When in doubt empty the magazine... - GMG760's Epistane Cycle

You should try making your own shakes GMG.Take some milk,oats,peanut butter,and whey,and blend the b!tches together with some ice cubes thrown in!Pretty good and much cheaper.Not to mention better for you.
 
pantera101 said:
You should try making your own shakes GMG.Take some milk,oats,peanut butter,and whey,and blend the b!tches together with some ice cubes thrown in!Pretty good and much cheaper.Not to mention better for you.
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I've tried these... The oats blow my stomach up like a balloon, and they are disgusting. To each his own I guess. If you dig it, then that's awesome. Milk also adds lactose, which I try to stay away from so I don't gas out my co-workers. That and you continually have a chocolate peanut butter shake... Zzzzzzz...

They are certainly cheaper, but I don't buy that they are better for you... I love the CytoSport products.
 
TimberLakers said:
They are certainly cheaper, but I don't buy that they are better for you... I love the CytoSport products.
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Have you read the ingredients for weight gainers?Home made will have much less sugar,often times less fat(they can be made with no fat),and the majority of the carbs are slow acting carbs.You can tweak them to your liking,and always for the better compared to store bought weight gainers.I can make one with more cals and protien than my old favorite weight gainer(more than cytogainer),with less sugar and fat.Theirs more to drink,but well worth it!
 
pantera101 said:
Have you read the ingredients for weight gainers?Home made will have much less sugar,often times less fat(they can be made with no fat),and the majority of the carbs are slow acting carbs.You can tweak them to your liking and always for the better compared to store bought weight gainers.
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Yeah, CytoGainer is not a bunch of crap though. 580 calories with water - No Sucrose, Fructose, or Aspartame - All Complex Carbs. 5g of fat. 28 bucks for 6 pounds.

I have no qualms with chugging a glass full of oats and whey, it just gets old... and really uncomfortable. Plus living in the city, its hard to keep fruits / milk / bananas on hand - which is the only way I really enjoy those homemade weight gain shakes. I do like the protein shakes I make, they are pretty awesome. I was thinking of trying WMStarch to see if that agrees with me better.

I'm all about the homemade stuff, and to tell you the truth, I'd much rather do it your way, just haven't found something that doesn't make my stomach bloat like an eithopian.
 
TimberLakers said:
Yeah, CytoGainer is not a bunch of crap though. 580 calories with water - No Sucrose, Fructose, or Aspartame - All Complex Carbs. 5g of fat. 28 bucks for 6 pounds.

I have no qualms with chugging a glass full of oats and whey, it just gets old... and really uncomfortable. Plus living in the city, its hard to keep fruits / milk / bananas on hand - which is the only way I really enjoy those homemade weight gain shakes. I do like the protein shakes I make, they are pretty awesome. I was thinking of trying WMStarch to see if that agrees with me better.

I'm all about the homemade stuff, and to tell you the truth, I'd much rather do it your way, just haven't found something that doesn't make my stomach bloat like an eithopian.
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I believe thats the oats and milk that get you bloated.The shakes I make are a whole blender.I only drink half at a time though,or take my time drinking it.The weight gainer I used was muscle juice.It's not for most,but I have a high metabolsim and a physical job.It's like 1,080 cals,150 carbs,16 fat,and 60 something grams of sugar.Don't quote me on those,it's been a while.If you can handle it without getting fat,it's the way to go.I would drink half a seving when I woke up,the other half after training,another half during or after work,and anorther half later that day.I tell myself that I may buy a weight gainer one day to give me a break from the same 'ole and from making the damn things,but I just can't do it.
 
pantera101 said:
I believe thats the oats and milk that get you bloated.The shakes I make are a whole blender.I only drink half at a time though,or take my time drinking it.The weight gainer I used was muscle juice.It's not for most,but I have a high metabolsim and a physical job.It's like 1,080 cals,150 carbs,16 fat,and 60 something grams of sugar.Don't quote me on those,it's been a while.If you can handle it without getting fat,it's the way to go.I would drink half a seving when I woke up,the other half after training,another half during or after work,and anorther half later that day.I tell myself that I may buy a weight gainer one day to give me a break from the same 'ole and from making the damn things,but I just can't do it.
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Just calc-ing that - looks like it had 84g of protein... Which puts it around 1 to 2 Carb to Protein. I'm trying to get a 1 to 1 split, so I'm modifying my Gainer a bit by adding some Whey when I make it. I really try to steer away from sugar, especially refined sugar. Not because of fat issues, but just the sugar crash. I used to have a crazy addition to candy.

If I can find a complex carb that agrees with me, I'll likely mix in shakes daily, then keep the gainer on hand for when I'm rushed for time (AM primarily). You ever try Waxy Maize?
 
TimberLakers said:
You ever try Waxy Maize?
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Yes.I use ON's glyco maize.It's kinda chalky,but nothing too bad at all.Some of the carbs are digested extremely quickly,while others are slower.I'm not sure how slow though.You should try a scoop or maybe a hair more mixed with a pre wo drink.The pumps are greatness!Then it's supposively much better for postwo shakes compared to sugar or dextrose.
 
pantera101 said:
Yes.I use ON's glyco maize.It's kinda chalky,but nothing too bad at all.Some of the carbs are digested extremely quickly,while others are slower.I'm not sure how slow though.You should try a scoop or maybe a hair more mixed with a pre wo drink.The pumps are greatness!Then it's supposively much better for postwo shakes compared to sugar or dextrose.
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Yeah, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. NP has a generic 3.3 pounds for 12.50... Steal.
 
TimberLakers said:
Yeah, sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. NP has a generic 3.3 pounds for 12.50... Steal.
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It's not as much as it sounds lioke though just to let you know.It's very heavy stuff.The glyco maize comes in a 2lb protien tub weighing 4.4 lbs with 50 servings,and 35 grams of carbs per serving.So if you go pre and post with 1 scoop each.Then you got 25 days for ON's 4.4 lbs.Still a good deal,just letting you know.
 
BlackSheep said:
Let me guess.....first cycle?? It's OK I did that sht my first time too. You'll learn bro. I have the worlds best pct and support for $200 tops.......including the ph lol...
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Me too!! I learned early about buying the "name" brand sh*t that doesn't work any better than cheaper, bulk products. Do you guys know how much real gear could be bought for even just 3 hundo?!! WOW!! I buy a lot of my sh*t in bulk powders. Much more economical this way. I look at certain brand products and jot down their ingredients and go shopping in the bulk powders section of many websites. I'm a very frugal beeyatch!!:D THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
pantera101 said:
It's not as much as it sounds lioke though just to let you know.It's very heavy stuff.The glyco maize comes in a 2lb protien tub weighing 4.4 lbs with 50 servings,and 35 grams of carbs per serving.So if you go pre and post with 1 scoop each.Then you got 25 days for ON's 4.4 lbs.Still a good deal,just letting you know.
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Thats good info dude. Thanks.
 
pantera101 said:
It doesn't take much.The only extra things I started taking for my cycle is the havoc ofcourse,vit c,dhea,niacin,and taurine.PCT will be nolva and DTH.
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:goodpost: I really like seeing lists like this. There's no need for the "kitchen sink" mentality that is seen so often now. I see some people's lists looking like the grocery shopping list for a family of eight!! LOL Keep it simple, just get the sh*t you need. Most of this flashy add-on sh*t doesn't work to enough extent to justify the price!! Smart looking plan Pantera!!:clap2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
:goodpost: I really like seeing lists like this. There's no need for the "kitchen sink" mentality that is seen so often now. I see some people's lists looking like the grocery shopping list for a family of eight!! LOL Keep it simple, just get the sh*t you need. Most of this flashy add-on sh*t doesn't work to enough extent to justify the price!! Smart looking plan Pantera!!:clap2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Its rookie nerves... :sad:
 
thundergod said:
:goodpost: I really like seeing lists like this. There's no need for the "kitchen sink" mentality that is seen so often now. I see some people's lists looking like the grocery shopping list for a family of eight!! LOL Keep it simple, just get the sh*t you need. Most of this flashy add-on sh*t doesn't work to enough extent to justify the price!! Smart looking plan Pantera!!:clap2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Thank you!Just to clarify,I already take hawthorne berry and fish oil yr round.Thats all I would add to that list if not.I just upped the dose for the HB for the cycle and it's working nicely.
 
pantera101 said:
Thank you!Just to clarify,I already take hawthorne berry and fish oil yr round.Thats all I would add to that list if not.I just upped the dose for the HB for the cycle and it's working nicely.
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I knew you did! That's the reason I didn't mention them either. I was about to type in fish oil, then I realized, "Hell, I know Pantera takes that and Hawthorn Berries!":lol: Yeah, fish oil is a must have on my supplements list. I take 15 to 20 grams a day of it!! Great stuff!! I also take it and Hawthorn Berries all the time. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
I knew you did! That's the reason I didn't mention them either. I was about to type in fish oil, then I realized, "Hell, I know Pantera takes that and Hawthorn Berries!":lol: Yeah, fish oil is a must have on my supplements list. I take 15 to 20 grams a day of it!! Great stuff!! I also take it and Hawthorn Berries all the time. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I just started taking the hawthorn but the fish grease......I've been taking that sht since I started BBing. Top 3 on the supp list for sure, good stuff.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
yep, i have perpetual swanson fish stick burps too.
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Seriously.

Damn guys, have some fun on my thread while I was away? LMAO!

Well, I will definately hit one of you guys up to help me with my support supps next time around.

T-minus 7 days...
 
GMG760 said:
Seriously.

Damn guys, have some fun on my thread while I was away? LMAO!

Well, I will definately hit one of you guys up to help me with my support supps next time around.

T-minus 7 days...
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Any time slut....lol. You'll learn bro, I get all the sht I need ++ for under $200 every time and I get da goods too.
 
BlackSheep said:
Any time slut....lol. You'll learn bro, I get all the sht I need ++ for under $200 every time and I get da goods too.
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Who you calling a slut, slut? ;)

Actually after my B-day party last night, you might have reason to call me that... got pushed into my bedroom by 2 drunk girls and they proceeded to give me quite the birthday show...

Cheers to sluts. :D
 
GMG760 said:
Who you calling a slut, slut? ;)

Actually after my B-day party last night, you might have reason to call me that... got pushed into my bedroom by 2 drunk girls and they proceeded to give me quite the birthday show...

Cheers to sluts. :D
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Happy birthday, bro!!!

Yeah, I used to be in a band too. Good times!!
 
What up Sluts! Happy Belated Birthday GMG! You know Im the biggest slut in here tho.
 
metroba said:
What up Sluts! Happy Belated Birthday GMG! You know Im the biggest slut in here tho.
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Thanks bro! Ok, I'll take your word for it metroba, but you better have a good story for me by the end of this log, or the title is going back to timberlakers... cause until you called dibs on the title, I thought he was the odds on favorite! :thumbsup:
 
GMG760 said:
Thanks bro! Ok, I'll take your word for it metroba, but you better have a good story for me by the end of this log, or the title is going back to timberlakers... cause until you called dibs on the title, I thought he was the odds on favorite! :thumbsup:
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I am a pretty big slut. Make it rain *itches.
 
LESS THAN A WEEK!!!! 6 days and counting!

BRING THE RAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!

Time to go get ill with my leg workout. Gotsta listen to some DJ Khaled first so I can get my mind right...
 
GMG760 said:
Thanks bro! Ok, I'll take your word for it metroba, but you better have a good story for me by the end of this log, or the title is going back to timberlakers... cause until you called dibs on the title, I thought he was the odds on favorite! :thumbsup:
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I don't want to get into too many details here, but I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. One of my best slut stories includes me and a girl hooking up at a club in cancun, and then really hooking up on the beach behind her hotel. oh, and me and her freind hooking up there too. um...and me and their other freind hooking up there too....all at the same time. But I digress...
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I don't want to get into too many details here, but I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. One of my best slut stories includes me and a girl hooking up at a club in cancun, and then really hooking up on the beach behind her hotel. oh, and me and her freind hooking up there too. um...and me and their other freind hooking up there too....all at the same time. But I digress...
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My hero!! :box: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I don't want to get into too many details here, but I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. One of my best slut stories includes me and a girl hooking up at a club in cancun, and then really hooking up on the beach behind her hotel. oh, and me and her freind hooking up there too. um...and me and their other freind hooking up there too....all at the same time. But I digress...
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Wow thats some penthouse sh1t right there! I applaud you sir! :clap2:
 
ThisGuy2 said:
In all fairness, I was younger and irresponsible. I can deal with not being young anymore, but ah to be irresponsible again!
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There is absolutely nothing irresponsible about that.

Let's just hope that got committed to the "spank bank" permenantly.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
I don't want to get into too many details here, but I'd like to throw my hat in the ring. One of my best slut stories includes me and a girl hooking up at a club in cancun, and then really hooking up on the beach behind her hotel. oh, and me and her freind hooking up there too. um...and me and their other freind hooking up there too....all at the same time. But I digress...
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Wait, you had a foursome?! WOW. I would get overwhelmed, I'd still do my damnedest to get 'em all done!
 
So ok, the line has been drawn by the guy... the contest of the thread is: Who is the sluttiest AM member out here? If you got a better story than the guy's... well, you a slut and you deserve the title! :D
 
Lets see... two come to mind. One for consideration was a threeway with 2 girls when I was 17. (radio station groupies)

The other would be NYE of 2005... Hooking up with two best friends in my two room apartment. The one on my couch knew and said to keep it quiet, and the one in my room had no clue... This is after getting into a bar fight (just wanted to add that in)...
 
TimberLakers said:
Lets see... two come to mind. One for consideration was a threeway with 2 girls when I was 17. (radio station groupies)

The other would be NYE of 2005... Hooking up with two best friends in my two room apartment. The one on my couch knew and said to keep it quiet, and the one in my room had no clue... This is after getting into a bar fight (just wanted to add that in)...
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I have a feeling I just opened a can of worms... Awesome!
 
GMG760 said:
Groupie Love! It's good to be in a band. It's really good to be in a band.:afro:
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Sh1t, I knew I chose the wrong job!

no groupie love for me, but there are some chicks that like computer nerds...but those chicks don't put out:sad:
 
Oh I got some stories!But they're only stories..........:sad:I'm such a looser!Thats why I'm into bb'ing,to make up for all my shortcommings...........Just as they say:sad:OK!I lost my virginity at 19(LOOSER!!!)to a 37 cougar.Do I get any credit for that?
 
pantera101 said:
Oh I got some stories!But they're only stories..........:sad:I'm such a looser!Thats why I'm into bb'ing,to make up for all my shortcommings...........Just as they say:sad:OK!I lost my virginity at 19(LOOSER!!!)to a 37 cougar.Do I get any credit for that?
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Only if she paid for dinner.
 
Pantera, loosing your virginity to a cougar...Nice! I hope she was hot. How did you bag an older lady? Was a friends mom? Please say yes!
 
metroba said:
Pantera, loosing your virginity to a cougar...Nice! I hope she was hot. How did you bag an older lady? Was a friends mom? Please say yes!
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I'm not gonna lie and say she was drop dead hot,but definately doable.:lol:I thought that before I knew her because she lived by me so I seen her around before I ever met her and I thought to myself,I would if I could!Then next thing I know it's I can!Then it's I did!!!!!!:woohoo:She was a friend of my aunts,so close.And how it happened,alcahol man!Lots of alcahol got it going,but it went on for a little while afterwards.
 
delsolrob said:
clomid gets your junk working faster, but it can have some nasty emotional sides...erase your ex's phone number before you take clomid and get rid of all the old pictures! otherwise, wou should stock up on some tissue!
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HAHAHA, bro, I know it's an old post, but that's hilarious, but I stand behind ya in that department 100% ! I used clomid once only, as a PCT back in the day, and I must say, I was a pu$$y and emotionally a wreck !
 
GMG, just be sure to listen to your body. I got bursitis in my right shoulder during my 2 week Havoc blast and it's still getting in my way, 3 weeks after.
 
arizonanewbie said:
GMG, just be sure to listen to your body. I got bursitis in my right shoulder during my 2 week Havoc blast and it's still getting in my way, 3 weeks after.
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Hey bro, are you still doing those 2 week blasts? THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
arizonanewbie said:
GMG, just be sure to listen to your body. I got bursitis in my right shoulder during my 2 week Havoc blast and it's still getting in my way, 3 weeks after.
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Thanks dood, I definately will be keeping in tune with what my body is telling me on cycle.
 
arizonanewbie said:
GMG, just be sure to listen to your body. I got bursitis in my right shoulder during my 2 week Havoc blast and it's still getting in my way, 3 weeks after.
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We all have a plan, or program, but all that really is, is an outline or rough draft, life is about change always allow for flexibility in your plan of attack, BUT.....

if you see a gap in their defenses you better bust dat ass!!!!!!!!!!LMAO
 
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