Havoc Non-log Notepad for my cycle.

Happy B-DAY Z!!

Don't visit too many brothels in vegas now ya here!
 
im back , lost alot of money, got laid and worst i got my heart broken. :( i had a great time till my heart got broken in to small little pieces then grinded to dust
 
Zombie said:
im back , lost alot of money, got laid and worst i got my heart broken. :( i had a great time till my heart got broken in to small little pieces then grinded to dust
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The ol' broken heart... Women say men have no emotions and no feelings but they don't realize we don't fcuk them like they do to us. I can go all into details with this dude but only TIME can heal your pain or I have come up with a better solution, find a really hot chick to hang out with often, you'll see how fast your heart will heal.
 
my condolences. take some havoc and take it out in the gym that or next time throw in a little donkey punch hahah..jk...but seriously
 
thanks guys. i know it was a bad idea to stay at my ex gf place, in a birght part sex was really good, but i felt used and like ****. i really loved her and still do, she still loves me also but i ****ed up things really bad, but the only thing i can do is try to get over it.

As an update well i think i over did the alcohol lol i been peeing dark orange since sunday, started pct yesterday, my libido hasnt been affected also i noticed this last few days that i could easy put peter north to shame if you know what i mean ;). i fell sad cause of what happen but not like i would feel a few months ago. i didnt got in to drinking alot cause of that like i did on a few months ago, i drinked alot cause it was my bday and i was having a good time not cause of her.
 
Zombie said:
thanks guys. i know it was a bad idea to stay at my ex gf place, in a birght part sex was really good, but i felt used and like ****. i really loved her and still do, she still loves me also but i ****ed up things really bad, but the only thing i can do is try to get over it.

As an update well i think i over did the alcohol lol i been peeing dark orange since sunday, started pct yesterday, my libido hasnt been affected also i noticed this last few days that i could easy put peter north to shame if you know what i mean ;). i fell sad cause of what happen but not like i would feel a few months ago. i didnt got in to drinking alot cause of that like i did on a few months ago, i drinked alot cause it was my bday and i was having a good time not cause of her.
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Youll get threw it man. You got us here if ya need us. I struggled with a divorce recently reallllllllllllllllllllly bad. So I can feel for ya. Keep your head up. You know YOU DA MAN!!
 
metroba said:
Youll get threw it man. You got us here if ya need us. I struggled with a divorce recently reallllllllllllllllllllly bad. So I can feel for ya. Keep your head up. You know YOU DA MAN!!
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OMG divorce, nightmare of all nightmares. Where the court, the judge, everyone is against the MAN. A woman could have brutally murdered her husband and they'll still find some way to blame the poor bastard. Anyways I love woman and I am talking about the exceptionally bad woman but still, the world is unfair today for the male. A woman will walk into a marriage with nothing and come out of it a millionaire. Anyways still love woman but hate the bad ones :hammer:
 
today is second day of PCT i havent been to the gym in several days. mood has been a rollercoaster, i want to get my ass tomorrow to the gym, i didnt feel like going today.
 
i been on a emotional rollercoaster, i havent been to the gym in several days but im getting my ass to the gym today even if i have to drag my own ass there
 
crader said:
C'mon Z!!! Hit that gym, depression can take your whole life under if you don't fight for it!
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i hit rock bottom yesterday, thats what made me decide to quit being a cry baby, i talked with my ex gf she told me about this dude shes being going out with that would like to get married with her so i said **** it, i have humiliated my self enouf as it is. No need to keep doing it, so its time for a bigger meaner SOB Zombie :numbered: . it hurts but theres nothing i can do about it. Back to the pimpin games:drunk:
 
Is this because of what happened with your Ex or from Havoc? both?

Edit: sorry you're haven a rough time.
 
i dont know, maybe is being off havoc and being on torem and the ex gf thing , my world is about to collapse on me right now. only thing i can do is smile and wait till it falls down to get up.
 
Zombie said:
i dont know, maybe is being off havoc and being on torem and the ex gf thing , my world is about to collapse on me right now. only thing i can do is smile and wait till it falls down to get up.
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Man that really sucks. You got us here if ya need someone to talk to. I cant stand to see one of my AM bros down.

Edit: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Zombie again.
 
thanks, i have found more support here at AM that with my friends that i can actually see and talk to in real life.
 
Look at it this way Z man if she was sleeping with you but supposedly wanting to marry someone else then she is playing him as well. Not what you want or deserve !
 
the times i dosed DHEA with 3ml Sesamin or 2gr fish oil with havoc.


taurine i dosed after noon an preworkout.
 
Zombie, the times when I get down I find that it helps to get really obsessively busy with something else. It keeps the mind occupied while the heart starts to heal. Also I try to focus on small things in my life that make me glad - my cats, garlicky food, talking to my folks on the phone...
 
Ok so i got all the great stuff that everyone has been talking about. My cycle is going to look like this. Mind you I workout 4 times a week pretty much around the same time, between 3:30pm - 4:30 pm

*Cycle Support twice a day (morning and night)
*Muti - morning with breakfast
*DHEA - one hour before workout with Havoc
*Taurine - 30 min before workout
*Gut Health - Evening sometime post workout

PCT

*So far i am planning on still running the cycle support and going to take Novladex

Give me your feedback....Thanks!
 
DanielSon said:
Ok so i got all the great stuff that everyone has been talking about. My cycle is going to look like this. Mind you I workout 4 times a week pretty much around the same time, between 3:30pm - 4:30 pm

*Cycle Support twice a day (morning and night)
*Muti - morning with breakfast
*DHEA - one hour before workout with Havoc
*Taurine - 30 min before workout
*Gut Health - Evening sometime post workout

PCT

*So far i am planning on still running the cycle support and going to take Novladex

Give me your feedback....Thanks!
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Make a thread with "Havoc cycle" you'll get more responses plus this thread is already a Cycle thread so....
 
Zombie said:
i forgot to add that im going to be adding recreate next week
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I plan on running recreate in my pc too. Looking foward to seeing what it does for you.
 
crader said:
How are you doing Z?
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im still alive lol, yesterday i felt like **** it seems i got the flu or some other bug that feel like that, its been a while sinc ei had a headache and fever and i had them yesterday. yesterday i started to megadose Gut health (6 caps) and 6 gr vit c and some vit e to get my defense up, and on the gf thing well im seing things more clear i think its time too move on. i still love her with all my heart but its not worth it being like this for somene that doesnt love me back the same way.
 
i just came from the gym, im tired, but i liked it :D i lost 1.5 pounds in the 13 days i was absent from the gym and drinking and bot eating like i should its not that bad. maybe if i had keep thing on check i would had gained even more, but i still have 3 weeks more of pct that i can still gain more :D
 
Zombie said:
i just came from the gym, im tired, but i liked it :D i lost 1.5 pounds in the 13 days i was absent from the gym and drinking and bot eating like i should its not that bad. maybe if i had keep thing on check i would had gained even more, but i still have 3 weeks more of pct that i can still gain more :D
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nice, I'm glad people are gaining on PCT. Did you take any DHEA on this cycle? I heard some people do it and I don't know why if it's not suppose to be consumed by people under 35?
 
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AlexParty said:
nice, I'm glad people are gaining on PCT. Did you take any DHEA on this cycle? I heard some people do it and I don't know why if it's not suppose to be consumed by people under 35?
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Today is my last day taking Epidrol which is essentially the same as havoc. I gained 23 pounds in 4 weeks. I still have not gotten any side effects, and my strength gains are great. The only bad thing is that I felt like I was fighting a cold on and off throughout the cycle, and I had just gotten over pneumonia prior to starting the cycle. Apparently, it is pretty common to get sick on cycle due to the increase of toxins in the body. Good luck to everyone and let me know if you have any questions that I could help ya with.

I used to be a personal trainer with a great cert. and advanced training. Also, I have experienced with the real goods as well as a couple of the pro hormones.

Peace
 
AlexParty said:
nice, I'm glad people are gaining on PCT. Did you take any DHEA on this cycle? I heard some people do it and I don't know why if it's not suppose to be consumed by people under 35?
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i took DHEA several times but it made me breakout, so i didnt used it alot just a few days i been thinking on next week using 100mg then ramp down or maybe not since im going to be using recreate aswell.

my next cycle im going to make sure im not going out with anyone, dealing with pct and girls is not a good idea unless you got a solid steady relationship where she understands about being on cycle.


I woulld really like to thanks the guys here in this thread and at the shoutbox, i know you guys are tired of me saying stupid **** that i miss her and love her but soon im going to be over that.(i hope)_
 
Papa T said:
Today is my last day taking Epidrol which is essentially the same as havoc. I gained 23 pounds in 4 weeks. I still have not gotten any side effects, and my strength gains are great. The only bad thing is that I felt like I was fighting a cold on and off throughout the cycle, and I had just gotten over pneumonia prior to starting the cycle. Apparently, it is pretty common to get sick on cycle due to the increase of toxins in the body. Good luck to everyone and let me know if you have any questions that I could help ya with.

I used to be a personal trainer with a great cert. and advanced training. Also, I have experienced with the real goods as well as a couple of the pro hormones.

Peace
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nice gains, i wish i had similar results, maybe if i had done a more responsible cycle and taken care more and ignored the girls issues i would had got better gains. takin in consideration what i lost my gains seem solid, stength is down mostly cause i been almost 2 weeks off the gym till yesterday and diet has been crap. im going to get my act together and give m y best in whats left of this pct
 
Zombie said:
i took DHEA several times but it made me breakout, so i didnt used it alot just a few days i been thinking on next week using 100mg then ramp down or maybe not since im going to be using recreate aswell.

my next cycle im going to make sure im not going out with anyone, dealing with pct and girls is not a good idea unless you got a solid steady relationship where she understands about being on cycle.


I woulld really like to thanks the guys here in this thread and at the shoutbox, i know you guys are tired of me saying stupid **** that i miss her and love her but soon im going to be over that.(i hope)_
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If this was a forum full of chicks they'd be tired of hearing it because they don't understand the pain, guys do, we've all been there and we're here to help, that's what this support forum is for. When no one else listens you, you have anabolic minds.
 
i took this pic yesterday it looks kind of weird this is with my newphone i look really fat. im goign to try an get a better one
 

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AlexParty said:
If this was a forum full of chicks they'd be tired of hearing it because they don't understand the pain, guys do, we've all been there and we're here to help, that's what this support forum is for. When no one else listens you, you have anabolic minds.
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You are so far off on that one. We do know what its like it happens to everyone, male or female.

Z- You know I'll always listen if you want to talk about her. You have my cell.. If you aren't ready to stop talking yet then don't, just don't let it consume you. Pain is something you can't shut off because you want to be done with it. I wish it worked that way. But you know me pretty well, I cry on yours you on mine...Hope to meet up with you at the O!
 
crader said:
You are so far off on that one. We do know what its like it happens to everyone, male or female.

Z- You know I'll always listen if you want to talk about her. You have my cell.. If you aren't ready to stop talking yet then don't, just don't let it consume you. Pain is something you can't shut off because you want to be done with it. I wish it worked that way. But you know me pretty well, I cry on yours you on mine...Hope to meet up with you at the O!
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thanks i really apreciate that, it was a really bad time to get in to this kind of issues with her. it was like a conspiracy , work has been really slow, customers dont want to pay, ex gf well you know the story, other personal issues that are screwing with me, but things are going to get better. i humiliated my self for the last time to a girl. Live and learn.
But i really do apreciate your words and your support as well as the other guys support and comments.
 
crader said:
You are so far off on that one. We do know what its like it happens to everyone, male or female.

Z- You know I'll always listen if you want to talk about her. You have my cell.. If you aren't ready to stop talking yet then don't, just don't let it consume you. Pain is something you can't shut off because you want to be done with it. I wish it worked that way. But you know me pretty well, I cry on yours you on mine...Hope to meet up with you at the O!
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Crader you're a cool chick and I'm sure you spared a lot of guys from pain but women do 80% of the rejecting in this world. Yeah of course they understand pain, but our pain is full of rejection, that's what I mean. A guy will go up to a girl he likes, asks her out and might get rejected. The pain of rejection in all aspects from asking out to a break up is really painful. I don't know where I read this but women do the dumping most of the time. That is why you guys are so dangerous :) . My comment by the way was not intended to sound insulting to women because, as you know, I love women :)
 
Well see its very similar for women, if you are a nice chick they guys walk all over you. You get cheated on and rejected just the same. I think its hard to see it from the other sex's perspective. But really its the same. I try to be honest and upfront because I've been hurt and don't want to do the same. But you have a choice stop vbeing nice and get hurt a bunch more or do the right thing, get hurt along the way but eventually find the right person. Its in who you want to be.
 
well i just have to say that i neglected this girl. she would drive 3 hrs just to see me then drive back another 3 hrs sometimes. I was a real ass hole, i had other problems and i didnt count her in or let her help me at that time. Shes really sweet with kids and caring gf. she took really good care of me while we were ok. But i ****ed things up by being distant and i stoped calling her she called me and told her i was busy and that kind of stuff that pushed her away. She feels really bad cause one time we were with her friends one asked me if i would marry her and i just said no, she cried cause i said that. Actually i dont know why im crying and making abig deal about this, if i had been the boyfriend she deservs this owulnt be happening. Its my fault shagave 110% for this relationship to work and i just stood there :(
 
Sounds like she loved you. You can't love someone like that and it just vanish like that. Maybe you can tell her how you feel and that you realise you were wrong. Try to fix it. Maybe get a place together so its not a drain on the two of you.
 
crader said:
Sounds like she loved you. You can't love someone like that and it just vanish like that. Maybe you can tell her how you feel and that you realise you were wrong. Try to fix it. Maybe get a place together so its not a drain on the two of you.
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i did told her how much i love her, first time i cried infront of a girl in my whole life, i have never told someone i love her and feel pain. i actuallyy felt that it hurt saying i love you. (BTW i havent taken my TOREM dose already) But she said that she got tired of being in that situation crying almost everynight because of me, cause i didnt went to visit, cause i didnt answerd the phone , cause i was rude. Now that she tells me and i see it thru her prespective i feel really bad and sorry cause i know that any of the girls i have dated none of them have cared about me that much, maybe shes better off with this other guy she met but i cant let her go that easy cause of what he wen thru. Usually im the guy that breaks up and thats it, i see the girl i can say hi no hard feeling no nothing but with this one is different. Thats what i get for being an ass. I would like to advice to others that if you love some one tell them, dont be afraid, i was afraid of commintment and put a wall and created alot of distance between the person i have loved more the most .
 
for what she told me this guy really cares about her,and she cares about him. and shes not willing to let him go to go back with me. i suck donkey balls
 
Anyone taking or that has taken 6 OXO in PCT? The bottle suggests taking the dosage at night. I was thinking about breaking up the dosage throughout the day. Effective? Any input/advise is greatly appreciated.
 
Zombie said:
I would like to advice to others that if you love some one tell them, dont be afraid, i was afraid of commintment and put a wall and created alot of distance between the person i have loved more the most .
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so long as you remember this going forwards, you'll be fine. You'll find someone else sooner or later and have it work so long as you keep this in mind
 
Zombie said:
its a crappy motorola i880 , i have had comments regarding my neck. i dont really like to workout my traps, . if i do i dont want my neck to disapear :(
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Maybe the recreate in your pct will bring out your neck more.

edit: btw lookin hyuuuge!
 
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