So Epi and SD damage the liver differently?

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Just out of curiosity, do all methyls damage the liver in the same way? The question being would alternating weeks of epi and Superdrol allow the liver the chance to repair some of the damage done by one, while being damaged in a different way by the other?

I'm guessing that no one really knows the answer to this, but thought that I'd throw it out there, anyway.
 
Well "supposedly" running 2 methyls at the same time is supposed to be worse than running just one.

I think the only way you'd know is to get your values checked and compare them.
 
I have been doing 10mgs of superdrol for 10days now.I'm up 8lbs and arms,legs,and calves are up a 1/4".I feel completely fine too.I believe the problem with superdrol is that people need to stop going to 20.They are overdosing with not much if any more positive sides.
 
u may be right but I have never gotten any gains out of sd and it was the only one that really fked with my liver, so I gave away my sd stash, i would get weird pains all over my body from that poison now I pretty much mess with pp epi mtrn, I have a but load of dbol in powder but that shyt always makes my little bit of gyno flare da fk up, I've been givin that away too
 
pantera101 said:
I have been doing 10mgs of superdrol for 10days now.I'm up 8lbs and arms,legs,and calves are up a 1/4".I feel completely fine too.I believe the problem with superdrol is that people need to stop going to 20.They are overdosing with not much if any more positive sides.
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I've always wondered if 10 mg would do the trick. That is good news man. I have never tried SD but now maybe I will. Let us know how it goes pantera.
BigNemo said:
u may be right but I have never gotten any gains out of sd and it was the only one that really fked with my liver, so I gave away my sd stash, i would get weird pains all over my body from that poison now I pretty much mess with pp epi mtrn, I have a but load of dbol in powder but that shyt always makes my little bit of gyno flare da fk up, I've been givin that away too
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No gains from SD? And I'll take some dbol off your hands. Just kidding. But seriously. :)
 
Yes and no.


Methylated orals go through metabolic metabolism via CPY4503a4.

each compound has its own unique toxicity associated with it, which is determined by the a:a ratio.
 
mattikus said:
I've always wondered if 10 mg would do the trick. That is good news man. I have never tried SD but now maybe I will. Let us know how it goes pantera.
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I have a log "pantera is far beyond driven!!!"Others have responded well to 10/10/10 too.Some who are heavier than me even.Aquanutz mentions hi experiences in the beginning of my log.He mentioned them a little better in another one too.So i'll just tell you cause I don't remember where.

He said he has done three cycles of superdrol.One at 10/10/20/20 with epistane pulsed on wo days.Then two at 10/10/10 superdrol only.He said his gains from the 10/10/10 were almost as good as the 10/10/20/20 with epistane pulsed.
 
ReaperX said:
Methylated orals go through metabolic metabolism via CPY4503a4.
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Really?!? Where did you find that? I thought 17aa avoided intestinal metabolism. Please post your resource.
 
I made a mistake. I mis-posted.

Dr. H:

'It is not the PH, but the metabolites, usually of either the mono- or di-demethylated products (which are thought to be the active components) formed via cytochrome P450 (CYP) 3A4-catalyzed reactions, and to a lesser extent hydroxylated compounds. The drug undergoes continued hepatic metabolism, now 2nd pass (1st pass was the CYP transformation) and enterohepatic circulation to be excreted in the feces (predominantly).'
 
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