Non-methylated P-Plex + 11-oxo = 3AD?

Daminals

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Dis one really baffles me. When a compound 'invented as' or introduced to da anabolic world as a methyl dis means it has little to no oral bioavailability. So - non methyl phera which's maybe like taken 0.1mg of real phera (placebo) plus 11-oxo whitch we all now is worthless unless tryin to shed a little fat = not worth da hype imho. Especially the price, what a joke. What gives? Den the absurb claims of:
"(3AD) has been shown to cause great gains in mass and strength"
? 1st of all dis has been shown where? Da logs just started a week ago if dat. 2ndly now wit da given chemicals in 3ad how can great mass an strength happen from a non biavailable & 11-oxo? Seems like lately rule of thumb be da more hype somthin has - the weaker da product.
 
Hahah hilarious. This IS unmethylated phera with an acetate ester attached to it. This is why all of the testers have to take it with fats and also im way more then a week into this.

There is also no adrenosterone its Androsterone which converts to stanolone, a precursor to DHT. This supp isnt useless. On the pricey side? A little bit, but its unmethylated and at the correct dosage and usage it could be a nice weapon in the war against genetics. :head:
 
its unmethylated phera and LG's mmv2?

so is the unmethylated phera called desoxytestosterone? like dmt without the m?
 
Interesting shizzle yo. But the point in regards to the Phera is interesting - AAS are typically only methyated because they have no absortion or use otherwise. I'm curious to see if the body actually does anything with it. And as for the other active hormone, Androsterone, it can stimulate the GABA receptors in the brain. Combine that with 3ad's picamilon which affects GABA too and it seems like you might get a nasty psychological withdrawal after you stop dosing 3ad like restlessness, anxiety, shakes? I've heard of people getting bad withdrawals just from picamilon alone. May have to add valium or xanax for PCT :sick:
 
Interesting shizzle yo. But the point in regards to the Phera is interesting - AAS are typically only methyated because they have no absortion or use otherwise. I'm curious to see if the body actually does anything with it. And as for the other active hormone, Androsterone, it can stimulate the GABA receptors in the brain. Combine that with 3ad's picamilon which affects GABA too and it seems like you might get a nasty psychological withdrawal after you stop dosing 3ad like restlessness, anxiety, shakes? I've heard of people getting bad withdrawals just from picamilon alone. May have to add valium or xanax for PCT :sick:


I cant speak for picamillon but i HAVE used androsterones with absolutely no problems in PCT whatsoever. Also the unmethylated phera has an acetate ester attached to it so when eaten with atleast 20gs of fats absorbtion should be much better, throw in some DHB and some bioperine u should be good.
 
And the most sides/$ as well. :head::dance:

At 10mg's the gains are good and sides are way low.Everyone wants to bump that sh!t up to the "max" dose instead of a succesful low dose.More is always better as you're feeling half dead with cramps and a back pump huh?
 
At 10mg's the gains are good and sides are way low.Everyone wants to bump that sh!t up to the "max" dose instead of a succesful low dose.More is always better as you're feeling half dead with cramps and a back pump huh?

Hahah yea i guess so. For me 20-30mgs does nill for me 40mgs is my sweet spot, so i usualy never run SD unless part of a stack where i can run it at 10-20mgs to enjoy the small little boost it gives...naawwmmeaann
 
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Hi, i started taking sustanon250 about 6 week ago. Ive never used it before. The other night i caught some guys breaking into my car, I thought now was my chance so i flexed up and went outside expecting the sustanon to take over. I ended up getting my arse kicked. What is going on? I thought steroids make you able to fight??
No one could have possibly said that really, eh???

Lmmmmmmaaaooooooooooooo
S!ht, i got a headache.....
 
Dis one really baffles me. When a compound 'invented as' or introduced to da anabolic world as a methyl dis means it has little to no oral bioavailability. So - non methyl phera which's maybe like taken 0.1mg of real phera (placebo) plus 11-oxo whitch we all now is worthless unless tryin to shed a little fat = not worth da hype imho. Especially the price, what a joke. What gives? Den the absurb claims of: ? 1st of all dis has been shown where? Da logs just started a week ago if dat. 2ndly now wit da given chemicals in 3ad how can great mass an strength happen from a non biavailable & 11-oxo? Seems like lately rule of thumb be da more hype somthin has - the weaker da product.
The new 3-AD has nothing to do with 11-oxo. Perhaps you confoosed androsterone wit adrenosterone. ;)
 
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