getswole
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Just cruise our local vitamin/supp store...they sell all kinda stuff w/ phenibut in it...prolly save ya some cash...same stuff,just read the labels
Mmmmm... I love Kava
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poopypants
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phenibut is the same stuff as what???? not neuro balance.....
getswole
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How do you figure?
1 tsp of neurobalance is basically 500mg of phenibut....
Please explain how you think otherwise?
Supposedly its a little faster acting than a capped powder pfenibut,but its exact same chem ingredient .....just claims to have an enhanced oral delivery seeing as how its a liquid and all...its phenibut..
4-amino-phenylbutyric acid HCL= Phenibut
SelfKnowledge
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I rather get the neuro balance because it seems to have all the benefits of phenibut without the side effects. This information is based purely on logs from both products.
getswole
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It just seemed to me you were looking for something to have a little fun with instead of drinking and smokin' weed and such,might I point out you pop a valium or xanax once on the weekend or something,helps alot,but all that kinda stuff aside,I've said this many times,and will say it many more....Sounds like you got a case of "I need a new set of big titties slappin' against my face
,when you get down and out,and need a pick me up,no drug any man ever created is better than a nice new big set of titties bouncing around within reach,oiled up helps a little tooseriously though,I guarantee if some super hot chick knocked on your door right now and said she was about to rock your world ,hottest chick you ever seen,you'd have a smile on your face for the next 2 weeks,now thats the cure for everything,I honestly feel if they could make a concentrated Pvssy extract it could cure cancer:twisted:,and of course world hunger too
,when you get down and out,and need a pick me up,no drug any man ever created is better than a nice new big set of titties bouncing around within reach,oiled up helps a little tooseriously though,I guarantee if some super hot chick knocked on your door right now and said she was about to rock your world ,hottest chick you ever seen,you'd have a smile on your face for the next 2 weeks,now thats the cure for everything,I honestly feel if they could make a concentrated Pvssy extract it could cure cancer:twisted:,and of course world hunger tooSelfKnowledge
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It just seemed to me you were looking for something to have a little fun with instead of drinking and smokin' weed and such,might I point out you pop a valium or xanax once on the weekend or something,helps alot,but all that kinda stuff aside,I've said this many times,and will say it many more....Sounds like you got a case of "I need a new set of big titties slappin' against my face
hahahaha you're absolutely right....I tried being with other people-but I just couldn't do it...I guess I turned into pussy mode since i've been with my ex (we're not "together"-but we are). My friend keeps telling me to take my nuts out of her purse....and I sadly can't say he's all wrong...:whip:
So until I take my nuts out of her purse...I need to get some neuro balance or keep dosing this kava.
getswole
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Isn't that the worst thing,you know the problem,its right in front of you,and you just can't seem to do what you know you should,and just keep the situation going,draggin it out as long as possible,Its like putting a recovering crack addict in a crack house,you just know how its gonna turn out.lol...Maybe you just need to hear it from a complete stranger on the internet..."Me"
...Kick that b1tch to the curb my man,she is draggin' you down,You might think its the best piece of pvssy in the world right now,but a yr from now when your bangin' a super model and look back on things,you'll be like WTF was wrong with me,why was I messin' w/ that buck toof' b1tch...lolWe've all done it,don't feel bad,its hard sometimes,but trust me ,apply yourself,make it a point to hit on at least one new chick everyday,and something good will happen,once your dating a few other chicks at once,all the sudden you will see the light,when your out,havin' a good time,all pumped,happy and stuff,then that chick calls your phone and starts b1tchin' and you realize,damn,this chick is a b1tch,wtf am I thinkin...I always liked this sayings:
An Ex is an "Ex" for a reason,never forget it..
Also never assume people can be anything except for exactly what they are,don't see the best in people,see the worst.
Thats the reality of it...
I came to the point where I basically when I met a chick,I would intentionally have 0% trust in her,assume the worst,and if she's better than that it will shine through,although alot of times there just b1tches,lol.
And heres another quick tip,if your chick has more dudes programmed in her cell phone than she does family members,than she's got to go,Thats something thats never worked for me,that whole "Guy friends" sh1t,FvCK THAT ....
its all good if your just hittin' it on the weekends,but if your thinkin' relationship,she's gotta go..
She may say he's just there for Moral support,but its more like "Oral" support if you catch my drift
Here's a shot of my chick,maybe it'll make ya feel better:
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Traps & Tits,now thats sexy
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SelfKnowledge
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getswole....You knew exactly what was going on in my situation...
Thanks for the advice bro...its exactly how you described. I'm gonna take your advice...we'll see how it goes.
Thanks for the advice bro...its exactly how you described. I'm gonna take your advice...we'll see how it goes.
getswole
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I can think of more than a few times i wish someone had given me that advice,OMG,think of it like this,your "ex" is the only thing stopping you from the next chapter in your life,find ya a girl who likes to hit the gym w/ ya,and stuff like that,and if you find it tough,just think HOW MUCH WORSE it would be if you had a kid with this chick',and that right there should make you realize,damn,what if I get this chick pregnant next wek by accident,then my life is Seriously screwed,you will never be rid of her BS then,Thats one thing I've learned as I've aged,I'll be 30 in a yr or so,and chicks can really drag you down,IF you let them,and that IF is key...I can't be around negative people anymore,it just pisses me off ,some people aren't happy with themselves,and they tend to drag the people around them down also,sometimes not even knowing it,somehow feeling better that making their problems into your problems does anybody any good,I tell ya,chicks are a dime a dozen,they're everyuwhere,I've met chicks doing everything imaginable,shopping,working,going out to eat,clubs,parks,on the lake,at gas stations,at red lights,driving down the interstate doing 120mph,lol...absolutely everywhere,the good ones you won't meet at a bar/club though honestly,but trust me ,soon as your single,its like girls can smell it or something,they start popping out of the woodwork left and right,you just have to keep an eye out,being single is so much fun,I honestly thought I'd always be single,intentionally,but finally i found a good one,I went through an awful lot of them too in the process,no complaints there either,but I can think of quite a few that drug me down,as long as you can see it and learn from it,it was all worth it,good or bad,sometimes knowing what you DON"T want IN a chick,is more important than knowing what you DO want....Good luck bro,keep us posted...Get your Swole' on...Be aggresive,go get them chicks,YOUR AN ALPHA WOLF!!!!!:twisted:Go club a chick and drag her by the hair back to ya Cave...:head:
,being single is so much fun,I honestly thought I'd always be single,intentionally,but finally i found a good one,I went through an awful lot of them too in the process,no complaints there either,but I can think of quite a few that drug me down,as long as you can see it and learn from it,it was all worth it,good or bad,sometimes knowing what you DON"T want IN a chick,is more important than knowing what you DO want....Good luck bro,keep us posted...Get your Swole' on...Be aggresive,go get them chicks,YOUR AN ALPHA WOLF!!!!!:twisted:Go club a chick and drag her by the hair back to ya Cave...:head:
SelfKnowledge
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brywal312
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Yes, It does numb quite a bit. I personally like the feeling quite a bit especially when mixing with high proof alcohol. It cuts down on the burn a bit. The best starting point IMHO is about 4 pea sized amounts. It is VERY likely you will need more than this to REALLY feel anything. Check out the erowid.com forum for really good deets. GLHF
rabican
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Yes, It does numb quite a bit. I personally like the feeling quite a bit especially when mixing with high proof alcohol. It cuts down on the burn a bit. The best starting point IMHO is about 4 pea sized amounts. It is VERY likely you will need more than this to REALLY feel anything. Check out the erowid.com forum for really good deets. GLHF
thanks man ill check out the site, i just got mine in the mail and tried it last night it wasnt bad, i used it with tension tamer tea and watchd a movie with the gf, i was reeeeallly relaxed and felt like i had a slight buzz/high it was nice (i did about 4 peas worth) ill have to experienment with diff ways of taking it and amounts...does anyone know if pills are better or worse?
brywal312
Member
The active which causes the desired effects of kava is called kavalactone. Its kind of like alcohol in that it really doesnt matter how it gets in you as long as it gets in you... The advantage with paste or root over pills is that you can get a good feel for the potency by the color and the strenth of the numbing effect. The pills on the other hand are generally of much less potency because the companies who make them can get away with grinding up the whole plant as opposed to just the root. Think of the difference (if you have been there) between MJ leaves and MJ sticks and stems....you get the picture. The next bit of kava I am going to try smoking...
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anabolicstate
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I was under the impression that Kava had not yet been proven to be safe for long-term use. There was a potential risk of severe liver injury (although rare) associated with the use of kava-containing dietary supplements. Hepatitis, cirrhosis & liver failure were in the picture too. That was back in 2002 though, I haven't heard of any updates regarding that warning put out by the FDA.
ProAnabolics
Member
the liver thing isn't true, at least from what i see online. on the first page of this thread they talk about that to. If i were to order a pound of kava how many times could i get a buzz, whats the standard dose to get relaxed? just dump the powder into a tea bag and drink it right? or just drink the powder?
anabolicstate
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Thanks for informing me, I found the information I needed.
Ashwaganda seems to work just as well for me though...
I'd be interested in seeing the report the ABC released regarding the Kava claims.
Ashwaganda seems to work just as well for me though...
Mo250
Member
ScienceDaily (Feb. 23, 2008) — Scientists have found new evidence, using innovative techniques, to support the growing body of literature that indicates kava may have a negative effect on the liver. Kava is a plant native to the South Pacific that has been used as a ceremonial beverage in the region for thousands of years, and, more recently, as a natural treatment for medical conditions such as anxiety. In recent years, serious concerns about the dangers of kava and the effects on the liver have resulted in regulatory agencies, such as the US Food and Drug Administration and Australia's Therapeutic Goods Administration, banning or restricting the sale of kava and kava products.
Originally from Fiji, where kava drinking is common, Professor Iqbal Ramzan, Dean of Pharmacy at the University of Sydney, Australia, had previously published articles on the adverse effects of kava, and wanted to investigate further the effects kava had on the liver.
Leading a team of researchers from the University of Sydney, Professor Ramzan spent one year investigating the cellular effects of kava on the liver. Kava has been used in ceremonies and for recreational and social purposes in the South Pacific since ancient times, much like alcohol, tea or coffee is in other societies today.
In the 1980s other medicinal uses for kava began to emerge and it was marketed in herbal form as a natural way to treat conditions such as anxiety, insomnia, tension and restlessness, particularly in Europe and North America.
More recently, evidence began to emerge about the adverse affect kava could have on the liver.
To test these theories, the University of Sydney study focused on the major kavalactone (the ingredient in kava believed to affect the liver) -- kavain -- and investigated the effects it had on the ultrastructure (or biological structure) of the liver.
This required the use of electron microscopes (which enable the examination of the interior of cells) provided by the Australian Key Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis at the University of Sydney under the direction of its Deputy Director, Professor Filip Braet.
The study found that following kavain treatment the liver tissue displayed an overall change in structure, including the narrowing of blood vessels, the constriction of blood vessel passages and the retraction of the cellular lining.
Interestingly, kavain also adversely affected certain cells which function in the destruction of foreign antigens (such as bacteria and viruses), which make up part of the body's immune system.
In other words, the kavain treatment disturbed the basic structure of the liver, consequently seriously impacting the normal functioning of the liver.
The results of the University of Sydney's study clearly support earlier literature observations on kava's adverse affects on the functioning of the liver in general.
However, additional investigations into the effects of other major kavalactones on the liver, as well as studies on whether the effects of kava are reversible, are urgently needed.
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Influence of kavain on hepatic ultrastructure.Fu S, Korkmaz E, Braet F, Ngo Q, Ramzan I.
Faculty of Pharmacy, The University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Australia. [email protected].
AIM: To investigate whether the major kavalactone kavain imposes adverse effects on the liver ultrastructure and function by affecting vascular and microvascular architecture and altering hepatocellular morphology. METHODS: Kavain solution (10 mug/mL or 43.5 mumol/L) was perfused for 2 h in isolated rat livers. After standard fixation and tissue preparation, the samples were examined by scanning electron microscopy (SEM), transmission electron microscopy (TEM), and light microscopy (LM). RESULTS: LM, SEM, and TEM examinations indicated kavain-treated rat livers (n = 4) displayed severe vascular and endothelial damage compared to control livers (n = 4). CONCLUSION: The data so far support the hypothesis that kavain induces adverse effects on liver; additional investigations with other kavalactones and their effects on liver are urgently needed.
PMID: 18203285 [PubMed - in process]
Originally from Fiji, where kava drinking is common, Professor Iqbal Ramzan, Dean of Pharmacy at the University of Sydney, Australia, had previously published articles on the adverse effects of kava, and wanted to investigate further the effects kava had on the liver.
Leading a team of researchers from the University of Sydney, Professor Ramzan spent one year investigating the cellular effects of kava on the liver. Kava has been used in ceremonies and for recreational and social purposes in the South Pacific since ancient times, much like alcohol, tea or coffee is in other societies today.
In the 1980s other medicinal uses for kava began to emerge and it was marketed in herbal form as a natural way to treat conditions such as anxiety, insomnia, tension and restlessness, particularly in Europe and North America.
More recently, evidence began to emerge about the adverse affect kava could have on the liver.
To test these theories, the University of Sydney study focused on the major kavalactone (the ingredient in kava believed to affect the liver) -- kavain -- and investigated the effects it had on the ultrastructure (or biological structure) of the liver.
This required the use of electron microscopes (which enable the examination of the interior of cells) provided by the Australian Key Centre for Microscopy and Microanalysis at the University of Sydney under the direction of its Deputy Director, Professor Filip Braet.
The study found that following kavain treatment the liver tissue displayed an overall change in structure, including the narrowing of blood vessels, the constriction of blood vessel passages and the retraction of the cellular lining.
Interestingly, kavain also adversely affected certain cells which function in the destruction of foreign antigens (such as bacteria and viruses), which make up part of the body's immune system.
In other words, the kavain treatment disturbed the basic structure of the liver, consequently seriously impacting the normal functioning of the liver.
The results of the University of Sydney's study clearly support earlier literature observations on kava's adverse affects on the functioning of the liver in general.
However, additional investigations into the effects of other major kavalactones on the liver, as well as studies on whether the effects of kava are reversible, are urgently needed.
==
Influence of kavain on hepatic ultrastructure.Fu S, Korkmaz E, Braet F, Ngo Q, Ramzan I.
Faculty of Pharmacy, The University of Sydney, NSW 2006, Australia. [email protected].
AIM: To investigate whether the major kavalactone kavain imposes adverse effects on the liver ultrastructure and function by affecting vascular and microvascular architecture and altering hepatocellular morphology. METHODS: Kavain solution (10 mug/mL or 43.5 mumol/L) was perfused for 2 h in isolated rat livers. After standard fixation and tissue preparation, the samples were examined by scanning electron microscopy (SEM), transmission electron microscopy (TEM), and light microscopy (LM). RESULTS: LM, SEM, and TEM examinations indicated kavain-treated rat livers (n = 4) displayed severe vascular and endothelial damage compared to control livers (n = 4). CONCLUSION: The data so far support the hypothesis that kavain induces adverse effects on liver; additional investigations with other kavalactones and their effects on liver are urgently needed.
PMID: 18203285 [PubMed - in process]
Bruth
Member
Sorry on the first regard I try to keep my smkoin to the absolute minimue. But I would imagine that the Druid Mood blend would be great as the formula is solid and the other blends as well, espically if you smoked some and drank some tea of similar blend at the same time.
There kava is on point and the Yerba Mate is a great deal $6 for a key, so far i have only tried the Argintine which is supposed to be the best. There customer service is fantastic though and which is more than anything why I recoomend any site I recommend (Nutra, TP, DPS, etc.)
GreenTempo
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Just ordered me some 84% extract capsules fro the link on the first page, looking forward to it.
Eneyman, if you're looking for a legal smoke that, IMHO, is even better than the real illeagal thing shoot me a PM.
Eneyman, if you're looking for a legal smoke that, IMHO, is even better than the real illeagal thing shoot me a PM.
GreenTempo
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Buzzing off some kava right now. Took four of the 84% capsules. Got a pretty nice, warm cozy feeling
TNASTYII
Active member
anyone in here tried kratom? im interested in kratom and kava and which one would be better/stronger. and im guessing that 3 forms are proven to work throughout this thread of kava. the plain root, the concentrate, and the paste. correct me if im wrong on that. im lookin to buy some soon
MentalTwitch
Well-known member
FROM THE DEAD!!!!
TTT!!
BUMP!!!
ok, so i got some kava and last night i was able to filter it n crap but it was very painstaking and time consuming(used coffee filter). I was only able to drink about 1/2 the dose( 2 tbsp) because i wasnt really in a good mood so didnt want to ruin the effects and it has an odd taste. Not horrid, but if i plugged my nose it went down very easy. And i have a high tolerance for garbage taste, (i.e. bulk Arginine)
I did however notice...
Numb tounge, so numb, i brushed my teeth a few minutes fter and couldnt taste much toothpaste...
numb throat for a few seconds.
poor taste
light headed/ eased a bit after about 10-15 minutes.
Next time i drink kava this weekend i will be doing 4 tbsp in mt protein shake, UN-filtered. I want to feel it.
Then there will be a day i walk around pretty much oblivious to things due to being out of town and wanting to relax...my day will go along these lines.
2-3pm - PEA at 500mg
4-5pm - GABA - 6g split evenly through out time.
6-7pm - Kava at 4-6tbsp in shake.
8pm-2am? - Drinking voldka and such(party at friends)
2-3am prolly some L-Dopa/GABA mix for sleep, unless im to fukced up and just decide to lay down and pass out. I hope my GF doesnt want sex that ngiht cause ill be tired as hell it sounds like.
sounds like a goo plan huh?
TTT!!
BUMP!!!
ok, so i got some kava and last night i was able to filter it n crap but it was very painstaking and time consuming(used coffee filter). I was only able to drink about 1/2 the dose( 2 tbsp) because i wasnt really in a good mood so didnt want to ruin the effects and it has an odd taste. Not horrid, but if i plugged my nose it went down very easy. And i have a high tolerance for garbage taste, (i.e. bulk Arginine)
I did however notice...
Numb tounge, so numb, i brushed my teeth a few minutes fter and couldnt taste much toothpaste...
numb throat for a few seconds.
poor taste
light headed/ eased a bit after about 10-15 minutes.
Next time i drink kava this weekend i will be doing 4 tbsp in mt protein shake, UN-filtered. I want to feel it.
Then there will be a day i walk around pretty much oblivious to things due to being out of town and wanting to relax...my day will go along these lines.
2-3pm - PEA at 500mg
4-5pm - GABA - 6g split evenly through out time.
6-7pm - Kava at 4-6tbsp in shake.
8pm-2am? - Drinking voldka and such(party at friends)
2-3am prolly some L-Dopa/GABA mix for sleep, unless im to fukced up and just decide to lay down and pass out. I hope my GF doesnt want sex that ngiht cause ill be tired as hell it sounds like.
sounds like a goo plan huh?
bryan4980
Member
You should also try Lions Tail, it is pretty mild but you can grow it yourself it even does fine indoors. I may have try adding some to my next shake. It has a minty lemony flavor so that mixed with Cake batter may be a little weird.
Tyler1
Member
If you drink enough kava to get a buzz you're going to get a headache that will border on the line of insanity, Believe me I tried it enough times, and the last time I found out actually how much you have to drink, it's a ton, by that time your so fricken sick from it there is no point. I'd compare it to getting wasted off hard liwuor, and getting stumbly without the relaxed drunk feeling.
When I heard the Poly's and other pacific trribes warned of drinking to much and the ground will jump up and meet you, I thought could be fun, not so. After enough tries I'd skip the kava.
MentalTwitch
Well-known member
oh yea. I wont be slamming it. itll be sipped over a 1-2 hour period and once i feel good enough i may stop. Split it into 2 tbsp servings. I know it increases the effects of alcohol. Maybe ill just do the 2 tbsp and then mix it inlater in the night if need be.
Yea i saw that saying to i thought it was funny.
soultrain
Member
A First Time Kava Experience
09:00pm - Mixed 4 tablespoons of root powder (bought from the Kona farm) into 18 oz of ice cold water. Blended thoroughly for 5 minutes in the blender, then let sit in the refridgerator for 15 minutes. Removed from fridge and blended one extra minute.
09:20pm - Chugged entire mixture in less than 30 seconds. The taste: a dirt sammich could not have tasted worse. There was a slight tingly sensation on my tongue as well as a bit of numbness. I had hoped for more (as I've heard this is an indicator of potency), but I assumed I just drank it so fast that most of it hit the back of my throat instead of my tongue.
09:45pm - Did not feel anything at this point.
10:15pm - Still did not feel anything, just had some nasty earthy burps.
10:45pm - Gave up and went to bed with a belly-ache. Tossed and turned for an hour before I was able to finally drift off to sleep.
Since I did not strain the mixure after blending, I half-expected to wake up this morning with an ass-blast, but thankfully that did not happen.
I am not discouraged though. It doesn't always have an effect the first time so I will try again tonight to see if I feel something.
09:00pm - Mixed 4 tablespoons of root powder (bought from the Kona farm) into 18 oz of ice cold water. Blended thoroughly for 5 minutes in the blender, then let sit in the refridgerator for 15 minutes. Removed from fridge and blended one extra minute.
09:20pm - Chugged entire mixture in less than 30 seconds. The taste: a dirt sammich could not have tasted worse. There was a slight tingly sensation on my tongue as well as a bit of numbness. I had hoped for more (as I've heard this is an indicator of potency), but I assumed I just drank it so fast that most of it hit the back of my throat instead of my tongue.
09:45pm - Did not feel anything at this point.
10:15pm - Still did not feel anything, just had some nasty earthy burps.
10:45pm - Gave up and went to bed with a belly-ache. Tossed and turned for an hour before I was able to finally drift off to sleep.
Since I did not strain the mixure after blending, I half-expected to wake up this morning with an ass-blast, but thankfully that did not happen.
I am not discouraged though. It doesn't always have an effect the first time so I will try again tonight to see if I feel something.
GotTest
Active member
These are not the typical effects I experience at all.
I think you guys are using a poor source for root.
TIPS:
1) Find a good source.
2) Blend the hell out of root
3) Use a "fat" based liquid like coconut milk. Kava is a lactone and will NOT dissolve in water very well.
4) Add lecithin to blender
5) Use paint strainer for filter NOT coffee filters.
6) Drink slowly and enjoy the numbness. This ain't whiskey shots...
7) If you can't handle the taste. Go micronized.
I think you guys are using a poor source for root.
TIPS:
1) Find a good source.
2) Blend the hell out of root
3) Use a "fat" based liquid like coconut milk. Kava is a lactone and will NOT dissolve in water very well.
4) Add lecithin to blender
5) Use paint strainer for filter NOT coffee filters.
6) Drink slowly and enjoy the numbness. This ain't whiskey shots...
7) If you can't handle the taste. Go micronized.
heebs10
Well-known member
i see that GotTest says not to use a coffee filter but i had a random idea, just wondering if its dumb or not....anyways, since some people make a tea with it, and i guess it needs to be filtered, what if i just dumped a few table spoons of the powdered root into a coffee filter and then brewed it in my coffee pot? would that not work correctly or is that a dumb idea? i guess im also a little confused about the filtering/bleeding of the powdered root.. thanks for any responses
soultrain
Member
You should not boil kava. It destroys the kavalactones and renders the product useless.
I bought mine from the suggested site on the first page of this thread. It appears to be a very high quality product as most other users here have had good success with it.
I will try using the coconut milk. At the very least it can't hurt the taste. However, since I'm injesting the root and not straining it out, why should it matter if I use a fat soluble solvent or not? And where can I find lecithin?
I think it all boils down to my inexperience with it. I believe tonight I will feel more. I'm going to try 6 heaping tablespoons anyway.
I bought mine from the suggested site on the first page of this thread. It appears to be a very high quality product as most other users here have had good success with it.
I will try using the coconut milk. At the very least it can't hurt the taste. However, since I'm injesting the root and not straining it out, why should it matter if I use a fat soluble solvent or not? And where can I find lecithin?
I think it all boils down to my inexperience with it. I believe tonight I will feel more. I'm going to try 6 heaping tablespoons anyway.
bryan4980
Member
I haven't played with Kava before but my understanding was that the main actives are not water soluble, so it may not work. A lot of herbs are readily soluble in alcohol but few in water. Hope that helps.
GotTest
Active member
True!
Injesting the root. Damn...no wonder you had a stomach ache.
You'll get a better effect if you EXTRACT the active from the root and not take in all that fiberous material. The actives will still be "bound" into the fiber and not absorbed in the stomach.
The coffee filter is probably retaining your actives and not passing through the filter. Go to a paint store/Home depot and buy a paint strainer. It is a mesh material .
Lecithin is cheap and can be found at a Health food store. This is great stuff if your blending your root with a water base liquid. The Lecithin will help emulsify and activate the lactones. Dissolve 1 tablespoon in warm water before adding to blender.
Exactly!
Follow these instructions...
1) Soak your root POWDER for about 30 minutes in some water or coconut milk/water mixture
2) Dissolve your lecithin in warm water
3) Add both to blender and blend well.
4) Strain mixture through paint strainer and TWIST and SQUEEZE ALL juice from strainer (Don't skip this part)
5) Dim lights and enjoy. Bright lights kill the effect.
I believe drinking Kava in this fashion, as opposed to popping the capsules, is a much more safer way to consume Kava. The nasty taste really helps limit your consumption.Not to mention...the pacific islanders have been doing it for centuries.
Do NOT consume alcohol with Kava...You'll kill the whole "experience"...not to mention you'll destroy your liver quicker that stacking three 17-methyls!
heebs10
Well-known member
thanks, that helps. im assuming you have the root powder then? is this like a fine powder or is it a more course, gritty powder?
the actives in the kava still absorb better with fats i assume. so the fat soluble solvent is not so much for extracting as it is for absorption in your body. lectihin:Invalid Link Removed
GotTest
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Oh...forgot to mention.
I have found (and read somewhere) there is a sort of "build up" that Kava has to due in the body. I don't understand the whole pharma. behind this, but the more often you use drink Kava the less you need to obtain the same experience. So be patient.
Opposite of alcohol.
I have found (and read somewhere) there is a sort of "build up" that Kava has to due in the body. I don't understand the whole pharma. behind this, but the more often you use drink Kava the less you need to obtain the same experience. So be patient.
Opposite of alcohol.
soultrain
Member
It's a fine powder. I did not notice anything gritty about it when I drank it. It went down smooth, I was just surprised at how awful it tasted.
I totally missed that point the first time around.
Thanks guys. I will try your suggestions and report back tomorrow.
MentalTwitch
Well-known member
a few things i noticed...
- Kava being blended is what releases the OIL from the Kava powder. This is why you strain. As mentioned heat can kill it.
- Straining is straining. I squeezed at all through the filter, if the liquid makes it through, its working.
- Light should NOT kill the effects. I dont believe this si acting on seratonin level, like melatonin where lights takes away the effects.
- I have no idea about the milk/cocnut oil and such.
- Someone previously mentioned they felt more effects with consuming with alcohol, which i would understand. I actually plan totry this this weekend.
I was goign to make about 16oz of Kava "juice"/water and then just put about 2-4oz in every drink i drink, i could see the alcohol killing ALOT of the taste.
I will try the let sit for awhile, my biggest issue is taste. ON has a proein i just tried called Mega Chocolate or something, covers up the taste well...enough
- Kava being blended is what releases the OIL from the Kava powder. This is why you strain. As mentioned heat can kill it.
- Straining is straining. I squeezed at all through the filter, if the liquid makes it through, its working.
- Light should NOT kill the effects. I dont believe this si acting on seratonin level, like melatonin where lights takes away the effects.
- I have no idea about the milk/cocnut oil and such.
- Someone previously mentioned they felt more effects with consuming with alcohol, which i would understand. I actually plan totry this this weekend.
I was goign to make about 16oz of Kava "juice"/water and then just put about 2-4oz in every drink i drink, i could see the alcohol killing ALOT of the taste.
I will try the let sit for awhile, my biggest issue is taste. ON has a proein i just tried called Mega Chocolate or something, covers up the taste well...enough
soultrain
Member
2nd time - Success! But...
Mixed 4 tablespoons root powder with coconut milk and pineapple juice. Blended for 10 minutes and let sit in fridge for 30 minutes. Removed and blended 1 extra minute. Chugged entire mixture down without gagging. After an hour I was definitely feeling it. A warm, relaxed, glowing feeling. But under that was a sickly, vile, stomach-churning feeling that I wished would go away. Burps were unbelievably nasty! Still....it was a nice feeling and after another hour or so I felt it fade a little, so I mixed up another 4 tablespoons and chugged that. The good feeling did not come back, but the bad one did. I went to bed thinking I would wake up and puke any minute...but never did.
Next day I felt so awful I did not go into work. My head was a cluster-f*ck and my stomach wasn't much better.
Morale of the story: it's a nice buzz, warm and relaxing, but not worth the price.
Two days later...Ready for more hair of the dog...
Concocted 4 tablespoon mixture and thinking the root was to blame for my stomach problems, I tried to strain out root powder with a paint strainer. It did not work; mixture was too thick. Said f*ck it and chugged it down anyway. Did not feel much, so after an hour made another concoction. Managed to eat a bite of nourishment and stomach felt ok (sans nasty burbs). It hit hard at this point. Whole body was warm and glowing. Music sounded wonderful and tongue was totally numb. There was a slight wavy feeling aka being drunk, but totally pleasurable.
2nd morale: Next time I would definitely like to try the gelcaps. To hell with this sickly feeling and having to hold my nose drinking that awful brew.
Mixed 4 tablespoons root powder with coconut milk and pineapple juice. Blended for 10 minutes and let sit in fridge for 30 minutes. Removed and blended 1 extra minute. Chugged entire mixture down without gagging. After an hour I was definitely feeling it. A warm, relaxed, glowing feeling. But under that was a sickly, vile, stomach-churning feeling that I wished would go away. Burps were unbelievably nasty! Still....it was a nice feeling and after another hour or so I felt it fade a little, so I mixed up another 4 tablespoons and chugged that. The good feeling did not come back, but the bad one did. I went to bed thinking I would wake up and puke any minute...but never did.
Next day I felt so awful I did not go into work. My head was a cluster-f*ck and my stomach wasn't much better.
Morale of the story: it's a nice buzz, warm and relaxing, but not worth the price.
Two days later...Ready for more hair of the dog...
Concocted 4 tablespoon mixture and thinking the root was to blame for my stomach problems, I tried to strain out root powder with a paint strainer. It did not work; mixture was too thick. Said f*ck it and chugged it down anyway. Did not feel much, so after an hour made another concoction. Managed to eat a bite of nourishment and stomach felt ok (sans nasty burbs). It hit hard at this point. Whole body was warm and glowing. Music sounded wonderful and tongue was totally numb. There was a slight wavy feeling aka being drunk, but totally pleasurable.
2nd morale: Next time I would definitely like to try the gelcaps. To hell with this sickly feeling and having to hold my nose drinking that awful brew.
bryan4980
Member
Is that a reverse tolerance, or does it just build up in your system?