Mmmmm... I love Kava

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i dont think they will draw blood or take urine. I didnt for ambien just say ambien isnt working anymore.

You dont work?
 
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i dont think they will draw blood or take urine.
Doc's here will want urine or blood before whipping out a new script like that,they would want to know exactly why the ambien aint workin,which they didn't prescribe me anyways.I've been through this before,trust me.And I don't really have time to be screwing around with a bunch of new doctors right now.I'm more of a self medicating kinda guy anyways...Your general physicians aren't worth a crap anyways,now your specialist know there stuff.
 
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Tried NOW, but don't like it.... didn't do very much to me. Nothing compares to the real raw powdered root. Also taken phenibut... stuff will knock you on your ASS if you take too much... but its pretty much like a good alcohol buzz if you dose it right, considering it works on the same receptors in your brain... but like alcohol, there is always a temptation to have a little more phenibut... trust me, BAD IDEA. Take a bad alcohol hangover and multiply it by 10, and thats what phenibut will do... for a couple days at LEAST... and you will not stop being dizzy or feeling like you want to hurl... and you will be VERY groggy for those two days. I slept for 16 hrs straight on the stuff when I accidently took too much...:D The nice part is that it is not addicting as you get quite a tolerance and don't feel anything if you dose it more than about a couple times a week, unlike alcohol...

I'd say its definitely more powerful than Kava if your looking for the buzz... kava gives you more of a euphoric, calm feeling. Hmmmm.... maybe I'll combine the two... never tried that...:twisted:
 
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Anyone would recommend the best product? Oral caps would be the best bet for me. Konakavefarm won't ship to Canada :(
 
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Anyone would recommend the best product? Oral caps would be the best bet for me. Konakavefarm won't ship to Canada :(
84% kavalactone paste or extract. You might be out of luck in Canada regulates kava.
 

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I had the Now Kava pills and it didnt do jack, even went fairly high on the dose. Nothing....

Im half tempted to try kona kava farm...Wish the 84% pills were in stock...

Should I go with the Paste or just the Powder?

edit: just bought some paste we'll see how it gpes when i get it

any tips on how to use the paste?
 
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any tips on how to use the paste?
I usually put it in a milkshake or a daquiri. Ive alsojust put it on a small piece of break and downed the thing. Eating it straight up will numb the crap out of your mouth...really strange feeling. If you have a capping kit from nutraplanet you could just cap the stuff.....that would be AWESOME!
 
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You dont work?
Work?WTF is that....oh thats that whole money making thing everyone seems to go about the wrong way...I've heard of that job thing...I'm sorry bro,that sucks;)That job stuff will kill ya
 

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I usually put it in a milkshake or a daquiri. Ive alsojust put it on a small piece of break and downed the thing. Eating it straight up will numb the crap out of your mouth...really strange feeling. If you have a capping kit from nutraplanet you could just cap the stuff.....that would be AWESOME!
What type of texture is it? jelly, ketchup, peanut butter??

I do have caps, but the the absorption time would slow down...
 
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I had the Now Kava pills and it didnt do jack, even went fairly high on the dose. Nothing....

Im half tempted to try kona kava farm...Wish the 84% pills were in stock...

Should I go with the Paste or just the Powder?

edit: just bought some paste we'll see how it gpes when i get it

any tips on how to use the paste?
If you bought the 84% paste, you can just roll two balls the size of peas and swallow them like pills. Take more to your own tastes.
 

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tried 2 peas sized balls of the 84% 2 days ago....nothing

tried 4 today...nothing....but after a beer i started getting these weird shivers
 
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sounds like some interesting stuff! wonder how it would do with a nice dose of neuro balance... that stuff def relaxes and levels me out.
 
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tried 2 peas sized balls of the 84% 2 days ago....nothing

tried 4 today...nothing....but after a beer i started getting these weird shivers
I grabbed some of the kona kava a while back (just the ground root) and did the whole extraction deal with the little cheese cloth baggie there. I felt a bit of a buzz the 1st time I used it, but nothing since. I've even gone beyond double dosing and still nada.

I'm wondering if I'd be better served just eating the powder...although it is a ****load to get down.
 
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Yea, I was drunk camping one time, and me and 4 close friends went off to smoke some Salvia. Ive tried it a few other times before but never really got high off of it.

This time was different, as soon as I exhaled, everything changed, and my entire essence was bubbling and vibrating and shifting with electric raking motions. I was 13 or so tunnels of vision. Very cool, very intense. Now im hesitant to smoke it again. hehehe. It really does send you to another dimension.
I tried the 5x salvia and didnt get anything out of it...other than coughing my lungs out. I was pretty disappointed with the stuff. Kratom on the other hand...good stuff.
 
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I tried the 5x salvia and didnt get anything out of it...other than coughing my lungs out. I was pretty disappointed with the stuff. Kratom on the other hand...good stuff.
did you smoke it right? You are supposed to leave the flame on the whole time you are inhaling and supposed to hold in for as long as possible (this makes a BIG diff imo).
 
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did you smoke it right? You are supposed to leave the flame on the whole time you are inhaling and supposed to hold in for as long as possible (this makes a BIG diff imo).
Yeah, used one of those butane torch lighters. I held it as long as I could, but I'm not a smoker and it doesn't take much for me to start coughing. Plus it seemed pretty harsh, much moreso than bud.
 
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Yeah, used one of those butane torch lighters. I held it as long as I could, but I'm not a smoker and it doesn't take much for me to start coughing. Plus it seemed pretty harsh, much moreso than bud.
hmmmm.....you need to try 20x or above then! harsh yes but not as hard to hold in as bud.
 

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I grabbed some of the kona kava a while back (just the ground root) and did the whole extraction deal with the little cheese cloth baggie there. I felt a bit of a buzz the 1st time I used it, but nothing since. I've even gone beyond double dosing and still nada.

I'm wondering if I'd be better served just eating the powder...although it is a ****load to get down.
I just bought a large bag of the pure root powder. I don't have a problem just downing things...would it be okay just to blend the root powder in a blender with some milk/protein and just drink it without extracting? I have a high tolerance for ****ty tasting foods...so Its no problem downing it...i'm just super lazy with this whole extracting thing. I'm still waiting for it to arrive, i ordered it from the kona kava farm you linked me too.

Any advice would help...
 
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I just bought a large bag of the pure root powder. I don't have a problem just downing things...would it be okay just to blend the root powder in a blender with some milk/protein and just drink it without extracting? I have a high tolerance for ****ty tasting foods...so Its no problem downing it...i'm just super lazy with this whole extracting thing. I'm still waiting for it to arrive, i ordered it from the kona kava farm you linked me too.

Any advice would help...
haha sounds like a plan man.... prepare to have a wierd ass feeling in ur mouth though. In all honesty.. unless ur worried about a drug test or its super against your religion or something....just by some weed lol. I just got blitzed for $5 man lol waaay cheaper than enough kava to get the same high.
 

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haha sounds like a plan man.... prepare to have a wierd ass feeling in ur mouth though. In all honesty.. unless ur worried about a drug test or its super against your religion or something....just by some weed lol. I just got blitzed for $5 man lol waaay cheaper than enough kava to get the same high.
I used to be the biggest pot head man....but I've been clean for 3 months due to a city job that I will be tested for within the next week or two. The only thing that keeps my mind off of it was my girl and bodybuilding. My girl is pissing me off right now, things aren't going so well...so i'm looking for the closest weed substitute that will let me pass a drug test!...I used to drink in these times...but I don't want to ruin my gains! I need something to get my mind off of everything...I get a ton of anxiety at night and its hard for me to get a good sleep.
 
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I used to be the biggest pot head man....but I've been clean for 3 months due to a city job that I will be tested for within the next week or two. The only thing that keeps my mind off of it was my girl and bodybuilding. My girl is pissing me off right now, things aren't going so well...so i'm looking for the closest weed substitute that will let me pass a drug test!...I used to drink in these times...but I don't want to ruin my gains! I need something to get my mind off of everything...I get a ton of anxiety at night and its hard for me to get a good sleep.
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/1279/neurobalance.html
 
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Does it have any side effects like phenibut? I read the review right below it and it said its very similar. I have to wake up in the morning so I can't feel like crap every morning after taking it.
Yeah, neurobalance is phenibut.
 
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hmmmm.....you need to try 20x or above then! harsh yes but not as hard to hold in as bud.
ehh, i dont think im even going to bother. I honestly don't have much trouble with weed as long as I smoke small amounts at a time. I smoke it very rarely though, like maybe once/twice per year.
 

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Yeah, neurobalance is phenibut.
Yeahright, I just got done reading your log on neurobalance and I didn't see you post any side effects - as I have read many with phenibut.

So, can you just confirm that the above quote is not exactly right and there are no such side effects? Or are there? I just can't wake up feeling like I have a hangover!
 
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It is phenibut-like but as far as I can tell it does not have the negative sides of phen.

I like NeuroBalance a lot and feel the good effects of it for 2-3 days after a dose. Very relaxing supp that lets you function just fine. No hangovers from it that I have ever felt.
 

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It is phenibut-like but as far as I can tell it does not have the negative sides of phen.

I like NeuroBalance a lot and feel the good effects of it for 2-3 days after a dose. Very relaxing supp that lets you function just fine. No hangovers from it that I have ever felt.
exactly what I need to hear, thanks for the input....I think i'll give it a try. Too bad its so damn expensive!
 
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no i have no phen hangover the next day with neuro in fact i wake up in a very happy and relaxed all though well rested mood. its great to help unwind at the end of the day and with higher doses its near impossible to stay awake.
 
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Yeahright, I just got done reading your log on neurobalance and I didn't see you post any side effects - as I have read many with phenibut.

So, can you just confirm that the above quote is not exactly right and there are no such side effects? Or are there? I just can't wake up feeling like I have a hangover!
Your mileage may vary but I've never experienced any ill effects with neurobalance. You do need to be cautious with such products because they significantly alter brain chemistry to provide the effect you desire and IMHO that's something you don't want to get used to. It's a great product which I recommend without hesitation, just don't abuse it.
 
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Wow is all I can say. This stuff is awesome. Everything seems to be beautiful, and colourful. This was one of the best experience I've ever had!
 

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Wow is all I can say. This stuff is awesome. Everything seems to be beautiful, and colourful. This was one of the best experience I've ever had!
Is it very similar to being high?....or not as good?

My 8oz bag of kava came yesterday....I blended 3 tbsps with some milk and protein and chugged it quick (without extraction). I got that tingling effect in my mouth but it wasn't that bad (probably because I chugged it fast). It was already late at night and I was in a terrible mood because of a dinner I had with the woman. After taking it I immediately sat in bed...and I suddenly felt a definite head change. It wasn't that drastic, but it did seem to take the edge off and make me slightly drowsy. After I work out today I'm going to take 4-5tbsps and just try to pass out and forgot about everything...I'll let you guys know how it goes.
 
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Is it very similar to being high?....or not as good?

My 8oz bag of kava came yesterday....I blended 3 tbsps with some milk and protein and chugged it quick (without extraction). I got that tingling effect in my mouth but it wasn't that bad (probably because I chugged it fast). It was already late at night and I was in a terrible mood because of a dinner I had with the woman. After taking it I immediately sat in bed...and I suddenly felt a definite head change. It wasn't that drastic, but it did seem to take the edge off and make me slightly drowsy. After I work out today I'm going to take 4-5tbsps and just try to pass out and forgot about everything...I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Well, I was never high sorry lol. But it did make me very happy, I was dancing and singing alone. lol
 
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Well, I was never high sorry lol. But it did make me very happy, I was dancing and singing alone. lol
what stuff are you talking about,phenibut?


Also 'Self.....post how those 4-5 sccops of kava work for ya,I picked up some kava extract local cause it was under $10 and like 5 minutes crom my house,I'm sure the extract is crap though as I've read,but you never know til' you try something yourself,local shop had a bunch of phenibut stuff too,we're lucky to have some local small shops with ph's and all kinda good stuf where I'm at...However I don't use designers,but still nice to know they're they're if I needed them.
 
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what stuff are you talking about,phenibut?


Also 'Self.....post how those 4-5 sccops of kava work for ya,I picked up some kava extract local cause it was under $10 and like 5 minutes crom my house,I'm sure the extract is crap though as I've read,but you never know til' you try something yourself,local shop had a bunch of phenibut stuff too,we're lucky to have some local small shops with ph's and all kinda good stuf where I'm at...However I don't use designers,but still nice to know they're they're if I needed them.
Kava bud!
 

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what stuff are you talking about,phenibut?


Also 'Self.....post how those 4-5 sccops of kava work for ya,I picked up some kava extract local cause it was under $10 and like 5 minutes crom my house,I'm sure the extract is crap though as I've read,but you never know til' you try something yourself,local shop had a bunch of phenibut stuff too,we're lucky to have some local small shops with ph's and all kinda good stuf where I'm at...However I don't use designers,but still nice to know they're they're if I needed them.
I just got home from an intense arm workout...after i'm done downing this xtend...i'm gonna mix up that 4-5 tblsps.....

I'll post as soon as I'm done drinking the kava mix!
 

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I just blended 4tblsps of Kava root extract in a blender with around 14oz of water....

I did not use any extraction method (pure laziness). I literally blended for about a minute....then chugged it as fast as I could. And yes...it tasted just like dirt....

Instantly my tongue started getting a tingly/numbing sensation...As i'm writing this I'm feeling the head rush....feels like i've been drinking a few. I'll post back with more details as the night goes on. Head feels heavy....
 

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It's been an hour since I drank the 4tblsp kava mix. I definitely felt much more relaxed, and it took the edge off. But It did not make me feel drowsy/drunk.

And yes...tonight is a boring Friday night for me...which is why I had nothing better to do than log this kava experiment. :yawn:

The woman is working....friends are drinking somewhere else...and I'm getting bored with just the double dose of kava. I think I may take another 2 tablespoons of it when I have my before bed shake...maybe even 3 or four because I'm so damn bored and just want to pass out. I'll let you all know how it goes. So far...it's some thing to take the slight edge off...but nothing too exciting for me-I guess I'm just looking for more of a head change.
 

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take 7!!!!!! do it, do it, do it.
At 9pm (about an hour and a half later) I took 4 MORE tblsps....this time I blended it with milk/protein. Tastes much better this time with the protein/milk combo...but the tongue tingling is still there.

Now....I definitely feel it.

The woman called me after she got off of work...started telling me about her ****ty day...and wow...her complaining really didn't seem to phase me. We recently haven't been on good terms-we got in a long fight last night...and let me tell you, this QUADruple dose (8tblsps total) really took the edge off having to listen to her tonight.
Through ought the half hour conversation...the kava kept kicking in more and more....and the less and less I cared, and the more and more I could tolerate her! I stayed totally relaxed...and now that I got off the phone with her...all I want to do is watch this Titus stand up on comedy central while I relax in my bed.

I'm VERY satisfied right now with the feelings from the kava....but I'm slightly disappointed it takes me 4-times the recommended dose to feel this good. But it's definitely what I needed right now!
 

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tiredness or just immense relaxation?
Both....I was supposed to stay up and wait for my lady to call me back...I was totally passed out within 10 minutes of writing that last post. I slept through 2 missed calls (which I never do, my phone always wakes me up) AND i had the TV on to keep me up. This dosing of kava totally knocked me out. I was so relaxed, no anxiety, and I drowsy tired. My head felt very heavy like when you want to lie down after drinking too much. I will definetely do this again.
 
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Good to know...you got the powdered root from Kona Kava farm right?
 
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Sounds like this stuff might be good mixed in a frozen pina colada or some margharitta mix or somethin,I'm a have to order me some tonight

Heres a recipe for Kona Colada'

On a warm evening on the big island of Hawaii, kava grower Zachary Gibson proudly demonstrated his latest drink, a kava colada. "See, I take a whole ice tray of frozen pineapple-juice cubes, put them all in a blender with a full can of coconut milk, add one ounce of fluid kava extract and just a little honey and vanilla, blend it all up, and it makes six really delicious drinks."

Zachary whizzed the concoction in a blender until the mixture was smooth and creamy. The fat in the coconut would help absorb the kavalactones in the kava extract. The pineapple, coconut milk, honey, and vanilla would all blunt the bitterness of the kava. Six of us hoisted the kava coladas and drank together. The drink was impressively delicious, and we all felt the effects of the kava immediately. Zachary was excited. "See? You make a drink like this with kava, and people will really like it."

We enjoyed the kava coladas so much that we made another blender full about 30 minutes later and drank those too. Half an hour later, we had a third round. Meanwhile, we did what islanders in Oceania have done for thousands of years. We sat together as the warm, golden sun set into the vast Pacific Ocean, and we shared thoughtful conversation and good company.

Excerpted from “Psyche Delicacies” by Chris Kilham.


I'm sure you could use the powder root as well...coconut/pineapple...thats straight up Pina Colada'...sounds good
 

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Good to know...you got the powdered root from Kona Kava farm right?
Yup, just the plain root extract. It came pretty damn fast too! I seem to need a lot of it to get the desired effect though...I think i'm going to try to use the neurobalance for my next purchase instead of this.
 
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