spartanking62
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Thought id add some of the products to the chemical nomenclature.
A) 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-en-3b,17b-diol ----- (Halodrol)
It converts to a steroid called Methylclostebol that may or may not have been marketed in Europe at one time. The 4-chloro substitution prevents it from being aromatized and also prevents 5a-reduction to a DHT derivative so its androgenic potential is only moderate (Vida has it at 0.1 versus methyltest).
B) 2a,3a Epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane ----- (Epistane & Havoc)
Contrary to the previous entry - which were steroid precursors - this is an active steroid. It also differs from the previous one in that it is a very potent hormone. According to Vida, it possesses 11 times the anabolic potency of methyltest while being 0.9 as androgenic.
In the lab it breaks down under heat and certain chemical conditions to the steroid DMT (17a-Methyl-androstan-2-en-17b-ol), which has similar potency. Whether this happens in the body, I don't know, but the possibility exists that this compound is simply a pro-drug and it is DMT that is actually the physiologically species in the body.
This stuff is a methylated derivative of the Japanese drug Epitiostanol, which is used to treat breast cancer due to its estrogen antagonist action. Because of this property, the gains seen from its use are relatively dry. The extent of HPTA shutdown is unknown, but being a powerful hormone, it is not likely to be modest in this regard. Liver toxicity is unknown as well, however users reports are lacking in the usual subjective feedback that indicates heavy liver strain - lethargy, appetite disturbances, etc. This is one of the newest steroid products to hit the market and it is very popular right now. It probably is considered the best bang for the buck of the current lot.
C) Estra-4,9-dien-3,17-dione ----- (FinigeX Magnum)
This is another steroid precursor, a dione to be specific. Diones only have moderately decent conversion, so this product will not possess the full activity of its active metabolite. The active metabolite in this case is the nandrolone derivative Estra-4,9-dien-17b-ol-3-one and according to Vida, it has an anabolic potency equal to methyltestosterone and an androgenic potency 0.1 times.
It does not appear from my knowledge of steroid metabolism that this steroid aromatizes. However the potential for progestational activity is there, as it is with many 19-norandrogens. This stuff has been referred to as a trenbolone precursor, however this is inaccurate because trenbolone has an additional double bond in the structure and the body does not have the capacity (as far as i know) to insert this double bond. Bottom line is that this is a weak hormone with so-so conversion that probably requires 50mg-100mg for physiological effects to be seen in most men. On the upside the fact that it is not 17a-alkylated, so liver toxicity is not a serious issue.
D) 17a-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3b,17bdiol ----- (M1,4-ADD)
This is a Dianabol precursor. It differs only in the presence of a hydroxyl group in the 3 position, where a ketone is supposed to be, however the conversion of the hydroxyl to the ketone in the body should be quite efficient. The possibility exists, however, for any remaining unconverted material to exert direct estrogenic effects, but i have not heard of any user reports concerning this that have raised any alarm.
Dianabol, of course, is a decent anabolic compound with modest androgenic action and low toxicity for a 17a-methyl. Most people feel good on Dianabol andI see no reason why they would not feel similarly on this stuff, unless the estrogen problem I mentioned becomes an issue. Users would likely need a minimum of 25mg to start seeing gains. This stuff came out years ago and when i tested it at the time on my GC/MS I found it contained a mixture of the correct compound and its delta-4 analog (which would be a methyltestosterone precursor). This was likely due to the process used to manufacture it from Dianabol called a borohydride reduction. It gives a mixture of these two isomers unless a certain catalyst is used and apparently the Chinese who made it were not aware of this catalyst. I remember that made me chuckle at the time, but I am sure the Chinese steroid manufacturers have come a long way since then.
E) 5a-androstan-[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether ----- (Prostanozol)
In my opinion, this chemical looks a lot more impressive than the actions it has in the body are. It is a structural analog to the methylated steroid furazabol. Furazabol is an androgen that used to be used in Japan to treat high cholesterol. It is best known as the steroid that Ben Johnson was supposed to be receiving from Dr. Astaphan back in 1988. Of course, the stuff Ben was pitting in his ass was actually stanozolol (so the story goes), which led to his humiliating drug positive days after whipping Carl Lewis' ass in the 100 meters in Seoul.
Furazabol is in fact a lot like stanozolol (aka winstrol) in that it shares an odd heterocyclic ring attached to the A ring of the steroid nucleus. Pharmacologically, the two are much alike as well - highly anabolic compounds which do not aromatize and give very nice, dry gains. However this analog does not seem to share anywhere near the potency of its methylated cousin. In fact doses as high as 100mg only give very slight gains, if any at all.
The rationale behind the development of this stuff (and the stanozolol analog I am addressing next) is that unmethylated analogs of potent methylated compounds should also be potent. This simply is not the case and there are many cases in the literature where this fact has been demonstrated with steroid derivatives. It seems that this is not the case with this either.
F) [3,2-c]pyrazole-5a-androstan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether ----- (Furazadrol)
Like i said, this is the Stanozolol equivalent of the furazabol analog I just told you about. And every crappy thing I said about the former applies to this one. I don't think I need say any more.
G) 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3-one ----- (Superdrol)
This stuff is potent. And toxic. It used to be the best selling of the legal steroids of the post-2005 ban. It also used to be touted as being safe, with little HPTA shutdown or liver toxicity. We now know better. People have reportedly getten sick from this stuff, some almost died. Many have had prolonged testosterone suppression for long times after taking it. Of course, some have loved the stuff and experienced little in the way of negative side effects. Personally, I tried it and it put weight on me, but gave me headaches and bloody noses and made me feel like I was hit by a truck.
The company that originally sold it had to stop because they got letters from the FDA. It now pops up in some formulas, usually hidden under funny names. I suggest if you see any funny products with steroids in them then try to figure out exactly what is in them, because if they contain this stuff you probably want to steer clear.
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A) 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-4-en-3b,17b-diol ----- (Halodrol)
It converts to a steroid called Methylclostebol that may or may not have been marketed in Europe at one time. The 4-chloro substitution prevents it from being aromatized and also prevents 5a-reduction to a DHT derivative so its androgenic potential is only moderate (Vida has it at 0.1 versus methyltest).
B) 2a,3a Epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane ----- (Epistane & Havoc)
Contrary to the previous entry - which were steroid precursors - this is an active steroid. It also differs from the previous one in that it is a very potent hormone. According to Vida, it possesses 11 times the anabolic potency of methyltest while being 0.9 as androgenic.
In the lab it breaks down under heat and certain chemical conditions to the steroid DMT (17a-Methyl-androstan-2-en-17b-ol), which has similar potency. Whether this happens in the body, I don't know, but the possibility exists that this compound is simply a pro-drug and it is DMT that is actually the physiologically species in the body.
This stuff is a methylated derivative of the Japanese drug Epitiostanol, which is used to treat breast cancer due to its estrogen antagonist action. Because of this property, the gains seen from its use are relatively dry. The extent of HPTA shutdown is unknown, but being a powerful hormone, it is not likely to be modest in this regard. Liver toxicity is unknown as well, however users reports are lacking in the usual subjective feedback that indicates heavy liver strain - lethargy, appetite disturbances, etc. This is one of the newest steroid products to hit the market and it is very popular right now. It probably is considered the best bang for the buck of the current lot.
C) Estra-4,9-dien-3,17-dione ----- (FinigeX Magnum)
This is another steroid precursor, a dione to be specific. Diones only have moderately decent conversion, so this product will not possess the full activity of its active metabolite. The active metabolite in this case is the nandrolone derivative Estra-4,9-dien-17b-ol-3-one and according to Vida, it has an anabolic potency equal to methyltestosterone and an androgenic potency 0.1 times.
It does not appear from my knowledge of steroid metabolism that this steroid aromatizes. However the potential for progestational activity is there, as it is with many 19-norandrogens. This stuff has been referred to as a trenbolone precursor, however this is inaccurate because trenbolone has an additional double bond in the structure and the body does not have the capacity (as far as i know) to insert this double bond. Bottom line is that this is a weak hormone with so-so conversion that probably requires 50mg-100mg for physiological effects to be seen in most men. On the upside the fact that it is not 17a-alkylated, so liver toxicity is not a serious issue.
D) 17a-methyl-1,4-androstadien-3b,17bdiol ----- (M1,4-ADD)
This is a Dianabol precursor. It differs only in the presence of a hydroxyl group in the 3 position, where a ketone is supposed to be, however the conversion of the hydroxyl to the ketone in the body should be quite efficient. The possibility exists, however, for any remaining unconverted material to exert direct estrogenic effects, but i have not heard of any user reports concerning this that have raised any alarm.
Dianabol, of course, is a decent anabolic compound with modest androgenic action and low toxicity for a 17a-methyl. Most people feel good on Dianabol andI see no reason why they would not feel similarly on this stuff, unless the estrogen problem I mentioned becomes an issue. Users would likely need a minimum of 25mg to start seeing gains. This stuff came out years ago and when i tested it at the time on my GC/MS I found it contained a mixture of the correct compound and its delta-4 analog (which would be a methyltestosterone precursor). This was likely due to the process used to manufacture it from Dianabol called a borohydride reduction. It gives a mixture of these two isomers unless a certain catalyst is used and apparently the Chinese who made it were not aware of this catalyst. I remember that made me chuckle at the time, but I am sure the Chinese steroid manufacturers have come a long way since then.
E) 5a-androstan-[2,3-c]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether ----- (Prostanozol)
In my opinion, this chemical looks a lot more impressive than the actions it has in the body are. It is a structural analog to the methylated steroid furazabol. Furazabol is an androgen that used to be used in Japan to treat high cholesterol. It is best known as the steroid that Ben Johnson was supposed to be receiving from Dr. Astaphan back in 1988. Of course, the stuff Ben was pitting in his ass was actually stanozolol (so the story goes), which led to his humiliating drug positive days after whipping Carl Lewis' ass in the 100 meters in Seoul.
Furazabol is in fact a lot like stanozolol (aka winstrol) in that it shares an odd heterocyclic ring attached to the A ring of the steroid nucleus. Pharmacologically, the two are much alike as well - highly anabolic compounds which do not aromatize and give very nice, dry gains. However this analog does not seem to share anywhere near the potency of its methylated cousin. In fact doses as high as 100mg only give very slight gains, if any at all.
The rationale behind the development of this stuff (and the stanozolol analog I am addressing next) is that unmethylated analogs of potent methylated compounds should also be potent. This simply is not the case and there are many cases in the literature where this fact has been demonstrated with steroid derivatives. It seems that this is not the case with this either.
F) [3,2-c]pyrazole-5a-androstan-17b-tetrahydropyranol ether ----- (Furazadrol)
Like i said, this is the Stanozolol equivalent of the furazabol analog I just told you about. And every crappy thing I said about the former applies to this one. I don't think I need say any more.
G) 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3-one ----- (Superdrol)
This stuff is potent. And toxic. It used to be the best selling of the legal steroids of the post-2005 ban. It also used to be touted as being safe, with little HPTA shutdown or liver toxicity. We now know better. People have reportedly getten sick from this stuff, some almost died. Many have had prolonged testosterone suppression for long times after taking it. Of course, some have loved the stuff and experienced little in the way of negative side effects. Personally, I tried it and it put weight on me, but gave me headaches and bloody noses and made me feel like I was hit by a truck.
The company that originally sold it had to stop because they got letters from the FDA. It now pops up in some formulas, usually hidden under funny names. I suggest if you see any funny products with steroids in them then try to figure out exactly what is in them, because if they contain this stuff you probably want to steer clear.
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