neoborn
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Bish stole your shizzle Cub:nutkick:!
Any positive reviews on the new M-drol batch?
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Bish stole your shizzle Cub:nutkick:!
bigrobbierob
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Day 3 @ 10 mgs of Danville batch p8353 eu112
Lethargy-check. I feel like I'm moving through a pool of water. It's all I can do to workout with weights, no way I can do anything else :bruce3:
Insomnia-check. Tired as hell last night, Slept 2 hours then woke up,I then proceeded to lay there for the next 4 hours and solve the worlds problems. :yawn:
Pumps-check. Enough that my wife (who doesn't know) commented. No back pumps that I can tell...I have a compressed l3/l4 so my lower back aches anyway.
appetite-check. I eat like a horse anyway, now I eat like a starving horse.Mainly beef,chicken,fish and eggs :food: Carbs are brown rice, veggies, Ezekial 4:9 bread, and whatever sneaks in from dairy and nuts.
strength- I dunno...I took the last 2 weeks off from training to "recharge" and my strength usually drops when I do that anyway.
Sex drive- Up. Again, my wife commented on it.
another effect?????-:gas: I don't remember seeing it during my research, but I swear I've farted more in the last 3 days than I usually do in a month. Weird stink to it too.It may be from the eggs I'm eating:fart:
How's everyone else's doing? Building Mass, you're about 2 weeks in now right? Has it kicked in?
Lethargy-check. I feel like I'm moving through a pool of water. It's all I can do to workout with weights, no way I can do anything else :bruce3:
Insomnia-check. Tired as hell last night, Slept 2 hours then woke up,I then proceeded to lay there for the next 4 hours and solve the worlds problems. :yawn:
Pumps-check. Enough that my wife (who doesn't know) commented. No back pumps that I can tell...I have a compressed l3/l4 so my lower back aches anyway.
appetite-check. I eat like a horse anyway, now I eat like a starving horse.Mainly beef,chicken,fish and eggs :food: Carbs are brown rice, veggies, Ezekial 4:9 bread, and whatever sneaks in from dairy and nuts.
strength- I dunno...I took the last 2 weeks off from training to "recharge" and my strength usually drops when I do that anyway.
Sex drive- Up. Again, my wife commented on it.
another effect?????-:gas: I don't remember seeing it during my research, but I swear I've farted more in the last 3 days than I usually do in a month. Weird stink to it too.It may be from the eggs I'm eating:fart:
How's everyone else's doing? Building Mass, you're about 2 weeks in now right? Has it kicked in?
Ziquor
Well-known member
Hey Rob are you doing a log? I highly suggest you do if you already haven't. I think many would be very interested to see your progress with the "new" batch of M-Drol as I know I would. I have this newer batch too & pondered using it soon.
building mass
New member
Yeah my cycle seems to be going pretty good.
Strength- Hasn't noticed much strength
Endurance- Endurance is off the charts. Able to hit more reps each set and recovery time is non existent
Weight- Not to sure don't have a scale right now.
Pumps- Great!!
The main thing i am waiting on the is weight gain but, a lot people say the gains don't kick in tell week 2 or 2 1/2 so i am still holding out.
Strength- Hasn't noticed much strength
Endurance- Endurance is off the charts. Able to hit more reps each set and recovery time is non existent
Weight- Not to sure don't have a scale right now.
Pumps- Great!!
The main thing i am waiting on the is weight gain but, a lot people say the gains don't kick in tell week 2 or 2 1/2 so i am still holding out.
Ziquor
Well-known member
Have you ran any hormonal PH/PS cycles before or is this #1?
hman85
Well-known member
Alright guys a little update on my pulse cycle so far. I am using batch # 11007 and it seems to be doing pretty well am up a couple pounds and am feeling very good and pumped all the time. I just started week one and i seem to have already about 2-5 pounds of gain. will update later
bigrobbierob
Active member
I can try. I have a job interview tomorrow and may start next week. Between the job and college I don't know if I'll have time. I may keep a written log and post updates. It depends on the hours I'd be working. So, an ongoing log...maybe...but I'll definitely post a final result in this thread when I'm done in about another 2 1/2 weeks.
pantera101
Banned
Agreed.All i want to know is the main good things,highlights,when you are done.Don't care about every wo and minute to minute feelings.Give me the basics in one paragraph,and to buy or not to buy.As far as this goes,i didn't want to hear week 2 on bigger bottle and not a damn thing,mission accomplished
MrDiode
Member
Just started at 10mg today of the previously referenced new bottle batch. Haven't done a PH since Sept (Epistane). Previous to that, had run Havoc (April 07).
Within 10 minutes of ingesting the M-Drol, that familiar feeling hit me hard. Pupils dialated, heart racing, focus way up. Had the best workout since the last time I ran a PH. Still feeling the alertness and stim of it at about an hour since ingestion (my body, I've found, absorbs chemicals incredibly fast).
New batch is definitely the real thing.
If anyone wants a log, just say so. I work from home about once a week and have no problems posting from the office when I'm not trapped in meetings.
Using the Madcow 5x5 Template with this run after about a year of HIT (needed to switch it up desperately).
Within 10 minutes of ingesting the M-Drol, that familiar feeling hit me hard. Pupils dialated, heart racing, focus way up. Had the best workout since the last time I ran a PH. Still feeling the alertness and stim of it at about an hour since ingestion (my body, I've found, absorbs chemicals incredibly fast).
New batch is definitely the real thing.
If anyone wants a log, just say so. I work from home about once a week and have no problems posting from the office when I'm not trapped in meetings.
Using the Madcow 5x5 Template with this run after about a year of HIT (needed to switch it up desperately).
Ziquor
Well-known member
I agree with Neo too on this Rob. Even if you just have a minute to toss up a end of cycle review I think a lot of us are curious to see some good results from the new bigger bottles/caps from Danville, VA. I'd like to see it work well because I have a couple. On a side note I found a chemical supplier who sells 100% pure 2a,17a-Dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one (Original Superdrol nomenclature) at $140 for 250mg. This makes me wonder how 'watered down' the end product from all clones is because this would be basically 25 x 10mg worth for $140 which makes me believe it's completely pure and the end result 10mg caps are not. They sell this product as Methylated Drostanolone...
Cub
Banned
10 minutes? :blink: I've been taking it for five days at 20mg and felt nothing. I'll up to 30mg on Monday for week two and then 40mg for week three if I still feel nothing.
Schism
Banned
Dude are you pulsing it again??
I ask because I'm about to start pulsing some M-drol, 3-maybe4 times a week for 4 weeks.
Cub
Banned
This is the one I'm using at the moment. It's older stock I spose as the new ones are in bigger bottles. It's all the same.
hman85
Well-known member
Yes and i am going 3x a week and it is working great. Have done 4x a week and it was good to but you Might get more suppresed
Schism
Banned
Sweet brother, will you post your results when your done. Also how long are you going for?
MrDiode
Member
As I stated.. I am VERY sensitive to orals.
In either case, now on day 4 of a 10/20/20 cycle (though I might jump to 20 a day or two early).. the back pumps the first two days were a total *****, but I grabbed some Mega-Taurine (holy gigantic pills batman, 1g of taurine in each). Take two a day.
Back pumps disappeared. Amazing.
So did anyone want a log or is the latest and greatest interest only in the pulse method?
:stick:
In either case, now on day 4 of a 10/20/20 cycle (though I might jump to 20 a day or two early).. the back pumps the first two days were a total *****, but I grabbed some Mega-Taurine (holy gigantic pills batman, 1g of taurine in each). Take two a day.
Back pumps disappeared. Amazing.
So did anyone want a log or is the latest and greatest interest only in the pulse method?
:stick:
Ziquor
Well-known member
Go ahead and log Diode I'll subscribe. IMO you can't have too many good logs. I'm about to start a cycle too and after much deliberation I decided I'm goin to do every day (ED) dosing at 10/20/20.
hman85
Well-known member
log that ziquor or let us know how it goes
hman85
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I am going to do 4 weeks and i will defiantely keep some updates on this thread
Schism
Banned
What the F@#$&? No Gains, are you f@#$en around. Where, where did you see this horribleness?
If I just spent all this money on a bunch of bunk ph's........well I don't know what I'll do but it wont be pretty!!!!!!!:nono:
pantera101
Banned
Theirs two guys on day 7 m-drol,claiming this,at day seven on mdrol.I have 3 bottles of m-drol,and i am getting scared
Ziquor
Well-known member
Who? I seen 3 and one's on day 14 with no gains.
EDIT: My bad I found 1 guy with nothing on day 9 of M-Drol the 2 weeks w/o anything was P-Plex.
Schism
Banned
M-drol, The Sh!t never ends!
I just PM'd this to Ziquor. Now I want to get your guys thoughts on it.
The other day I was doing I guess you could say an inventory on my supps. While I was putting them all away I noticed that my new bottle of M-Drol felt quite heavy compared to all my other ph's! Just a few minutes ago I weighed it against one of my (older) bottles of P-Plex.
The P-Plex weighed less than 1/4 of an once
The M-Drol weighed exactly 2onces!!!!
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simple math will tell you that at 15mgs/90ct P-Plex should out-weigh the M-Drol by 450mgs. As M-Drol is 10mgs/90ct!
So what's going on here anyone else notice this? WTF!!!!!!
Note: my scale sucks so I couldn't get an exact measurement. Maybe someone out there has a digital scale that will give an exact measurement. It would be appreciated and I will repp!!!
I just PM'd this to Ziquor. Now I want to get your guys thoughts on it.
The other day I was doing I guess you could say an inventory on my supps. While I was putting them all away I noticed that my new bottle of M-Drol felt quite heavy compared to all my other ph's! Just a few minutes ago I weighed it against one of my (older) bottles of P-Plex.
The P-Plex weighed less than 1/4 of an once
The M-Drol weighed exactly 2onces!!!!
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Simple math will tell you that at 15mgs/90ct P-Plex should out-weigh the M-Drol by 450mgs. As M-Drol is 10mgs/90ct!
So what's going on here anyone else notice this? WTF!!!!!!
Note: my scale sucks so I couldn't get an exact measurement. Maybe someone out there has a digital scale that will give an exact measurement. It would be appreciated and I will repp!!!
bigrobbierob
Active member
I don't even own a scale, but I weighed myself at my mom's last Sunday, and I'll be there again tomorrow. I started Mdrol Monday so it'll be a 6 day weigh in. I do have the sides I mentioned before, plus I've developed dry patches on my shoulders about dime sized.
Worse part is the lathargy...I feel like I havn't slept in weeks.
Next week I go from 10 mg to 20.
Worse part is the lathargy...I feel like I havn't slept in weeks.
Next week I go from 10 mg to 20.
2k2ser
Member
Anyone know anything about bottles with just a barcode? My 4 replacement bottles have no sticker on the bottom, date stamp on the label or anything. They do have the newer label....saying not to use M-Drol as a first cycle, etc. (Danville,VA label)
I'm about to start a cycle of H-Drol on March 1st. I bought everything from NP, M-Drol and H-Drol. This is when everything started about the bad M-Drol batches. I've not heard anything bad about the H-Drol. Looks like I also might be putting my M-Drol on Ebay. This really sucks.......
I'm about to start a cycle of H-Drol on March 1st. I bought everything from NP, M-Drol and H-Drol. This is when everything started about the bad M-Drol batches. I've not heard anything bad about the H-Drol. Looks like I also might be putting my M-Drol on Ebay. This really sucks.......
nosnmiveins
Well-known member
replacement bottles? did u send them back and they were replaced?
Schism
Banned
That would suck if these also prove to be sh!t cause a lot of guys got their old bottles replaced with this "new batch"!
At this point I'm thinking it would be good (as much as I hate to say it) for the FDA to step-in and start regulating this sh!t, because this is just fcuking ridiculous!! Every other PH seems to have some kind of issue lately, and I for one am getting sick of all these shady ass mothafcukers making money off of playing with their consumers health!!!!!!!!! Corporate America, got to love it!! Cut throat b@stards!!!!!!!!!!
Schism
Banned
Cool I'm sure your right! Glad your having good results from your pulse bro! How far into it are you?
2k2ser
Member
Yep, these are the replacement bottles. These are the same size bottles as the "old/good Bottles".
The only M-Drol caps that worked for me have been the small caps. I only opened 1 bottle of the "bad batch". Caps were double the size and they sucked! I couldn't exchange them and I only used about 2 weeks worth out the bottle.
nosnmiveins
Well-known member
bigrobbierob
Active member
I weighed myself today...up 5 lbs after one week.
pantera101
Banned
Good to hear Mr diode and bigrobbierob,good to hear:dance:
EasyEJL
Never enough
so far out of all the claims of "I got nothing" from mdrol, the only one i've seen at all that was believable was blackjack. Other than that, when I ask "how many cals over maintenance are you" and the person can't answer better than "a whole bunch, i'm eating like a horse" or "my diet is in check" but can't give a number, I don't believe its the compound thats the problem in not gaining weight. The other couple that got "nothing" (but when pressed it was gains of only 4 or 5 lbs in 2 weeks, not 0) were both cycling right after a cycle, without a wait period inbetween.
2k2ser
Member
sent them directly to CEL.
pantera101
Banned
If ya'll don't know now,i ran a phera/superdrol combo too quick after post cycle therapy,and got nothing,except for leg cramps.Lots of guys locally love that supp. so theirs another option of whats going on.I know what you mean easye,but i dont count cals.I simply eat as much as i can every 2-3 hours(usually2).Thats how i have put on 50lbs,relatively lean.I know how much i eat,and increase that from time to time,but i couldn't tell you how many cals i eat.Branch Warren says the same thing.No wonder your rep is so high,it's about impossible not to like you,I love your post's.Their true and enlightening.Yes Ziquor they are the P8353E0112 batch,I researched it.Happy cycles are in mine,and your,near future
EasyEJL
Never enough
Is that the way you eat off cycle too? I hate you then. at 197lbs, I have to watch so closely. My maintenance cals is only around 2700, i've worked it out over the last year, and thats with 1hr of strenuous exercise 5-6 days a week. Its ridiculous, I must have thyroid issues (and am finally getting it checked next month). But also I can easily gain 1-2lbs a week without anything but basic supplements, and if i'm low carb I can keep it all lean.
pantera101
Banned
I tried cutting for the first time about a month ago.I reduced carbs,started eating"clean" and started doing cardio for the first time in a while.I lost 13 lbs in 13 days,1/2"off arms and 3/4" off quads.I didn't realy need the cut but figured why not,maybe i'll learn something,and i def did.So yeah,i need the cals,i eat somewhat "dirty" most the time too.Thats prob the only nice thing.I force feed myself atleast once every day.Basically all day when i "set my foot down"to grow.That sucks.I just bought my second tub of muscle juice today,1020cals,162carbs,and 17g fat.mixed with water.I love the stuff,been drinking 2 a day,so that gives you an idea of my cal needs.
Ziquor
Well-known member
He's still a young pup too, lucky bas!ard. I remember when I was younger I could eat anything & everything and gain solid mass with virtually no fat. As soon as I hit 25-26 that all started to go away rapidly. Now if I bump calories too much at once over maintenence I look like a pear with legs & arms.
stxnas
Well-known member
I turned 27 this past Thursday and have definitely noticed a difference over the past two to three years or so :stick:
MentalTwitch
Well-known member
Ok. I was definelty the one who started this whole thing awhile back. I ran 20/20/30 of the questionable batch and got next to nothing from it. My sex drive was up for the first few days and then evened out. I did get alot stronger, just a bit. I dint have any very noticeable changes while on that i could put to the PH.
CEL had 1 for sure issue with the m1,4add.
After i brought my issue up a few others mentioned they had the same occurence. THEN we all spit out our batch numbers and they matched.
OK, Easy, just cause peopel dont count cals doesnt mean they cant have a good log or "honest" review.(this was not meant to sound like an attack, i got respect for you Easy)
That being said...
I am currently on my new Mdrol that CEL so kindly exchanged for me during this odd set of events.
I had tough back pumps for the 2nd and 3rd day. My joints as of today are slightly achey(sp?) and this was after a non-trianing day so i know not to atribute to that. Otherwise i have no other sides/effects to report.
Im bumping to 20mg tomorrow and expecting a sic week of pumps and hunger.
I did notice sat. morn i started feeling "hypo" per say at work, sudden weak/tired feeling, cold feeling all of a sudden, cold sweat with that, hard to focus(eyes) dizziness. I ate 2 high carb bars, about 55-60g all together, and felt fine.
I did nothing out of my regular routine to bring this upon myself except start mdrol a few days prior.
Best of luck to everyone on their cycles and pulses.
And as i said before, CEL is a stand-up company an they are easy to talk to.
Peace.
Anyone has any Qs or comments feel free to PM me.
CEL had 1 for sure issue with the m1,4add.
After i brought my issue up a few others mentioned they had the same occurence. THEN we all spit out our batch numbers and they matched.
OK, Easy, just cause peopel dont count cals doesnt mean they cant have a good log or "honest" review.(this was not meant to sound like an attack, i got respect for you Easy)
That being said...
I am currently on my new Mdrol that CEL so kindly exchanged for me during this odd set of events.
I had tough back pumps for the 2nd and 3rd day. My joints as of today are slightly achey(sp?) and this was after a non-trianing day so i know not to atribute to that. Otherwise i have no other sides/effects to report.
Im bumping to 20mg tomorrow and expecting a sic week of pumps and hunger.
I did notice sat. morn i started feeling "hypo" per say at work, sudden weak/tired feeling, cold feeling all of a sudden, cold sweat with that, hard to focus(eyes) dizziness. I ate 2 high carb bars, about 55-60g all together, and felt fine.
I did nothing out of my regular routine to bring this upon myself except start mdrol a few days prior.
Best of luck to everyone on their cycles and pulses.
And as i said before, CEL is a stand-up company an they are easy to talk to.
Peace.
Anyone has any Qs or comments feel free to PM me.
bigrobbierob
Active member
I my case, yes.
Another "side effect" I've noticed is what I will call muscle stiffness. Even though I stretch every day, my muscle feel stiff like I just woke up. I know Mdrol is supposed to dry you out, but I'm a Cissus freak that has been taking 750 mg 3x a day of Cissus for about 3 months.
My diet the last week hasn't been entirely clean either...somehow :burg: and
izza: have snuck on my plate a time or two. :food: Starting 20 mgs today. I'll take 10 mg in the morning before workout and the other 10 mg before bed. That brings something up...I take diphenhydramine hydrochloride (aka Benedryl) before bed to help me sleep, is there any potential reactions I should worry about?
EasyEJL
Never enough
Oh totally true, and you should at least get back pumps and lethargy if you take 20mg at one time (not necessarily if you spread them). But weight gains are tied to diet, so for me its harder to believe its the compounds fault that someone isn't gaining as much weight as they want if they can't say how much more than maintenance they are eating. calories in - calories out = weight gained or lost.