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Melt off belly fat and build muscle with CLA ethyl ester!

I have read that CLA is actually a trans-fatty acid. So it would make sense that to take it in such high doses as recommended would be detrimentral. I really like Primordial Performance though, even though I can't really afford their prices. The other products they have I would like to try, but this one I'm definitely gonna skip.
 
T-Bone said:
I have read that CLA is actually a trans-fatty acid. So it would make sense that to take it in such high doses as recommended would be detrimentral. I really like Primordial Performance though, even though I can't really afford their prices. The other products they have I would like to try, but this one I'm definitely gonna skip.
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CLA a natural trans-fat produced by bacteria, and is completely different than the hydrogenated trans fat you will find in the grocery store. The synthetic hydrogenated fats can’t even be used for the body’s normal physiological processes. CLA has none of the same detrimental effects, which is why the FDA doesn’t require CLA content to be listed as trans-fat on nutritional labeling.


-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
CLA a natural trans-fat produced by bacteria, and is completely different than the hydrogenated trans fat you will find in the grocery store. The synthetic hydrogenated fats can’t even be used for the body’s normal physiological processes. CLA has none of the same detrimental effects, which is why the FDA doesn’t require CLA content to be listed as trans-fat on nutritional labeling.


-Pp
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Thanks for clearing that up for me, I asked about it a while back and never got an answer(somewhere on this forum, I forgot where). Anyway, I'm just one of the people that don't believe in CLA supplementation. Your other products still hold my interest though.
 
Primordial Perf said:
I was saying that if you already purchased the max CLA then just use it. If not, then the CLA ethyl ester may be a more ecomonical choice, both for you and our local AM economy.

Anecdotal reports tell us that there is benefit from going as high as 15 g/day for maximum fat loss with CLA but I would guess there would be a higher likely hood of side effects at that dose.

I personaly wouldnt go over 7 g/day (3 servings of CLA ethyl ester)

-Pp
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I have taken tonalin brand CLA at a does of 10-12 grams per day with no results. How will this product be different?
 
I use 10 grams daily on a bulk or re-comp. I really believe that CLA works. That being said, I think it is only really useful to those with at least a hybrid endomorphic body type. Also, it is no miracle supp (none but the most dangerous are) and might seem "ineffective" if you don't have your diet and training to a tee. This is true for ALL supplements. I personally don't take anything but vitamins, oils, whey and whole food until I am near my set point. That is when ancillaries will produce the most profound effects.
 
Poly,
Sorry. I missed a couple of your Q's when I got tangential on a rant. I haven't found that timing of dosage did anything different. I think it is a cumulative compound...just get your daily amount in. I have used many brands and have noted little difference if any. I have no experience with the ethylated ester form, so your guess is as good as mine.
 
and by the by...I follow a CKD year-round, modified UD2 style. Oh yeah, I have also wondered if the perceived increase of muscle glycogen during carb-up could be from decreased sensitivity of fat cells to insulin? Again, this is vodoo conjecture based on my highly fragmented knowledge of the CLA studies.
 
conan1071 said:
I have taken tonalin brand CLA at a does of 10-12 grams per day with no results. How will this product be different?
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How long did you use the CLA for? Like dimi said, it’s a cumulative effect and something that need to be taken for at least a couple months to notice significant results.

Our CLA is very similar to the Tonalin brand, but maybe more enjoyable than taking over a dozen pills.

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
How long did you use the CLA for? Like dimi said, it’s a cumulative effect and something that need to be taken for at least a couple months to notice significant results.

Our CLA is very similar to the Tonalin brand, but maybe more enjoyable than taking over a dozen pills.

-Pp
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over 3 months
 
diminuendo, or whoever can answer this question...
How do you get 10 grams in every day? (Is that the normal amount that most people take if they are cutting down?) How many pills do you take?!?!?! I am trying to find a cost effective way of taking CLA.

Thanks!
 
paulygon said:
diminuendo, or whoever can answer this question...
How do you get 10 grams in every day? (Is that the normal amount that most people take if they are cutting down?) How many pills do you take?!?!?! I am trying to find a cost effective way of taking CLA.

Thanks!
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You would split up the dose 2-3x a day. 10 gm the absolute most I would do. I think 6 g/day is optimal for benefits without any side effects though.

-Pp
 
Ok, but even at 6 capsules per day, 180 capsule bottle will still only last me a month! Is there any other CLA product that may last longer?

Paul
 
Sesathin (Sesamin) for "fat loss" and CLA for minimization of "fat gain." They are two very different things. As far as Poly's question goes...I take caps, but would prefer a liquid. I hate caps, but have found that most liquids are harder to swallow than a handful of pills. I disagree about the dosage. I think ten grams is a good efficacious amount.
 
Sesathin (Sesamin) for "fat loss" and CLA for minimization of "fat gain." They are two very different things. As far as Poly's question goes...I take caps, but would prefer a liquid. I hate caps, but have found that most liquids are harder to swallow than a handful of pills. I disagree about the dosage. I think ten grams is a good efficacious amount.
 
EPA/DHA ethyl esters

pmiller383 said:
Hey, by any chance do you have a link for this info, my dad is on this stuff and he pays a lot for it.
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Here's something:

"despite the fact that DHA and EPA ethyl esters were much less effective than fish oil in increasing hepatic fatty acid oxidation."

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diminuendo said:
Sesathin (Sesamin) for "fat loss" and CLA for minimization of "fat gain." They are two very different things. As far as Poly's question goes...I take caps, but would prefer a liquid. I hate caps, but have found that most liquids are harder to swallow than a handful of pills. I disagree about the dosage. I think ten grams is a good efficacious amount.
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Most companies & consumers think of CLA as only a preventative type supplement, as in, it will only prevent you from getting fatter. On the contrary, it is quite and effective fat loss ingredient on its own, and the majority of the human research supports this.

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf,
If I wanted perhaps to get a free sample of this new CLA EE, or a free bottle then log the hell out of my use, who would I have to talk to? I am impartial to CLA and CLA EE, and I think would be a perfect candidate to try CLA EE, then perhaps CLA and give my results in a log. Hopefully giving people an educated look at the affects of both.

Paul
 
paulygon said:
Primordial Perf,
If I wanted perhaps to get a free sample of this new CLA EE, or a free bottle then log the hell out of my use, who would I have to talk to? I am impartial to CLA and CLA EE, and I think would be a perfect candidate to try CLA EE, then perhaps CLA and give my results in a log. Hopefully giving people an educated look at the affects of both.

Paul
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Opps.. missed this one.

We might be able to do something like this, but it would require at least a couple bottles to notice a significant difference. If using the same dose of isomers, I doubt you would notice a difference between the CLA EE and plain CLA.

-Pp
 
interesting, never knew about the fat cell apoptosis. I drink only raw milk I get from a farm and from what I understand it has a good amount of CLA in it, much more so than the dead milk most buy at the store.
 
StanChampion said:
interesting, never knew about the fat cell apoptosis. I drink only raw milk I get from a farm and from what I understand it has a good amount of CLA in it, much more so than the dead milk most buy at the store.
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This is true, especially if its grass fed cow.

-Pp
 
StanChampion said:
interesting, never knew about the fat cell apoptosis. I drink only raw milk I get from a farm and from what I understand it has a good amount of CLA in it, much more so than the dead milk most buy at the store.
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You're so lucky! In the state I'm in it's illegal to sell raw milk, but I can buy all the cigs, alcohol, and sugary sweets I want! And to think in school they told us we live in a free country(the government can freely f**k you). I guess it's good for the protein manufacturers, because if I could get raw milk I'd never drink another protein shake, or buy cla, bcaas, creatine, you get the picture.
 
its illegal here for human consumption too (florida) but you can buy the raw milk for animal consumption....
 
Ethyl Ester CLA......


Jeez, f**king BCAAEE, CEE, BAEE, LeucineEE, everything EE nowadays

Most EE products give me stomach discomfort, so I won't be trying this.
 
Grant said:
Ethyl Ester CLA......


Jeez, f**king BCAAEE, CEE, BAEE, LeucineEE, everything EE nowadays

Most EE products give me stomach discomfort, so I won't be trying this.
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Oh, you'll be buying and trying creakic ethyl chealated esterific peg gamma-obol... and you'll like it mister. Or else...
 
daniel35 said:
You're so lucky! In the state I'm in it's illegal to sell raw milk, but I can buy all the cigs, alcohol, and sugary sweets I want! And to think in school they told us we live in a free country(the government can freely f**k you). I guess it's good for the protein manufacturers, because if I could get raw milk I'd never drink another protein shake, or buy cla, bcaas, creatine, you get the picture.
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I am in Michigan and it is illegal to buy raw milk. However, we have these cow share programs. I buy a share in the cow and then I collect the milk from "my" cow on a weekly basis. OH there is also a boarding fee. It is really crazy that there are laws on the sale of raw milk. There have actually been more cases of listeria and e.coli in pasteurized milk lately. The store bought milk is just dead milk, much from diseased, hormone infested, drug loaded cows.

We also make our own yogurt from the raw milk. Cheap easy and GREAT!
 
CryingEmo said:
Oh, you'll be buying and trying creakic ethyl chealated esterific peg gamma-obol... and you'll like it mister. Or else...
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There is a new version out already bro, get with the times

creakic ethyl chealated esterific peg gamma-obol hardcore
 
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-Pp
 
I will probably try this myself when budget permits along with some sustain alpha and dermatherm.
 
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