mass on my arms...

Beandorf

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Hiya folks Im 22 and looking to put some mass on my arms...Basically I always cut down and had the 6 pack but my arms werent that great...Im thinking about starting Hydroxycut/Incarnate and maybe some NO explode as a little stack to put some solid muscle on me but be able to keep my stomach the way I like it...Im 5'10 and weigh 185 at about 9-11% bf right now and if its possible I wanna be like 185-195 of muscle and like 4-6% body fat...in the next 4-5 months...If there are any other supps that might be helpful for my goal id appreciate it.

Thanks
 
Try searching the forum for tips on putting on mass, instead of sitting at your computer waiting for someone else to do it for you.
 
Do you squat and deadlift? Typical rule of thumb is that you'll have to gain about 15-20 pounds to gain an inch of arm size. The rest is genetics. There is a reason that all of the guys doin the frat workout don't all have huge arms even though all they do is biceps seemingly.
 
thx rugger...yeah started doing some deadlifting and squats about a month ago...hate doing em but if it helps me then sure lol
 
Hiya folks Im 22 and looking to put some mass on my arms...Basically I always cut down and had the 6 pack but my arms werent that great...Im thinking about starting Hydroxycut/Incarnate and maybe some NO explode as a little stack to put some solid muscle on me but be able to keep my stomach the way I like it...Im 5'10 and weigh 185 at about 9-11% bf right now and if its possible I wanna be like 185-195 of muscle and like 4-6% body fat...in the next 4-5 months...If there are any other supps that might be helpful for my goal id appreciate it.

Thanks

Hey, it seems that your metabolism is already top-notch, so if i were you i wouldnt bother taking the hydroxycut. you would most likely just gain back the 5% body fat not long after finishing the hydroxycut. just do abs and run 2 or 3 times a week. Ive used no-xplode and it worked pretty good, really put me in the zone, but it has a lot of stims. I would look into shock therapy, ragnarok, superpump250, or a green Mag/White Flood stack. Dont forget the whey and a multi and lots of food and water of course!
 
I'd leave the Hydroxycut out... make sure diet is clean, increase calories slightly above current status, and go w/ RPM instead of NO-Xplode. Incarnate is a very valid addition as well. Neovar would make an amazing addition considering the info you provided so far.
As far as gains on arm size, you'll need to experiment w/ various exercises. Hit the biceps from different angles (incline, spider, standing, cable, cable preacher, etc.) AND be sure to do the same for the Triceps.
The bi's work as a supporting muscle to the lats on pulling movements, so be sure to hit your back hard and heavy as well.
There's no secret to it.... just a lot of hard work to find what does it for you as an individual. Personally: My bi's got stronger and stronger but never seemed to grow much in size until I included exercises to allow maximum stress while in the final 1/4 of the curling movement (cable preacher and Spider).
 
How are you training your arms beandorf?

In my honest opinion, people have a strong tendency to train their arms too much.
 
Is this where we recommend dat der cell tech?

In all seriousness, there was a good post a few days back....

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I adjusted my routine after reading that and my biceps were actually sore the next day. That never happens.

In my honest opinion, people have a strong tendency to train their arms too much.

Agreed. But how else can I sell tickets to the gun show? No one wants to see a pair Deringers. They want Desert Eagles, YEAH BOI!!!
 
How are you training your arms beandorf?

In my honest opinion, people have a strong tendency to train their arms too much.

Very true. There's always the guys you see each trip to the gym doing 10 sets each of bench and bar curls. 5 days/week. With the same weight for the past 3 years.
 
Actually, a little bit of creatine monohydrate can do some great things adding size to the arms in the terms of cell volumization.
 
Actually, a little bit of creatine monohydrate can do some great things adding size to the arms in the terms of cell volumization.

And bulk monohydrate is cheaper than cell tech....and lacks the 75g of sugar. I'm pretty sure monohydrate needs sugar, but not at levels of diabetic proportion.
 
It doesn't need sugar. A little insulin will help to shuttle the aminos into the cells, but you can accomplish this by eating food an hour or two before taking creatine.
 
My bi's got stronger and stronger but never seemed to grow much in size until I included exercises to allow maximum stress while in the final 1/4 of the curling movement (cable preacher and Spider).

You got a lot of good advice in this thread (ex. Deads & Squats & putting on more body mass)...but this part of Lanebane's advice is something you won't read/hear a lot and IMHO it is spot on.
 
Def a lot of good advice here but based on what you want in 4-5 months it's unrealistic. Without anabolic steroids and by that I mean PH"s as well it's damn near impossible unless you have freak like genetics. Now I'm not endorsing you go out and break the law (AAS) I"m just being real with you in terms of expectations. But don't get down there are quite of few supps that can help you get close that can be found at Nutra, I would just run a search or even go to Nutraplanet and read up on some supps then check out logs and or reviews here.
 
You got a lot of good advice in this thread (ex. Deads & Squats & putting on more body mass)...but this part of Lanebane's advice is something you won't read/hear a lot and IMHO it is spot on.

DatBtrue. Really... it be true ;)

Thanks man!
 
Well thesinner I havent started up yet again but Ill be starting again soon within the next couple weeks and I for biec/tricep i usually start off with seated curls or standing with cables and alternate arms...next i will use maybe a machine or just do barbell curls...maybe some low weight high rep dumbells to finish off...tries ill do some pull downs or overhead pullovers...some dips...triangle pushups...

Yeah I understand gaining 10lbs and getting ripped is hard in 4-5 months but I guess id be happy staying at my own weight right now...just cutting down bodyfat and having some solid muscle on me...wont brag or talk down about myself either but I do have good genetics...my picture you see is after 2-3 months and it was the first few months ive ever worked out aside from sports...never actually hit a gym for more than 1 week straight until last summer...

My stomach is important to me and as long as I can have decent size arms and a six back im a happy camper...right now as far as supplements Im looking at NO-xplode or RPM...with Incarnate and whey protein...maybe some CGTmax..(creatine/glutamine/taurine) mix...

As far as diet I usually eat 2-3 egg whites with 2-3 slices of turkey and orange juice with my megaman sport multivitamins and a bowl of fruit...

2-3 hours later ill eat a bowl of tuna with a bananna or something..

For lunch ill make myself a wheat wrap with like turkey/cottage cheese..lettuce and maybe a protein shake...

hour before i work out ill down the noexplode or rpm with my incarnate and stuff...go work out and come home to a protein drink and maybe something small like a yogurt with it...

dinner ill eat chicken/broccoli with some brown rice...

2-3 hours before sleep ill take a protein shake with apples cut up with some peanutbutter on em.

Throughout the day I add like 20-25gs of BCAA into a gallon of water and finish that throughout the day...

Hows it sound? lol
 
It looks like you have a solid foundation and I think it's smart to shoot for keeping your BF% in check while adding quality lean mass. Worry about really shredding up come May, for now lean bulk.
 
It looks like you have a solid foundation and I think it's smart to shoot for keeping your BF% in check while adding quality lean mass. Worry about really shredding up come May, for now lean bulk.

Thx jminis that has always been my goal to really get lean mass and remain a decent BF...Ill try that and just workout hard for a couple months and really start cutting around april/may. and lean bulking is a great word which brings me to my next question...Im looking to lean bulk...figure to do a lean bulk would 3-4 sets of around reps starting at 12 be good...like barely get out the 12th...increase and do 10 and then increase again and do 8...i usually do that method with all my exercises
 
Pyramid is good, but honestly different things work for different people. If that technique has done you well then continue, but make sure you throw some shock techniques in there every once in a while like dropsets and such.
 
How is your PWO nutrition?

Look at doing a stack of Creatine, Kwick Karb and high dose Leucine/BCAAs as a starting point.
 
Stop worrying about supplements. Squatting and deadlifting will take care of your arms. Just make sure you are lifting heavy and backing the lifts with enough calories.
 
When it comes to arms I actually gain best training them 2 to 3x/week rather than once a week like other bodyparts.
 
How is your PWO nutrition?

Look at doing a stack of Creatine, Kwick Karb and high dose Leucine/BCAAs as a starting point.

The BCAA's I have I have been adding like 4-5 scoops into a gallon of water and drinking it throughout the day...figure 20-25g of BCAA is good enough yes? or up it?...creatine i might start the CGTmax or the creatine mono from nutraplanet...

Another small issue I have with working out my arms is that I am AFRAID to lift with my right arm because it is noticeably larger than my left one...I can bang out 8-12 reps of a 40lb dumbell with my right arm and do like 3-4 with my left arm...So i try to sometimes ignore my left arm and just use my right...impossible if im doing barbell curls...watching in the mirror i can see the veins and the bicep in my right arm while lifting and my left arm kind of sits there like its not doing any work no matter how much i focus on using it...I think it just burns out a lot quicker than my right arm and becomes like jello and is useless
 
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Is this where we recommend dat der cell tech?

In all seriousness, there was a good post a few days back....

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I adjusted my routine after reading that and my biceps were actually sore the next day. That never happens.



Agreed. But how else can I sell tickets to the gun show? No one wants to see a pair Deringers. They want Desert Eagles, YEAH BOI!!!
Any chance there is an equally good triceps workout?
 
^skullkrushers and tricep pulldowns do wonders for me. 3 sets of each.

i have a question concerning deadlifts and squats though. I used to them a lot and heavily in high school for football training but in college now, i don't do so as much, possibly close to none. I'm very intrigued about this need to do deadlifts and squats to gain mass, but i can i get an explanation? i deifnitely will start doing them again to gain mass, but why is it so?

and if these two work outs are important to gaining mass, will cleans also be a good substitute for my alternate leg days??
 
Well thesinner I havent started up yet again but Ill be starting again soon within the next couple weeks and I for biec/tricep i usually start off with seated curls or standing with cables and alternate arms...next i will use maybe a machine or just do barbell curls...maybe some low weight high rep dumbells to finish off...tries ill do some pull downs or overhead pullovers...some dips...triangle pushups...
You see, in my opinion, bi's and tri's are too small of muscle groups to be trained solely. I usually split up my arms between chest and back days. Do 'em with a bigger muscle group I say. Even if you've got Valentino-caliber arms (but they're somehow natural?) that's not gonna generate nearly as large of an anabolic response as compared to training concurrently with a muscle group like your back.

As Vince Gironda did with the original Mr. Olympia, Larry Scott, arms were done following a round of heavy squats. Why? Because arms are a pussy musclegroup. There. I said it.

Jaws tend to drop when I say I only do one working set of curls per week. Needless to say, however, I make that one set f*cking count. The last drop of wisdom I'll shed here is this; it's not how much your workout that gives you the results, it's how much harder you push yourself each time around. ;)

Yeah I understand gaining 10lbs and getting ripped is hard in 4-5 months but I guess id be happy staying at my own weight right now...just cutting down bodyfat and having some solid muscle on me...wont brag or talk down about myself either but I do have good genetics...my picture you see is after 2-3 months and it was the first few months ive ever worked out aside from sports...never actually hit a gym for more than 1 week straight until last summer...

My stomach is important to me and as long as I can have decent size arms and a six back im a happy camper...right now as far as supplements Im looking at NO-xplode or RPM...with Incarnate and whey protein...maybe some CGTmax..(creatine/glutamine/taurine) mix...

As far as diet I usually eat 2-3 egg whites with 2-3 slices of turkey and orange juice with my megaman sport multivitamins and a bowl of fruit...

2-3 hours later ill eat a bowl of tuna with a bananna or something..

For lunch ill make myself a wheat wrap with like turkey/cottage cheese..lettuce and maybe a protein shake...

hour before i work out ill down the noexplode or rpm with my incarnate and stuff...go work out and come home to a protein drink and maybe something small like a yogurt with it...

dinner ill eat chicken/broccoli with some brown rice...

2-3 hours before sleep ill take a protein shake with apples cut up with some peanutbutter on em.

Throughout the day I add like 20-25gs of BCAA into a gallon of water and finish that throughout the day...

Hows it sound? lol

Are you eating the lunchmeat turkey that comes in slices? Every wonder why it looks totally different than the turkey you get at Thanksgiving? It goes through a rigorous protein denaturing process to make it gel up and conglomerate into a giant "Turkey McNugget" (so to speak) where it is then sliced, packaged, and sent to your local grocer.

If you opt for an alternative protein source, I think you will find some better results. Just my opinion. I'm not one who's sold on lunch meats as a staple protein source.
 
You see, in my opinion, bi's and tri's are too small of muscle groups to be trained solely. I usually split up my arms between chest and back days. Do 'em with a bigger muscle group I say. Even if you've got Valentino-caliber arms (but they're somehow natural?) that's not gonna generate nearly as large of an anabolic response as compared to training concurrently with a muscle group like your back.

As Vince Gironda did with the original Mr. Olympia, Larry Scott, arms were done following a round of heavy squats. Why? Because arms are a pussy musclegroup. There. I said it.

Jaws tend to drop when I say I only do one working set of curls per week. Needless to say, however, I make that one set f*cking count. The last drop of wisdom I'll shed here is this; it's not how much your workout that gives you the results, it's how much harder you push yourself each time around. ;)



Are you eating the lunchmeat turkey that comes in slices? Every wonder why it looks totally different than the turkey you get at Thanksgiving? It goes through a rigorous protein denaturing process to make it gel up and conglomerate into a giant "Turkey McNugget" (so to speak) where it is then sliced, packaged, and sent to your local grocer.

If you opt for an alternative protein source, I think you will find some better results. Just my opinion. I'm not one who's sold on lunch meats as a staple protein source.

So you are saying during my chest/back days at the end throw in a few sets of bis during back and tris during chest days...that makes sense :P

And yeah i usually get the sliced turkey from the deli or what ill do is buy one of those miniature chickens and eat that lol...My diet is important I just dont have the time during the day to make special meals and stuff so usually ill just slam some turkey or chicken in a wrap or tuna and lots of lettuce or whatever....i try to eat 5-6 times a day and just eat clean foods...only thing dripping from anything i eat is water or cottage cheese :P
 
ya just like these guys said
benching and sqwating put sooo much stress on your body evrything wants to grow to over come the stress that sqwats and benching and even deadlifting put on you body

i will admit used to work my arms all the time sure they got bigger but not like the pros and i always wonderd why, then i read some thing like the work out in this article then my arms really changed
good luck tho
 
just incase no one saw my post on page 1:
i have a question concerning deadlifts and squats though. I used to them a lot and heavily in high school for football training but in college now, i don't do so as much, possibly close to none. I'm very intrigued about this need to do deadlifts and squats to gain mass, but i can i get an explanation? i deifnitely will start doing them again to gain mass, but why is it so?

and if these two work outs are important to gaining mass, will cleans also be a good substitute for my alternate leg days??
 
just incase no one saw my post on page 1:
i have a question concerning deadlifts and squats though. I used to them a lot and heavily in high school for football training but in college now, i don't do so as much, possibly close to none. I'm very intrigued about this need to do deadlifts and squats to gain mass, but i can i get an explanation? i deifnitely will start doing them again to gain mass, but why is it so?

and if these two work outs are important to gaining mass, will cleans also be a good substitute for my alternate leg days??

This is just one of the ways Squats and Deadlifts do it, but here it is:

"Super"-compound exercises, like Deadlifts, Squats, clean & jerks, snatches, and cleans cause for an immense recruitment of musclefibers. This in turn will cause for higher levels of IGF-BP3, a dormant form of IGF.

So let's say you come to the day you're working out your arm, you're doing curls. Near the end of your curling set, the body starts to release lactic acid. Well, lactic acid strips the binding protein from IGF-BP3, thus activating it in your biceps. Pretty cool, huh?

There ya go.
 
Why would you take Hydroxycut to put mass on the arms? Just eat a lot of chicken/meat/fish, good protein, get your veggies in there too, and carbs since u wanna gain. forget all the no xplode bull****, that wont put on nething. Get a multi, protein, and fish oil, and creatine if you want.
 
^skullkrushers and tricep pulldowns do wonders for me. 3 sets of each.

i have a question concerning deadlifts and squats though. I used to them a lot and heavily in high school for football training but in college now, i don't do so as much, possibly close to none. I'm very intrigued about this need to do deadlifts and squats to gain mass, but i can i get an explanation? i deifnitely will start doing them again to gain mass, but why is it so?

and if these two work outs are important to gaining mass, will cleans also be a good substitute for my alternate leg days??

It's all about total number of muscle fibers activated as am overall growth stimulus...not to mention that you are usually lifting extremely heavy (another full body stimulus), using almost every muscle in your body to stabilize and maintain form.

Heavy lifts (squats, deads, etc) have also been shown to raise test levels.
 
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