TripDogs end of the year cycle....."Operation Bananas"is in full effect!!

do you support the "Banana Cult",and "Gwen Stefani"


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Any of u guys want to trade with me??

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i like rpm for this. doesn't seem to give me a huge crash or anything. i get all heated up too, like pissed off when i take it. its like instant aggression or some sh1t. but too much = not a good idea.
RPM is solid.

I prefer Spike Shooters.
 
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Try Easy. I am sure he will be all over it.
 
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Any of u guys want to trade with me??

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I just got a sample packet of purple wrath. I'll trade you haha
 
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ok homies, i;ve got a fresh batch of hot steamy reps.

"Come get 'em boys"


(fresh rep points, straight from the oven)
 
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ok homies, i;ve got a fresh batch of hot steamy reps.

"Come get 'em boys"


(fresh rep points, straight from the oven)
We decided we're are prolly goin to try and use our reps for good from now on. But honestly, i have been posting more in the supp section and camp the nutrition one...well. Supp i dont used to get reps but everyone is gone that i used to converse with alot. And nutrition i either kow it(not to sound cocky) or it is easy and someone covers it quickly.....in light of that.....

Please rep me...haha jus kiddin
but not really....go ahead.....
(anyone? anyone? know what movie?)
 
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We decided we're are prolly goin to try and use our reps for good from now on. But honestly, i have been posting more in the supp section and camp the nutrition one...well. Supp i dont used to get reps but everyone is gone that i used to converse with alot. And nutrition i either kow it(not to sound cocky) or it is easy and someone covers it quickly.....in light of that.....

Please rep me...haha jus kiddin
but not really....go ahead.....
(anyone? anyone? know what movie?)
I didnt actually say i was giving them out for free, i just said "come get em.." :p

But...if you were to post something of value, i.e a funny smiley, i may decide to rep...

I mean i cant keep these fresh reps out too long, they will go stale and old, and i will have to give them all to trip...
 
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Dam I am finally caught up. Yall post a shat ton once I go to bed. Does anyone else have a job and other responsibilities? I feel like I'm living in crazy land!

Anyway in regards to the whole Epi and PA conversation I missed. Epi has been confirmed by another guy on another board who also is as knowledgable as PA that Epi is in fact the steroid trenbolone.

So not only has PA confirmed this but so has another respected bro who from my knowledge has no affiliation with another company.

Also as an FYI the person who did the testing said that it appears there are two different epi's floating around. He stated there also were no lot numbers on his bottles.

Finally not trying to cause drama just stating the other info on this issue.
 
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Dam I am finally caught up. Yall post a shat ton once I go to bed. Does anyone else have a job and other responsibilities? I feel like I'm living in crazy land!

Anyway in regards to the whole Epi and PA conversation I missed. Epi has been confirmed by another guy on another board who also is as knowledgable as PA that Epi is in fact the steroid trenbolone.

So not only has PA confirmed this but so has another respected bro who from my knowledge has no affiliation with another company.

Also as an FYI the person who did the testing said that it appears there are two different epi's floating around. He stated there also were no lot numbers on his bottles.

Finally not trying to cause drama just stating the other info on this issue.
interesting
 
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Dam I am finally caught up. Yall post a shat ton once I go to bed. Does anyone else have a job and other responsibilities? I feel like I'm living in crazy land!

Anyway in regards to the whole Epi and PA conversation I missed. Epi has been confirmed by another guy on another board who also is as knowledgable as PA that Epi is in fact the steroid trenbolone.

So not only has PA confirmed this but so has another respected bro who from my knowledge has no affiliation with another company.

Also as an FYI the person who did the testing said that it appears there are two different epi's floating around. He stated there also were no lot numbers on his bottles.

Finally not trying to cause drama just stating the other info on this issue.

cany ou link to that thread so i can keep up on it...?
 
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Why not bro?
Several errors were made. I emailed CS though. Dont wanna say anymore about it until it gets fully resolved. I am just upset though cause I was ordering for a close friend who would rather shop at GNC so now she is gonna think I'm an idiot...
 
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is asprin toxic at all??

WHAT happens if you take caffeine,epehdra.....AND a nitric oxide booster????????.....you would then be taking a vaso-constricter,and a vaso-diolator.........I do every workout and get CRAZY pumps,and vascularity.............not like jomi's stay on for a year and cant move without asprin....
Aspirin can be quite dangerous at high doses or consistent use of moderate dose. As I had mentioned earlier, Hemophelia and Stomach Ulcerations are a major concern. Arthritis patients have had such strong ulcerations that they've died from it. What a way to go, your stomach lining wears so thing that your stomach starts to digest itself and you (internally) bleed to death. :morbidly gruesome:

Caffeine is not 100% a vasoconstrictor as so many believe it to be. It can and will cause for peripheral vasodialation.
 
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Arthritis patients have had such strong ulcerations that they've died from it. What a way to go, your stomach lining wears so thing that your stomach starts to digest itself and you (internally) bleed to death. :morbidly gruesome:
they are taking the aspirin because their cartillage wore too thin, but that causes the stomach lining to wear thing. Sort of ironic, in a painful way
 
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E - Prop arrived, much appreciation my friend!

Ah, my REP powers are built back up...
 
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Where the hell is BombBoogie?? Im tryin to hunt you down boy!
 
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wait wait wait.... EPI = TREN??? wtf???? i have two bottles of havoc, so i have two bottles of tren?? i'm f'in confused t-rav!
 
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wait wait wait.... EPI = TREN??? wtf???? i have two bottles of havoc, so i have two bottles of tren?? i'm f'in confused t-rav!
No no! I am not saying that at all. As of right now I think havoc is actually what it says it is. The guy who did the testing stated he had two Epi bottles. One had tan powder and one had white. He tested both, and the tan = tren, the white he said appeared to be the correct compound. His thought was that their quality control was poor and their raws were just not what they thought they were.

Needless to say this is just another instance where we really have no clue wtf is in some of these designers.
 
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That's sad really - and shady.

No no! I am not saying that at all. As of right now I think havoc is actually what it says it is. The guy who did the testing stated he had two Epi bottles. One had tan powder and one had white. He tested both, and the tan = tren, the white he said appeared to be the correct compound. His thought was that their quality control was poor and their raws were just not what they thought they were.

Needless to say this is just another instance where we really have no clue wtf is in some of these designers.
 
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No no! I am not saying that at all. As of right now I think havoc is actually what it says it is. The guy who did the testing stated he had two Epi bottles. One had tan powder and one had white. He tested both, and the tan = tren, the white he said appeared to be the correct compound. His thought was that their quality control was poor and their raws were just not what they thought they were.

Needless to say this is just another instance where we really have no clue wtf is in some of these designers.
:goodpost:

Especially nowdays with these cheap knockoffs, i mean if the price is low, them something in the production process has to give... i.e lower cost = lower quality.

Same with everything in life. You get what you pay for.
 
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Especially nowdays with these cheap knockoffs, i mean if the price is low, them something in the production process has to give... i.e lower cost = lower quality.

Same with everything in life. You get what you pay for.
you get what you pay for is a horrible statement

things called sales are just that, sales.... doesnt mean they are pushing bad products

CEL is a great company, they happened to possible make 1-2 bad batch numbers because they lacked to test possible one shipment or something

yes its horrible, but only half of their line of great products were hurt, it seems so far anyways

and just cuz

company 1 is 20bucks

company 2 is 50bucks

company 3 is 30bucks

that dont mean 2>3>1 in terms of quality
 
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Well I guess these days unless you have your own testing equipment you just have to go into every cycle prepared. Thats really the only thing average users like us can do...and stay informed. Buy from quality companies.
 
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you get what you pay for is a horrible statement

things called sales are just that, sales.... doesnt mean they are pushing bad products

CEL is a great company, they happened to possible make 1-2 bad batch numbers because they lacked to test possible one shipment or something

yes its horrible, but only half of their line of great products were hurt, it seems so far anyways

and just cuz

company 1 is 20bucks

company 2 is 50bucks

company 3 is 30bucks

that dont mean 2>3>1 in terms of quality
bro it was a general statement not aimed at CEL.

And in general yes, cost is a big factor in quality.

i.e toyota = mass produced car, regular quality etc..
i.e lamborghini = hand made car, high quality, etc...

walmart brand = cheap, usually made by competitor manufacturer and missing some ingredients so its not as good, cheaper to produce = lower end cost.

original brand = higher quality, complete ingredients, higher cost to produce = higher end cost

From a business point of view bro, the reason alot of companies charge more is because they a) make less of a product so it is of higher quality, b) they user a higher quality of standards in production.

This rule DOES NOT apply to all companies, but the vast majority of times it does.
 
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had a nice little response but deleted it

you cannot compare a toyota to a lamborgini lol
 
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Agreed. Why can some companies make something for cheaper than other companies? - Production costs. Now, granted some companies may actually be able to get a better price on stuff (in our example it would be raw powders) but that is an exception.

Mashed is right, nyc is wrong
1. better price for stuff is one factor

2. monoplies in reguards to owning the processing plants needed, and transportion menus needed to get product a into and finished to product b said final product

didnt you watch american gangsta

buy the stuff from foreign lands not the cops, sell for cheaper and better quality haha
 
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Especially nowdays with these cheap knockoffs, i mean if the price is low, them something in the production process has to give... i.e lower cost = lower quality.

Same with everything in life. You get what you pay for.
Ummm isn't epistane the most expensive, and the original?
 
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quality wise though toyota is one of the best. (in everyday cars)

I would have said ford:hammer:


bro it was a general statement not aimed at CEL.

And in general yes, cost is a big factor in quality.

i.e toyota = mass produced car, regular quality etc..
i.e lamborghini = hand made car, high quality, etc...

walmart brand = cheap, usually made by competitor manufacturer and missing some ingredients so its not as good, cheaper to produce = lower end cost.

original brand = higher quality, complete ingredients, higher cost to produce = higher end cost

From a business point of view bro, the reason alot of companies charge more is because they a) make less of a product so it is of higher quality, b) they user a higher quality of standards in production.

This rule DOES NOT apply to all companies, but the vast majority of times it does.
 
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had a nice little response but deleted it

you cannot compare a toyota to a lamborgini lol
lol, i was making a point.
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btw any of you guys seen that new model where they are only making like 20 of them...

Lamborghini Revento i think.

 
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quality wise though toyota is one of the best. (in everyday cars)

I would have said ford:hammer:
Ford beats Toyota in quality rankings
Automaker takes lead spot in five of 19 segments in survey

David Zalubowski / AP file
“What we saw today is the result of several years of adhering to our design and manufacturing processes with complete discipline,” Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari said of the automaker's finish. “It took some time for the results to be evident.”

Ford revs up quality
June 6: Ford's President of its Americas division Mark Fields discusses the automaker's strong showing in a key quality survey.
CNBC


updated 7:24 p.m. ET, Wed., June. 6, 2007
DETROIT - People might have to stop making all those jokes about the quality of Ford’s cars — the ones that say Ford stands for “Found on Road Dead” or “Fixed or Repaired Daily.”

Now, it could be “Fixing Our Reputation Daily.”

Ford Motor Co. supplanted Toyota as leader of the pack in J.D. Power and Associates’ annual initial quality rankings released Wednesday, grabbing more individual awards than any other automaker for the first time since 1998, when it tied for the top spot.
 
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bro it was a general statement not aimed at CEL.

And in general yes, cost is a big factor in quality.

i.e toyota = mass produced car, regular quality etc..
i.e lamborghini = hand made car, high quality, etc...

walmart brand = cheap, usually made by competitor manufacturer and missing some ingredients so its not as good, cheaper to produce = lower end cost.

original brand = higher quality, complete ingredients, higher cost to produce = higher end cost

From a business point of view bro, the reason alot of companies charge more is because they a) make less of a product so it is of higher quality, b) they user a higher quality of standards in production.

This rule DOES NOT apply to all companies, but the vast majority of times it does.
Toyota and Lamborghini are two different class of vehicle therefore price reflects this. Not to mention that Toyota is hands down a high quality vehicle in it's class.

Walmart and the other non branded names are cheaper because they are no name brands. They are cheaper because you are not paying for a name. Often times the same brand name manufacturer produces the products and can sell it to a high volume no name brand company even at a discounted price because they can make up for it in volume in sales. They both profit.

Example...sesathin is sesathin is sesame extract. Avant sesathin is a name brand sesathin which is sesame extract and is very cost defective IMO. NutraPlanet (the no name brand) purchases the product from Avant at a huge volume, getting a price break and then in turn sells it to you at a discount price with a no name brand and moves greater volume of sesathin. The consumer, the retailer and the manufacture profit because of the volume that this allows them to move. This has no impact on the quality of the product whatsoever.

There are many examples of this in manufacturing from cosmetics to clothing to auto parts, engine oils, tires, sodas and so on.

You pay for name recognition because it costs to earn that name recognition with name brand marketing and name brand reputation. That is not quality that is reputation or recognition.
 
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Ford beats Toyota in quality rankings
Automaker takes lead spot in five of 19 segments in survey

David Zalubowski / AP file
“What we saw today is the result of several years of adhering to our design and manufacturing processes with complete discipline,” Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari said of the automaker's finish. “It took some time for the results to be evident.”

Ford revs up quality
June 6: Ford's President of its Americas division Mark Fields discusses the automaker's strong showing in a key quality survey.
CNBC


updated 7:24 p.m. ET, Wed., June. 6, 2007
DETROIT - People might have to stop making all those jokes about the quality of Ford’s cars — the ones that say Ford stands for “Found on Road Dead” or “Fixed or Repaired Daily.”

Now, it could be “Fixing Our Reputation Daily.”

Ford Motor Co. supplanted Toyota as leader of the pack in J.D. Power and Associates’ annual initial quality rankings released Wednesday, grabbing more individual awards than any other automaker for the first time since 1998, when it tied for the top spot.
All nice and everything, but can you PLEASE tell that to my car.... it seems to think the FIXED OR REPAIRED DAILY rule still applies...

 
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Ford beats Toyota in quality rankings
Automaker takes lead spot in five of 19 segments in survey

David Zalubowski / AP file
“What we saw today is the result of several years of adhering to our design and manufacturing processes with complete discipline,” Ford spokeswoman Anne Marie Gattari said of the automaker's finish. “It took some time for the results to be evident.”

Ford revs up quality
June 6: Ford's President of its Americas division Mark Fields discusses the automaker's strong showing in a key quality survey.
CNBC


updated 7:24 p.m. ET, Wed., June. 6, 2007
DETROIT - People might have to stop making all those jokes about the quality of Ford’s cars — the ones that say Ford stands for “Found on Road Dead” or “Fixed or Repaired Daily.”

Now, it could be “Fixing Our Reputation Daily.”

Ford Motor Co. supplanted Toyota as leader of the pack in J.D. Power and Associates’ annual initial quality rankings released Wednesday, grabbing more individual awards than any other automaker for the first time since 1998, when it tied for the top spot.


oh sweet! Cause I love those new mustangs.. thanks for settin me straight!
 
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does anybody know what "brand" the nutraplanet creatine mono is? I keep hearing the german creapure is the best And I want to get it but... Its hard to turn down the $12 per kilo on nutra
 
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Damn that Lambo is sweet. I'm starting a charity fund now. Its called "Help Travis buy this Lambo" send your donations to:

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Toyota and Lamborghini are two different class of vehicle therefore price reflects this. Not to mention that Toyota is hands down a high quality vehicle in it's class.

Walmart and the other non branded names are cheaper because they are no name brands. They are cheaper because you are not paying for a name. Often times the same brand name manufacturer produces the products and can sell it to a high volume no name brand company even at a discounted price because they can make up for it in volume in sales. They both profit.

Example...sesathin is sesathin is sesame extract. Avant sesathin is a name brand sesathin which is sesame extract and is very cost defective IMO. NutraPlanet (the no name brand) purchases the product from Avant at a huge volume, getting a price break and then in turn sells it to you at a discount price with a no name brand and moves greater volume of sesathin. The consumer, the retailer and the manufacture profit because of the volume that this allows them to move. This has no impact on the quality of the product whatsoever.

There are many examples of this in manufacturing from cosmetics to clothing to auto parts, engine oils, tires, sodas and so on.

You pay for name recognition because it costs to earn that name recognition with name brand marketing and name brand reputation. That is not quality that is reputation or recognition.

Im alot of cases, yes you are purely paying for the brand name, and cost of research etc...

But I can also tell you that in alot of cases you are also paying for quality.

I mean a RCA TV vs a SONY TV. which is going to last longer, have more features, better quality picture etc..

I think its just something to take into consideration here when we buy these low cost supplements.

And the WALMART Brand - GREAT VALUE (belongs to walmart) is cheaper, less quality variations of the competitor products it also sells. The great value products are usally made by the brand name products , minus a few ingredients. This is why GREAT BRAND ketchup, doesnt taste like Heinz, when its made by heinz (i think it was heinz ... ). Colgate used to have a slogan a few years back saying "We dont make our toothpaste to anyone else" - thats what they are refering too.
 
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does anybody know what "brand" the nutraplanet creatine mono is? I keep hearing the german creapure is the best And I want to get it but... Its hard to turn down the $12 per kilo on nutra
Their mono is good stuff. I like it. However I am not too happy with their service on my last purchase. :sick:
 
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Damn that Lambo is sweet. I'm starting a charity fund now. Its called "Help Travis buy this Lambo" send your donations to:

Travis
1294 The Pimp Drive
Pimpville, Anywhere USA 55555
you know what, i'm going to donate to this said fund of yours, a gigantic P I M P SLLLAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP! go open up yo mailbox, SLAP B1TCH!!! [in dave chapelle voice]
 
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