Pudz's "Nuttin but a peanut" cycle JOURNAL
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Travis
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Check your BP. Its pry gonna be a lil high just from your workout still. But just to be safe...
pudzian2
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I had some more carbs and the headache faded. I think I was just a little carb depleted.
pudzian2
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--funny ass video.
UPDATE:
My libido has stabilized. It is not overly skyrocketing as it was when the test was beginning to hit my system. I am assuming this is normal---- from my understanding, it makes sense that my body has accepted the consistent high levels of test, shut down its natty production (boys shrunk a bit, so I introduced my HCG protocol), and with the help of my AI, re-established a hormonal equilibrium of some sort. The body favors homeostasis, and I assume it would adjust to consistently higher levels of test once it realizes its not a short term thing (in a matter of speaking). I am assuming this also indicates that the test is completely ON, and now it will start to really blow me up as it now can start exhibiting its effects on my AR's as apposed to just making me superman horny all day long...
I feel even more pumped in the gym, my strength is climbing every workout, and my size is steadily increasing.
I have decided, being pretty confident everything is workout and leveled out now, that I no longer need to restrict my carbohydrate intake, and will now utilize carbs and added calories to get the most out of the test and EQ. The EQ hunger is slightly noticeable now that I have balanced out my carb intake...I have heard it takes up to 8 weeks to SEE the effects of EQ, so I am excited for that added hunger, and vascularity. The small pre-existing lumps under my nipples are shrinking! obviously the AI is doing it's job, i also don't feel too bloated or overly water retentive anymore. I think the addition of 200mg furazadrol for 2 weeks will help everything start to work together nicely. I am surely trimming up ever so slightly, but it is less visually noticeable being that I am retaining a bit of water. (love handles have definitely shrunk to almost nothing.)
--Reason that I feel its time to up the carbs and the calories: I started to definitely feel the compounds working, I decided that my carb intake was not enough to satisfy my glycogen requirements, and I was getting headaches and feeling like crap. THE MINUTE I ATE more CARBS, i felt MUCH better. I am not worried about fat gain at this point because my diet is very clean, I am growing consistently, and everything seems to be working full swing.
--funny ass video.
UPDATE:
My libido has stabilized. It is not overly skyrocketing as it was when the test was beginning to hit my system. I am assuming this is normal---- from my understanding, it makes sense that my body has accepted the consistent high levels of test, shut down its natty production (boys shrunk a bit, so I introduced my HCG protocol), and with the help of my AI, re-established a hormonal equilibrium of some sort. The body favors homeostasis, and I assume it would adjust to consistently higher levels of test once it realizes its not a short term thing (in a matter of speaking). I am assuming this also indicates that the test is completely ON, and now it will start to really blow me up as it now can start exhibiting its effects on my AR's as apposed to just making me superman horny all day long...
I feel even more pumped in the gym, my strength is climbing every workout, and my size is steadily increasing.
I have decided, being pretty confident everything is workout and leveled out now, that I no longer need to restrict my carbohydrate intake, and will now utilize carbs and added calories to get the most out of the test and EQ. The EQ hunger is slightly noticeable now that I have balanced out my carb intake...I have heard it takes up to 8 weeks to SEE the effects of EQ, so I am excited for that added hunger, and vascularity. The small pre-existing lumps under my nipples are shrinking! obviously the AI is doing it's job, i also don't feel too bloated or overly water retentive anymore. I think the addition of 200mg furazadrol for 2 weeks will help everything start to work together nicely. I am surely trimming up ever so slightly, but it is less visually noticeable being that I am retaining a bit of water. (love handles have definitely shrunk to almost nothing.)
--Reason that I feel its time to up the carbs and the calories: I started to definitely feel the compounds working, I decided that my carb intake was not enough to satisfy my glycogen requirements, and I was getting headaches and feeling like crap. THE MINUTE I ATE more CARBS, i felt MUCH better. I am not worried about fat gain at this point because my diet is very clean, I am growing consistently, and everything seems to be working full swing.
sfearl1
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:thumbsup: yes! i'm envious! i need these next few weeks to go by as fast as possible!!!!
pistonpump
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the huge libido boost was from the epi im 99.99999999% sure. now that youve stopped it..its more baseline rather then the skyrocketing you were having.
if your diet is really clean like you posted then you should have a problem upping the carbs/cals a bit, the anabolics need that extra fuel....doesnt mean you will add excessive fat. I say just go for it, eat up! all day, junk too once and awhile, but thats just me eveyone is different
if you can keep it clean then all the power too you, your gains will be cleaner.
if your diet is really clean like you posted then you should have a problem upping the carbs/cals a bit, the anabolics need that extra fuel....doesnt mean you will add excessive fat. I say just go for it, eat up! all day, junk too once and awhile, but thats just me eveyone is different
if you can keep it clean then all the power too you, your gains will be cleaner.
pistonpump
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Still cant believe you already have 18lbs from this cycle! Huge gains already!
pudzian2
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LOL, and its just begun. Not even half way through!
pudzian2
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okay guys. Here is my current idea: I have enough test and EQ to bump the dosages up a little bit for a period of time. I think for about 4-5 weeks I can run 1 gram of test E with about 750mg EQ each week. I was considering doing this around week 8, doing it for about 4 weeks and then soon after week 12, begin to taper off the dosages of each, until its low dose, and then 0 dose which Is when I will introduce another non 17AA oral to keep my gains as the esters clear. I will also start IGF-1 1 week out from post cycle therapy and continue it until week 3 of PCT.
Back to the 4-5 weeks of high dosages. I think what I may do is get my hands on some humalog, and test it out with no more than 5IU PWO with lots of carbs and fast protein. I will use it no more than 4 times a week, probably only 3 times to be safe. I'll just rotate which workout days I use it on using lagging muscles as a priority. I feel its more than safe to use the fast acting insulin with only 1 small dose PWO, but with the higher dosages of androgens, It's effect should be noticeable.
I do not really wish to hear arguments that I'm getting "gain happy" here....my idea is to in the long term use less drugs to achieve my goal. I would rather give insulin a test run while I am already ON androgens, instead of waiting until my next cycle..If i gain and keep more on this cycle. I can wait longer, and rest my body until the next one....therefore in the end there will be less drugs and more time to rest, hopefully with equal or more gains.
any thoughts?
oh yea, in PCT, depending on IGF-1 price, I may throw in some Peg MGF to get more from the IGF-1 but i'll see. IGF has more than doubled in cost from what I can see.
Back to the 4-5 weeks of high dosages. I think what I may do is get my hands on some humalog, and test it out with no more than 5IU PWO with lots of carbs and fast protein. I will use it no more than 4 times a week, probably only 3 times to be safe. I'll just rotate which workout days I use it on using lagging muscles as a priority. I feel its more than safe to use the fast acting insulin with only 1 small dose PWO, but with the higher dosages of androgens, It's effect should be noticeable.
I do not really wish to hear arguments that I'm getting "gain happy" here....my idea is to in the long term use less drugs to achieve my goal. I would rather give insulin a test run while I am already ON androgens, instead of waiting until my next cycle..If i gain and keep more on this cycle. I can wait longer, and rest my body until the next one....therefore in the end there will be less drugs and more time to rest, hopefully with equal or more gains.
any thoughts?
oh yea, in PCT, depending on IGF-1 price, I may throw in some Peg MGF to get more from the IGF-1 but i'll see. IGF has more than doubled in cost from what I can see.
sfearl1
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i personally think that is too much, especially for your first injectable. but if you are that in tune with your body and know exactly what is doing what, then go for it. i know i will be doing more cycles down the road, so i don't feel a need to rush it. but since you have different goals, and want to do as few cycles as possible to reach your goals, then proceed with caution. let us know what you decide!!
pudzian2
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I'll definitely give it some more thought. I am well aware of every side of insulin usage. I would just like to get a few more opinions. hopefully from some who have used it, and can attest to such a small dose being beneficial- 2-5IU PWO once daily (of course from here I would asses my tolerance and reactions.). I just feel it is a very small dose compared to some guys shootin 30-45 IU per day. I have done so much research and continue to learn everyday. I have done a lot of manipulation with my body (diet and training wise, also I do have some experience with hormones, peptides etc), I am confident in knowing how I respond to things up to now. I will definitely not be able to overlook hypo... I have a very solid rela. with my girlfriend who is supportive, and also well versed in everything I do.
I would be even more comfortable with this protocol If I heard from people who have experience with it. I mean, how large is the risk of insulin dependence? I cannot imagine the body's natural insulin secretion would be messed up with such short acting insulin just once a day, during the time the pancreas releases a lot of insulin (PWO, --assuming I were to eat lots of carbs, and protein that get into the system quick) ..
I think i can get a lot out of just 2-5 IU thrice a week in addition to the higher doses of androgens... only for 3-4 weeks, and then its time to taper off, and soon recover during PCT.
sfearl1
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sorry i wanted to clarify after rereading what i wrote. i don't think that is too much insulin (i don't have too much knowledge in that area to be giving advice on it). i think that might be too many things your using in your first cycle. but it sounds like your research is solid. i'm definitely interested though.
pudzian2
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I see where you are coming from but consider this:
I will be no more educated on slin come time for my next cycle.
If i were to use AAS as a base, and with one cycle run IGF-1, another cycle with IGF-1 and Mgf, and another cycle with Slin, then thats 3 cycles, and using compounds that are very synergistic all by themselves.....so I think that would net more drug use, with less results, and be somewhat wasteful.
It isn't as if I am using EVERYTHIng At once during this cycle, becuase i do agree that too much of anything its bad. I just feel that I have a long base of AAS to work with right now, I have the knowledge, the goal in mind, and the tools. I have yet to be convinced of a reason to wait. I know how dangerous insulin can be. But using it alone without AAS, it will not do its job as well, and will require higher doses which are more dangerous. Until more experienced, using Slin with IGF-1 is too dangerous becuase of how IGF increases slin sensitivity and can risk going hyp much easier.
also: my next cycle will be more of a cutter, so using slin then unless I have perfected my diet with slin (which I will not have) etc etc, will not yield great results.
I dont look too far into the future..I am not one to assume that I will need continuous steroid use to get to my goal. I mean, In a sense I may, but I like to approach 1 cycle at a time. and right now I am only focussed on this one; after which, I will be detoxing, maintaining and formulating a plan for my next one.
BUT,
I am still 70%decided to give it a basic trial run now, and slowly tweak it to best fit my body. I mean, once I understand how I react safely to insulin, It will provide me with terrific results, and I will keep them.-- using with AAS will only amplify the process.
I will start with 2IU and work up to 5IU from there. Its only for 3-4 short weeks.
Sfearl and others: I encourage you to continue to criticize my thoughts. It helps me make certain that I wish to try this.
pudzian2
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I am not sure WTF is goin on here. But ever since I upped my carbs. I've felt a lot better, had better workouts. and filled out a bit. the major thing is I HAVE INSATIABLE HUNGER PANGS>...It's like every hour and a half I feel hungry. So I snack on either protein or almonds and then eat my scheduled meals. I know EQ is known for hunger but I thought it would take longer to kick. I dont care tho. I love being able to eat eat eat, gain gain gain.!!
UnrealMachine
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:clap2: sounds like the cycle is coming along well
feed the beast! :burg:
I dont think its EQ yet, takes a hell of a long time to kick, might just be from the test, the lifting, the progress.
pistonpump
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i think you should wait a few weeks before you bump the test and Eq doses up. I did the same during my first test eq run. I like to think the body somewhat adjusts to the high test levels so throwing it off with a higher dose can be benefiecial imo. Its like pulsing an injectable but youre not doing it to avoid shutdown just make more gains.
pudzian2
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Yea I was going to wait until week 8 and then bump it up for 4 weeks and then back down, and then taper off for a week or two until I'm just riding out on ester clearance and orals. What do you think about 2-5IU slin and my reasons for wanting to use it during the 4 weeks of higher androgen doses.
pistonpump
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id say if you know what you are doing then go for it. Only one way to find out.
pudzian2
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yea I have this dex-malto + creatine powder that would work perfect with slin. I will also stock up on some gatorade, coke, and glucose tablets to be extra safe. (maybe a meter but I think I can go by fee. the strips for the meter are very expensive I've heard) My girlfriend and room mate are with me 85% of the day especially after training. I will use it 3-4 times a week and maybe bump the dose up over 5IU if my tolerance allows. Im going to place the order today and give it a shot in two weeks with the higher androgens.
Hank Vangut
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throw down the money and get yourself a meter.
i wouldn't want you to die...and then get all this negative media attention.
next thing you know, they crack down even harder and everyone is small.
i wouldn't want you to die...and then get all this negative media attention.
next thing you know, they crack down even harder and everyone is small.
pudzian2
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True that. i'm all for protecting the BBing community...and the few rights we are beginning to have lol
Hank Vangut
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glucose meter......pudz is talking about adding slin.
UnrealMachine
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Slin scares me bro, be careful
pudzian2
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Yea I know, but I'm not too intimidated by it. I have done a lot of research on the pros and cons, different types, the hypo issue etc etc. I am talking about fast acting slin (humalog) I MAY even inject IM for a quicker hit PWO as I tank down those sugars and protein. I think that could even be safer, unless I go hypo to easily with sub-q (slower onset.) I will try it out at very low doses: 2IU and adjust from there. I feel a sweet spot around 5IU 4 times per week or upwards of 5 but less than 10IU only 3X per week. I will give it a shot and make sure to have glucose tabs, coke, gatorade, fruit juices etc around in case of hypo. I go to the gym with my girl, and my room mate so they will be around me. (room mate will be sure to be aware of my hypo risk and keep his eyes peeled) I
I will of course be training in the MORNING on days that I use slin. no way would I train late at night with slin....
pistonpump
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are you going to post any lift numbers?
pudzian2
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I never usually lift by weight #'s. I'm not one to say "okay this week I benched 315 for 15 and next week Ill bench 330 for 8 or 10" . I just go by feel. I could care less how strong I am, I'd rather just be have a big, shapely and perfected physique. I don't see the lift numbers to be a good gauge of my progress---specifically toward the goal of getting x amount more shoulder development, and z amount more arm development. The numbers are definitely going up. Each day I am stronger, but they don't mean much to me.
pistonpump
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okay. i know what you mean. im pretty much the same way.
pudzian2
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I like bob chic's quote: "It's not how much you can lift, it's how much you LOOK like you can lift." lol
sfearl1
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thats a good quote!
pudzian2
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lol. yes it is
pistonpump
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i was actually referring to the training, most of the time im cant remember what i did last week or whatever i just go with what feels effective. Strength does matter to me I want to be pulling huge weight and still look good.
pudzian2
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Yea I hear that. I agree, it's great to be very strong. I also just go by what's effective, and how I feel that day.
pistonpump
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u start the furaz yet? hows the orals going, im sorry i think i lost track.
pudzian2
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UPDATE: strength is climbing. I never really max out. I just use the most effective weight for the exercise I'm doing and the # of reps I'm doing. Strength is definitely up. Size is starting to get even more noticeable. Its awesome. Everyday I look in the mirror, I look better (just a tad, but its great).--only ending week 6 of 16..
Seems like I'm responding well. I would not doubt if the EQ is taking effect now. My hunger is RIDICULOUS. this week i have sometimes found myself chopping my time between meals in half. Thats like every hour or so eating a full meal of mine. I love it but it's a hassle. I could care less; more food=more muscle.
Also, I'm beginning to see slight increases in vascularity when I'm pumped up. Could be just from dropping a bit of body fat, increase RBC or both. Once I start to see a large difference in Vascularity, I will be sure to check my hematocrit values. (doing bloodwork mid-cycle to check on liver, lipids, e2 etc.)
Seems like I'm responding well. I would not doubt if the EQ is taking effect now. My hunger is RIDICULOUS. this week i have sometimes found myself chopping my time between meals in half. Thats like every hour or so eating a full meal of mine. I love it but it's a hassle. I could care less; more food=more muscle.
Also, I'm beginning to see slight increases in vascularity when I'm pumped up. Could be just from dropping a bit of body fat, increase RBC or both. Once I start to see a large difference in Vascularity, I will be sure to check my hematocrit values. (doing bloodwork mid-cycle to check on liver, lipids, e2 etc.)
pudzian2
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alright. Ended week 6. DEFINITELY noticeable changes in my physique. I saw some people that I haven't seen since the start, and they looked at me like I was a totally different person. The fun has only begun too!
1 week more at these dosages, and then bumping up the doses and giving slin a run through. Still waiting on the slin delivery, hopefully its on time and doesn't screw me up.
1 week more at these dosages, and then bumping up the doses and giving slin a run through. Still waiting on the slin delivery, hopefully its on time and doesn't screw me up.
pistonpump
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nice cycle so far! Im looking forward to blood test results, thats always really good for a log and just in general health. Id like to see what your test numbers are lol. No painful pumps yet? I know it was most likely the EQ that gave me horrible pumps in my forearms for months on end....EQ was nice but im gonna run some nandrolone next, the gains from EQ has me thinking its not so worth it and just upping the test would be better and cheaper.
pudzian2
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yea I cannot say I see much from EQ. I am noticeable more hungry lately. which helps me get more cals in...not sure if that's from EQ or not.
it def will be interesting to see where my test is lol. Doc will be like WHOA there!
I think my next cycle will be test and tren. Im really attracted to tren. And I will most likely be running short esters like ace and prop respectively and just shooting ED....I dont mind it.
pistonpump
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i agree, 18lbs is crazy! I dont ever think i could gain that much.
pudzian2
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Thanks guys. Im just pounding down the cals and I can literally see myself growing every day (subtly). Im finishing out this week and then bumping the dosages of Test and EQ to 1gram and 800mg respectively. I will be using 5-10IU humalog Post Workout for the four week time period that the androgens are dosed higher.
sfearl1
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your going to explode! i want some pics!!!! good luck
pudzian2
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thanks my man. Ill be sure to do a little photo shoot down the road here
pistonpump
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sorry to ask but how much aromasin are you taking ed? Any signs of gyno at all? *knock on wood*