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TripDogs end of the year cycle....."Operation Bananas"is in full effect!!

do you support the "Banana Cult",and "Gwen Stefani"

  • yes!! (the only real answer)

    Votes: 47 75.8%

  • no (please leave your address,sniper take notes)

    Votes: 13 21.0%

  • I only support Jayhawkk and the SnuggleClub™

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Total voters
    62
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Travis said:
How is it different Rosie?
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Umm how isnt it is a more appropriate question... the gains are totally different, the basic effects *hardness/vascularity/strength/slight leaning are all the same, just some more pronounced with tbol vs halo... dude prohormones in a sense LACK big time vs the real deal, that's common knowledge though. like.. M1,4add vs dbol... pffft not even close.
 
RisingAgainst said:
Umm how isnt it is a more appropriate question... the gains are totally different, the basic effects *hardness/vascularity/strength/slight leaning are all the same, just some more pronounced with tbol vs halo... dude prohormones in a sense LACK big time vs the real deal, that's common knowledge though. like.. M1,4add vs dbol... pffft not even close.
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Got it. Your original statement was just very vague and noob like. I needed you to clarify as I do not speak Newb. :trout:
 
Gixxer82 said:
shut your face newb!!
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haha you click the link? its a good picture of H. Duff.

PS. Anybody goin to be watching the UW vs. Oregon game today? Im gonna be there to watch my Huskies Kill Oregon.... or not. But I'll be drunk so it will still be fun anyway
 
RisingAgainst said:
Oral T is so much different than halo though bro... and I only noticed a few random differences between methandrostenelone vs m1,4add.
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structurally, my above post is 100% accurate. I think Hdrol has a lower conversion rate though. The 4-chloro is just chilling there right next to the 3-ol, it's gonna make it tough for stuff to react and take off the proton to activate it. I've never run halodrol, but personally wouldn't run it anything lower than 100mg.

Hdrol = 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
M1,4ADD= 17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
 
NateWA said:
haha you click the link? its a good picture of H. Duff.

PS. Anybody goin to be watching the UW vs. Oregon game today? Im gonna be there to watch my Huskies Kill Oregon.... or not. But I'll be drunk so it will still be fun anyway
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ya it is a good pic of her and her sweet ass!!! man i would tear that up!!!!!! :aargh:
 
thesinner said:
structurally, my above post is 100% accurate. I think Hdrol has a lower conversion rate though. The 4-chloro is just chilling there right next to the 3-ol, it's gonna make it tough for stuff to react and take off the proton to activate it. I've never run halodrol, but personally wouldn't run it anything lower than 100mg.

Hdrol = 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
M1,4ADD= 17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
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what do you think about running halo at 150mg?
 
thesinner said:
structurally, my above post is 100% accurate. I think Hdrol has a lower conversion rate though. The 4-chloro is just chilling there right next to the 3-ol, it's gonna make it tough for stuff to react and take off the proton to activate it. I've never run halodrol, but personally wouldn't run it anything lower than 100mg.

Hdrol = 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
M1,4ADD= 17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
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interesting

thesinner said:
Dude, the east german olympic track team ran 150mg of Tbol. At that rate, though, it would be cheaper to just get tbol.
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wow


sinner- why wouldnt you run halo at lower then 100. i dont know but im assuming many have run it at 50 and 75 and made some good gains maybe not as fast but still gains

running it at higher dose also increases sides right if any from halo and would also cause more rapid weight gain right?

hummmm forgot what i was getting at.. but 150 of tbol wow i have no idea howmuch tbol is gonna see if i can find it anywhere hehe
 
sfearl1 said:
i found this post from unc and had to bring it over here cause its fvcking hilarious!!!
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haha that episode was hillarious.......
 
yea i got plenty here for awhile. I got PPlex but dont think im down for runnin it witht he way it sounds. meh...oh well i only have one anyway.
 
MentalTwitch said:
yea i got plenty here for awhile. I got PPlex but dont think im down for runnin it witht he way it sounds. meh...oh well i only have one anyway.
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dude phera is garbage imo!! to many sides!! why do you think it's so cheap..
 
nycste said:
interesting



wow


sinner- why wouldnt you run halo at lower then 100. i dont know but im assuming many have run it at 50 and 75 and made some good gains maybe not as fast but still gains

running it at higher dose also increases sides right if any from halo and would also cause more rapid weight gain right?

hummmm forgot what i was getting at.. but 150 of tbol wow i have no idea howmuch tbol is gonna see if i can find it anywhere hehe
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common dose for kickstarting a cycle is usually 30-50mg. Of course, when you're trying to win some Gold Medals and the coaches are saying this will not show up on a drugtest, you tend to go a little Tbol overboard.
 
Travis said:
Why didnt you tell me that before I bought it? Hmmm trip. From now on all BDS members will be required to critique my hormone related orders. :rant:
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sorry kristie, i will be yo big daddy hormone over viewer from this point on.....:)
 
thesinner said:
common dose for kickstarting a cycle is usually 30-50mg. Of course, when you're trying to win some Gold Medals and the coaches are saying this will not show up on a drugtest, you tend to go a little Tbol overboard.
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gotcha cool


so in theory is

4 weeks at 100 the same as

8weeks 50 ?
 
sinner...good to see ya with your technical posts.....:dump: :D
 
thesinner said:
common dose for kickstarting a cycle is usually 30-50mg. Of course, when you're trying to win some Gold Medals and the coaches are saying this will not show up on a drugtest, you tend to go a little Tbol overboard.
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the thing with t-bol is that it leaves the system very quick...
 
TripDog said:
dude phera is garbage imo!! to many sides!! why do you think it's so cheap..
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Yea glad i only got one. I dint read to much into it. Prolly sit there forever or go on sale...hint hint...

Well i got some Milk Thistle, Red Yeast Rice, "super" B-Complex today. I have to order my SERM, Taurine, Cycle support and im good to go. The countdown begins! Ill open a log when i get it rollin.

I expect all BDS memebers to pop in at least once as it is my first cycle and i will be on point Mufukas!
 
MentalTwitch said:
Yea glad i only got one. I dint read to much into it. Prolly sit there forever or go on sale...hint hint...

Well i got some Milk Thistle, Red Yeast Rice, "super" B-Complex today. I have to order my SERM, Taurine, Cycle support and im good to go. The countdown begins! Ill open a log when i get it rollin.

I expect all BDS memebers to pop in at least once as it is my first cycle and i will be on point Mufukas!
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red yeast rice is best preloaded,and after the cycle.....from what i gather. I would start 1200mg a day till you start the cycle. It is considered somewhat liver toxic,and not shown to help lipids on a oral cycle... so prolly best to run it again after the cycle.... sinner any additions?
 
TripDog said:
red yeast rice is best preloaded,and after the cycle.....from what i gather. I would start 1200mg a day till you start the cycle. It is considered somewhat liver toxic,and not shown to help lipids on a oral cycle... so prolly best to run it again after the cycle.... sinner any additions?
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Awesome info man much appreciated. I want to get some COQ10 but it is a bit pricey. I may buckle in a week or so as my health is def important.

So ill start my Red Yeast rice and milk thistle tomorrow then as cycle is only 1 1/2 or so away.
 
MentalTwitch said:
Awesome info man much appreciated. I want to get some COQ10 but it is a bit pricey. I may buckle in a week or so as my health is def important.

So ill start my Red Yeast rice and milk thistle tomorrow then as cycle is only 1 1/2 or so away.
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you find what you were looking for??
 
TripDog said:
red yeast rice is best preloaded,and after the cycle.....from what i gather. I would start 1200mg a day till you start the cycle. It is considered somewhat liver toxic,and not shown to help lipids on a oral cycle... so prolly best to run it again after the cycle.... sinner any additions?
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I'm a huge fan of Niacin for cholesterol support. Reason being is that niacin will lower your cholesterol, but still keep your LDL levels high. Even though retards and people who read Men's Health refer to LDL as "bad cholesterol", you're going to want **** load of it when you hit PCT since it's what they body uses to make testosterone.

If you do choose to take any support supplements with methyls, it's best to take your supports a few hours before or after taking your methyl.
 
thesinner said:
I'm a huge fan of Niacin for cholesterol support. Reason being is that niacin will lower your cholesterol, but still keep your LDL levels high. Even though retards and people who read Men's Health refer to LDL as "bad cholesterol", you're going to want **** load of it when you hit post cycle therapy since it's what they body uses to make testosterone.

If you do choose to take any support supplements with methyls, it's best to take your supports a few hours before or after taking your methyl.
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mmm interesting. i thought too much LDL while on was bad idea...?

I did read about the last part in a pulse thread, i assumed it would apply to cycles. Ill prolly do all supports at 6-8 am as i work out at 2 at the earliest. If i do have a morn workout i will just move my supports to night time.
Thanks sinner
 
MentalTwitch said:
mmm interesting. i thought too much LDL while on was bad idea...?

I did read about the last part in a pulse thread, i assumed it would apply to cycles. Ill prolly do all supports at 6-8 am as i work out at 2 at the earliest. If i do have a morn workout i will just move my supports to night time.
Thanks sinner
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really high ldl is bad with low hdl. what hes saying is that RYR lowers LDL cholesterol which is nice if you started with high LDL. but it doesn't do as much to support raising HDL which is what the orals lower. and once you are in PCT, your body creates pregnelone from cholesterol, then dhea from pregnelone, etc down to creating testosterone. if you manage to drive your overall cholesterol levels too low, there won't be enough to create all the hormones you need once your body starts producing its own again
 
So niacin would be good during PCT. RYR is good pre cycle and PCT, but wouldnt the 2 be in "competition?" RYR is to get bad down, niacin supports bad....i seem to be a lil lost here. I understand the 2 seperate but why together then?
 
MentalTwitch said:
So niacin would be good during post cycle therapy. RYR is good pre cycle and PCT, but wouldnt the 2 be in "competition?" RYR is to get bad down, niacin supports bad....i seem to be a lil lost here. I understand the 2 seperate but why together then?
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You're SEVERELY misinformed child.... RYR is a statin and SHOULD NEVER be used... ask for the RYR free version that Crowler offers... and secondly, Niacin supports HDL ... study before you make presumptuous bullshiza comments.
 
RisingAgainst said:
You're SEVERELY misinformed child.... RYR is a statin and SHOULD NEVER be used... ask for the RYR free version that Crowler offers... and secondly, Niacin supports HDL ... study before you make presumptuous bullshiza comments.
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sinner.......
 
thesinner said:
I'm a huge fan of Niacin for cholesterol support. Reason being is that niacin will lower your cholesterol, but still keep your LDL levels high. Even though retards and people who read Men's Health refer to LDL as "bad cholesterol", you're going to want **** load of it when you hit post cycle therapy since it's what they body uses to make testosterone.

If you do choose to take any support supplements with methyls, it's best to take your supports a few hours before or after taking your methyl.
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Read above.. Niacin raises HDL, in turn lowering LDL...
 
RisingAgainst said:
Read above.. Niacin raises HDL, in turn lowering LDL...
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dinoiii said:
If you are using this item for PCT, a little bit extra LDL and Total Cholesterol is NOT a "BAD" thing as this is your body's natural upregulation of androgenic precursors while test has been suppressed. Does this make sense? PCT is NOT the time to incorporate RYR. Niacin (with a primary issue with HDL lowering) is likely a BETTER BET as I have preached since PCT: ACV series (for those that recall that "little" article series).
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