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My X-Factor Experience!

workin2005 said:
Day 17....my appetite is getting greater everyday. I find myself eating tons of Fiber just to try and stay full longer after a meal.

I feel a little leaner in my midsection and have a few new veins popping out. Strength has been steadily increasing as well. So far so good!

Workin
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nice! looking forward to mine. No big deal with DOMS or joint issues yet?
 
workin2005 said:
Day 17....my appetite is getting greater everyday. I find myself eating tons of Fiber just to try and stay full longer after a meal.

I feel a little leaner in my midsection and have a few new veins popping out. Strength has been steadily increasing as well. So far so good!

Workin
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I must say you have sold me on this.
 
Wow. How did I miss this? Rhetoric of course.

Anywho, this is the log I want to see. 2nd best log on AM :head:

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bLacKjAck. said:
Lets get some of those rediculous lifts up in here brudda :thumbsup:
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Believe me, my lifts are not ridiculous. I work out with light weighs for reps...rarly going heavy. The older I get, the more I realize it's a marathon...not a sprint. I've had my share of injuries in the past while lifting heavy...now I just try and stay as lean and tone as possible.

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
Believe me, my lifts are not ridiculous. I work out with light weighs for reps...rarly going heavy. The older I get, the more I realize it's a marathon...not a sprint. I've had my share of injuries in the past while lifting heavy...now I just try and stay as lean and tone as possible.

Workin
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I would love to at least check out your splits/rep schemes...ya know --- general workout thoughts/ways you do things.

Your numbers aren't THAT bad :D
 
At thirty one you can go heavy depending on injuries . People say to increase reps is around age thirty five. Im sure you can get some heavy ass weights up and moving ;provided that you put in the work!

Im Twenty six and going as heavy as I can to build a good foundation before im FORCED to go lighter..aka when you get older..Hopefully Ill defy that statement when Im older. The mind can beat any law!
 
smeton_yea said:
At thirty one you can go heavy depending on injuries . People say to increase reps is around age thirty five. Im sure you can get some heavy ass weights up and moving ;provided that you put in the work!

Im Twenty six and going as heavy as I can to build a good foundation before im FORCED to go lighter..aka when you get older..Hopefully Ill defy that statement when Im older. The mind can beat any law!
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I've found my body responds very well to higher reps. It depends on what look your going for I suppose. For the Men's health look...my workouts are perfect. If your wanting FLEX, my workouts 5 years ago were perfect. I've been both and can tell you that I feel my best staying lean and tone, rather than big and bulky. Each to his own I suppose. ;)

Your smart to build your foundation now...just be careful of injuries. I've seen way to many young guys get injured trying to lift weights that were way to heavy for them. It only takes half a second to blow out your rotator, knee, ac joint, etc...and they will never be the same once injured. Strict form and smooth movements are the key...as I'm sure you know. :)

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
I've found my body responds very well to higher reps. It depends on what look your going for I suppose. For the Men's health look...my workouts are perfect. If your wanting FLEX, my workouts 5 years ago were perfect. I've been both and can tell you that I feel my best staying lean and tone, rather than big and bulky. Each to his own I suppose. ;)

Your smart to build your foundation now...just be careful of injuries. I've seen way to many young guys get injured trying to lift weights that were way to heavy for them. It only takes half a second to blow out your rotator, knee, ac joint, etc...and they will never be the same once injured. Strict form and smooth movements are the key...as I'm sure you know. :)

Workin
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Listen to this man, you hurt yourself when you are young that injury is going to come back and bite you in the ass when you get older, trust me on this. ohh yeah, Workin I am leonidas300 on bb.com, just a heads up.
 
whitedevil74 said:
Listen to this man, you hurt yourself when you are young that injury is going to come back and bite you in the ass when you get older, trust me on this. ohh yeah, Workin I am leonidas300 on bb.com, just a heads up.
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I didn't know, thanks for telling me!

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
I've found my body responds very well to higher reps. It depends on what look your going for I suppose. For the Men's health look...my workouts are perfect. If your wanting FLEX, my workouts 5 years ago were perfect. I've been both and can tell you that I feel my best staying lean and tone, rather than big and bulky. Each to his own I suppose. ;)

Your smart to build your foundation now...just be careful of injuries. I've seen way to many young guys get injured trying to lift weights that were way to heavy for them. It only takes half a second to blow out your rotator, knee, ac joint, etc...and they will never be the same once injured. Strict form and smooth movements are the key...as I'm sure you know. :)

Workin
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Great advice!
 
workin, you are rockin man!


I need to switch to higher reps for a bit (joints need a break), you have a favorite routine?
 
My shoulders actually started getting bigger when I switched from lower reps to higher reps. Log looks good Workin. You got me excited to try XF!
 
workin2005 said:
...I've seen way to many young guys get injured trying to lift weights that were way to heavy for them...
Workin
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I see all ages doing this. Bad technique and form, just so they think stroke their ego. And it is not just about how heavy you go, but the stimuli and stress you apply to your muscles which can be done with any weight. The bottom line, strict form and control the weight.
 
xjsynx said:
I see all ages doing this. Bad technique and form, just so they think stroke their ego. And it is not just about how heavy you go, but the stimuli and stress you apply to your muscles which can be done with any weight. The bottom line, strict form and control the weight.
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I'm finally learning that. And funny, its much harder to do squats with 50lbs and have your butt hit your heels than it is to do just partway down with 200lbs.
 
EasyEJL said:
I'm finally learning that. And funny, its much harder to do squats with 50lbs and have your butt hit your heels than it is to do just partway down with 200lbs.
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Exactly. Tons of people tell me "You can only squat 2 plates?!" I tell them do it like I do you'll cry for your mama lol
 
workin2005 said:
I've found my body responds very well to higher reps. It depends on what look your going for I suppose. For the Men's health look...my workouts are perfect. If your wanting FLEX, my workouts 5 years ago were perfect. I've been both and can tell you that I feel my best staying lean and tone, rather than big and bulky. Each to his own I suppose. ;)

Your smart to build your foundation now...just be careful of injuries. I've seen way to many young guys get injured trying to lift weights that were way to heavy for them. It only takes half a second to blow out your rotator, knee, ac joint, etc...and they will never be the same once injured. Strict form and smooth movements are the key...as I'm sure you know. :)

Workin
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Since you try to stay between 6-8% bodyfat year round, what does your cardio routine look like? Would you say you are more ectomorphic or endomorphic (Even though you look completely mesomorphic)?

My goal is similar to yours. I'm at about 10-12% bf and want to get to the 6-8% and then stay there.

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KingMeso said:
Since you try to stay between 6-8% bodyfat year round, what does your cardio routine look like? Would you say you are more ectomorphic or endomorphic (Even though you look completely mesomorphic)?

My goal is similar to yours. I'm at about 10-12% bf and want to get to the 6-8% and then stay there.

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I'm somewhere between ecto and meso. I hate doing cardio so when I do it, it's always HITT style and usually not more than 3 days per week. I prefer first thing in the morning on an empty stomach.

When weight training, I try and keep my heart rate up as well. I usually won't rest more than 60-90 seconds between sets. Hope this helps!

Workin
 
johnyq said:
workin, you are rockin man!


I need to switch to higher reps for a bit (joints need a break), you have a favorite routine?
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This is what my current split looks like. All exercises are performed strict form and rest periods kept to 60-90 seconds max. I keep my rep range between 8-15 for ALL exercises:

Day 1: Quads, Hamstrings
Quads: Warm Up: Leg Extensions, Squats, Hack Squat, and Heavy Leg Extensions
Hamstrings: Stiff-Legged Dead Lift, Lunges, and Hamstring Curls


Day 2: Chest, Triceps, Calves, Abs
Chest: Incline Presses (Dumbbell-Barbell), Incline Flies
(Flat Flies/Alternate), and Cable Crossovers
Triceps: Close Grip Bench Presses, Tricep Pushdown, and Dips
Calves: Standing Calf Raises, and Seated Calf Raises
Abs: Crunches (5 sets of 25), and Hanging Leg Raises (3 sets of 15)


Day 3: Rest Day


Day 4: Back, Biceps, Calves
Back: Chins, Dead Lifts Lat-Pulldowns, and Dumbbell Rows
(Alternate With Barbell Rows)
Biceps: Barbell Curls, Hammer Curls, and Concentration Curls
(Alternate With Machine Concentration Curls)
Calves: Standing Calf Raises, and Seated Calf Raises


Day 5: Delts, Calves, Abs
Delts: Military Presses, Dumbbell Presses, and Super Set: Side, Front
and Rear Dumbbell Laterals
Calves and Abs (Same as Tuesday)


Day 6: Rest

Day 7: repeat cycle

If I feel I need an extra day off, I take it. If I feel I don't need a day off, I'll workout even if it's a scheduled rest day. It all depends on how I feel...that's why it's difficult to break down exactly what I do week after week as it's always changing. ;)

Workin
 
Day 22.

Feeling noticeably stronger on all exercises and my endurance is through the roof! I think XF is starting to work it's magic.

Side note, I added Leviathan to the mix at 4 caps per day. Two first thing in the morning and 2 just prior to my workout. The energy has been great and I hope this will help keep my midsection tight. The XF is causing me to eat more than usual but I seem to be responding well to the calorie increase. We will see if than continues.

Workin
 
bLacKjAck. said:
FARSE!!!

Heavy weights build muscle....remember that!

Even if your rep ranges are 10-15, put AS MUCH AS YOU CAN on there for those 10-15 :D
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Not necessarily true. I can pretty much guarantee that I can get you to put on some pounds by LOWERING the weight. Granted, it will make you question the existence of God, it can be done ;). But let's not flood Workin's log with training theory.
 
Joint Support while using XF

Hey guys I had a quick question. Do you think that using a joint supplement will affect the perfomance of XF? The joint supplement I have has glucosamine, condroiton, and msm. Let me know what you think.
 
sad i missed this til now...ill be followin up on this man...im about a week into my x cycle cant wait til it kicks in
 
Workin what sort of total volume are we talking about here? I am basically just wondering approximately how many sets we are talking about per exercise? I really like the looks of your routine but I am just wondering how many sets because I seem to overtrain pretty easily and try not to do too much volume work.

Also do you do all sets to failure? Or do you try to complete rep ranges with just a little bit left?

Thanks.

Mr.50

workin2005 said:
This is what my current split looks like. All exercises are performed strict form and rest periods kept to 60-90 seconds max. I keep my rep range between 8-15 for ALL exercises:

Day 1: Quads, Hamstrings
Quads: Warm Up: Leg Extensions, Squats, Hack Squat, and Heavy Leg Extensions
Hamstrings: Stiff-Legged Dead Lift, Lunges, and Hamstring Curls


Day 2: Chest, Triceps, Calves, Abs
Chest: Incline Presses (Dumbbell-Barbell), Incline Flies
(Flat Flies/Alternate), and Cable Crossovers
Triceps: Close Grip Bench Presses, Tricep Pushdown, and Dips
Calves: Standing Calf Raises, and Seated Calf Raises
Abs: Crunches (5 sets of 25), and Hanging Leg Raises (3 sets of 15)


Day 3: Rest Day


Day 4: Back, Biceps, Calves
Back: Chins, Dead Lifts Lat-Pulldowns, and Dumbbell Rows
(Alternate With Barbell Rows)
Biceps: Barbell Curls, Hammer Curls, and Concentration Curls
(Alternate With Machine Concentration Curls)
Calves: Standing Calf Raises, and Seated Calf Raises


Day 5: Delts, Calves, Abs
Delts: Military Presses, Dumbbell Presses, and Super Set: Side, Front
and Rear Dumbbell Laterals
Calves and Abs (Same as Tuesday)


Day 6: Rest

Day 7: repeat cycle

If I feel I need an extra day off, I take it. If I feel I don't need a day off, I'll workout even if it's a scheduled rest day. It all depends on how I feel...that's why it's difficult to break down exactly what I do week after week as it's always changing. ;)

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ltdgt99 said:
Hey guys I had a quick question. Do you think that using a joint supplement will affect the perfomance of XF? The joint supplement I have has glucosamine, condroiton, and msm. Let me know what you think.
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it should be fine, others have used those. at really high doses, those possibly would have an effect, but not at normal label doses
 
Mr.50 said:
Workin what sort of total volume are we talking about here? I am basically just wondering approximately how many sets we are talking about per exercise? I really like the looks of your routine but I am just wondering how many sets because I seem to overtrain pretty easily and try not to do too much volume work.

Also do you do all sets to failure? Or do you try to complete rep ranges with just a little bit left?

Thanks.

Mr.50
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I usually do 3-4 work sets of each exercise. (warm ups aren't counted) I often change my routine to go from pyramid style sets/reps/weight to double progression style. Lately, I've been loving double progression...especially for the leg press.

Here's an example of my reps/sets/weights on leg press when doing double progression:

-A constant weight for all sets...usually 5 plates per side.
-4 sets total
-8-15 reps per set.
-60 seconds rest MAX in between sets.

I'll try and get 15 reps on all 4 sets. Usually it turns out to be around 15/14/12/10. Once I can get 15 reps on all for sets, within the allotted time, I up the weight for the next workout and repeat the process. The key hear is slow, strict form and being sure your not resting more than 60 seconds between sets.

Workin
 
Sounds great Workin. Thanks. It is similar to what i have been doing but I will make some modification as per your program here. Much appreciated.

Mr.50
 
imprezivr6 said:
Damn.. Wish i could get that lean, let alone stay that lean..lol Good luck, i am interested to see your thoughts on this.

Any info on your diet?
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Nice dog is it a Presa ? I recently moved to Florida we bought a French Mastiff (Turner and Hooch dog)
Looked into Presas but banned in the gated community we live in . Though individual houses Board has to okay the breed
 
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My thoughts are you ave to have a pre existing condition, or it might can cause these effects two people report. I Hope all goes well with your and I hope it works like claimed with only positive side effects. Digestion, muscle building...

are these gains tempory like Ph's and gear or long lasting?
 
it should be long lasting, as part of its effect is just like following the gironda diet :) natural fatty acid found in eggs + steaks
 
EasyEJL said:
it should be long lasting, as part of its effect is just like following the gironda diet :) natural fatty acid found in eggs + steaks
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Awesome! I was over thinking and wrong. The reason these people had these sides is because they already had a case that didnt agree with inflamatory substances aka AA
 
yeah, its just impossible to say for sure. i believe risk level is far lower with AA than anything else that will give that level of results
 
Day 26:

Strength continues to improve. I feel like I'm holding a bit more water than normal, but I don't mind as the pumps I'm getting in the gym make me look almost freakish! lol!

I'm definitely getting more sore than usual but it seems to have peaked and is not getting any worse with time...so far.
Leviathan has curbed my appetite, so hunger pains from XF are not so strong...making it much easier to stay on my diet.

I'm very happy with XF up to this point! ;)

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
Day 26:

Strength continues to improve. I feel like I'm holding a bit more water than normal, but I don't mind as the pumps I'm getting in the gym make me look almost freakish! lol!

I'm definitely getting more sore than usual but it seems to have peaked and is not getting any worse with time...so far.
Leviathan has curbed my appetite, to hunger pains from XF are not so strong...making it much easier to stay on my diet.

I'm very happy with XF up to this point! ;)

Workin
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ALLRIGHT Workin!! Rock on!!
 
You're half way into your cycle -- how's the LBM doing? Any gains? This is what we all really wanna know. [If you only gain 2-3 lbs in 50 days, it might not be worth it. But if you gain 7-8 lbs, hell yeah!]
 
workin2005 said:
Day 26:

Strength continues to improve. I feel like I'm holding a bit more water than normal, but I don't mind as the pumps I'm getting in the gym make me look almost freakish! lol!

I'm definitely getting more sore than usual but it seems to have peaked and is not getting any worse with time...so far.
Leviathan has curbed my appetite, so hunger pains from XF are not so strong...making it much easier to stay on my diet.

I'm very happy with XF up to this point! ;)

Workin
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Awesome that you like XF...

Poseidon + XF is money!
 
ImJ2x said:
You're half way into your cycle -- how's the LBM doing? Any gains? This is what we all really wanna know. [If you only gain 2-3 lbs in 50 days, it might not be worth it. But if you gain 8-10 lbs, hell yeah!]
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So far, I've gained 4 pounds...but remember, this is on a VERY strict, low calorie, low carb diet. My body fat is somewhat skewed right now as I'm holding some water. It currently reads about exactly like it did prior to beginning the cycle (about 7-8%) but I know if I lost the water I'd be at 6-7%.

So XF is very effective at LBM gains...epecially if one were to up their calories a bit. The fact that my strength has increased and my muscles are staying staying so full on such a restricted diet speaks volumes.

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
So far, I've gained 4 pounds...but remember, this is on a VERY strict, low calorie, low carb diet. My body fat is somewhat skewed right now as I'm holding some water. It currently reads about exactly like it did prior to beginning the cycle (about 7-8%) but I know if I lost the water I'd be at 6-7%.

So XF is very effective at LBM gains...epecially if one were to up their calories a bit. The fact that my strength has increased and my muscles are staying staying so full on such a restricted diet speaks volumes.

Workin
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That does sound promising. [Actually, when I re-read my own post, 8-10 lbs sounded a little too ambitious, so I edited it to read 7-8 lbs. But it now looks like 10 lbs isn't necessarily out of the question, with proper caloric intake.] And considering that you won't need pct, and should keep most or all of your gains, maybe this AA stuff is OK. Keep us informed, Workin.
 
ImJ2x said:
That does sound promising. [Actually, when I re-read my own post, 8-10 lbs sounded a little too ambitious, so I edited it to read 7-8 lbs. But it now looks like 10 lbs isn't necessarily out of the question, with proper caloric intake.] And considering that you won't need post cycle therapy, and should keep most or all of your gains, maybe this AA stuff is OK. Keep us informed, Workin.
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He WILL keep all his gains, and continue to gain when off
, as AA levels will gradually decrease.
 
Workin, 4 pounds on a restricted diet in such a short time is impressive.

I was wondering if this was a sponsored log/gift or if you purchased the X-factor yourself.

Finally, I enjoy your products and have to say that Prld is a very helpful and intelligent rep for your products AND many others.
 
celc5 said:
Workin, 4 pounds on a restricted diet in such a short time is impressive.

I was wondering if this was a sponsored log/gift or if you purchased the X-factor yourself.

Finally, I enjoy your products and have to say that Prld is a very helpful and intelligent rep for your products AND many others.
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I agree, it is very impressive. Now I know the water I'm holding accounts for at least a pound but I'm just shocked I was able to build anything with such a restricted diet. I was only expecting XF to help me hold onto muscle during this time so I'm very pleased with the results.

This was not a completely sponsored log, but more of a trade out. I don't feel pressured to give good feedback, nor would I ever, if it's not justified. I'm just reporting my experince...the good and the bad. ;)

Thanks for the complement on our products and our rep Prld. He does a great job and we are very blessed to have him on the Nimbus Nutrition team. :thumbsup:

Workin
 
The gains are also impressive because it appears that you have been training for a number of years to attain the physique that you currently have. Gains on a newb wouldn't be nearly as impressive. The more I think about it, the more I like XFactor.

Consider that a PH cycle with all support supplements and blood work would cost more than $200. A similar XFactor cycle would cost about $100. (two bottles.) and gains would be easier to keep and much less toxic on the body.

I'd like to buy the bulk xfactor and cap em myself. I wonder about how many mg fits in one, size 0 cap.
 
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