So should I postpone my cycle? I could do xfactor instead, even get in that combo logging opportunity. Of course it means no fish oil megadosing
I do like the idea of ballooning up fast and adding strength fast with revolt tho
Yeah, when Phil hears what happened to Paul I'm sure he'll think twice about it himself.
Yeah, when Phil hears what happened to Paul I'm sure he'll think twice about it himself.
This would be your first cycle, right?
How long have you been trying to change your physique through manipulation of diet and exercise so far?
I'd say to have at least 2 years experience with finding what works for you in both cutting and bulking routines. That's also a good time to really learn how to be patient with your exercises and concentrate on getting the right technique for the once that matter. I think after about 2 years, everything gets to be second nature and the cycles should be much more effective once incorporated.
I know it took me that long to learn how to do things properly.
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This would be your first cycle, right?
How long have you been trying to change your physique through manipulation of diet and exercise so far?
I'd say to have at least 2 years experience with finding what works for you in both cutting and bulking routines. That's also a good time to really learn how to be patient with your exercises and concentrate on getting the right technique for the ones that matter. I think after about 2 years, everything gets to be second nature and the cycles should be much more effective once incorporated.
I know it took me that long to learn how to do things properly.
I've only been really serious for about 9 months. I'm having good results, I'd just like to kickstart it and make a jump to the "next level". This last few weeks was my first bulk in my life![]()
Yeah, i was starting to think that if I can get such good results from what I am doing, why fudge with hormones yet? I can save them for when I am at 8% bf @ 220 and having a hard time going upI guess the one thing is that I feel like I am working with light weights, could use a boost in strength
Tell me if this math sounds rightish
at 200lbs and 15% bf, I had a lean mass of 170. right now at 215, assuming same bf (which it seems like from vascularity, definition, etc), I'm at around 182 for lean mass. so If I can drop back down to 198 (my recent low) without loosing muscle, I should hit under 10% bf
Yes, that sounds right, but you're still assuming your current bodyfat %. Do you have some way to measure it for sure? You can get calipers pretty cheaply.
Also, some anabolics would definitely help increase your muscular strength pretty rapidly, but are you prepared to suffer some of the difficulties that will put on your joints/ligaments/tendons?
hmm, I was just starting to read this 5-AD thread by Patrick Arnold, did it get deleted?
that, sir, is an emoticon
I've only been really serious for about 9 months. I'm having good results, I'd just like to kickstart it and make a jump to the "next level". This last few weeks was my first bulk in my life![]()
It's B5150 that hates emoticons...Mmmkay?
If I would have known you had the same disgust of the dreaded emoticon, I would have withheld. :insertwinkingsmileyhere:
"Hello?"
"Hi honey. This is Daddy. Is Mommy near the phone?"
"No Daddy. She's upstairs in the bedroom with Uncle Paul."
After a brief pause, Daddy says,
"But honey, you haven't got an Uncle Paul."
"Oh yes I do, and he's upstairs in the room with Mommy, right now."
Brief Pause.
"Uh, okay then, this is what I want you to do. Put the phone down on the table, run upstairs and knock on the bed room door and shout to Mommy that Daddy's car just pulled into the driveway."
"Okay Daddy, just a minute."
A few minutes later the little girl comes back to the phone.
"I did it Daddy."
"And what happened honey?"
"Well, Mommy got all scared, jumped out of bed with no clothes on and ran around screaming. Then she tripped over the rug, hit her head on the dresser and now she isn't moving at all!"
"Oh my God!!! What about your Uncle Paul?"
"He jumped out of the bed with no clothes on, too. He was all scared and he jumped out of the back window and into the swimming pool. But I guess he didn't know that you took out the water last week to clean it. He hit the bottom of the pool and I think he's dead."
***Long Pause***
***Longer Pause***
***Even Longer Pause***
Then Daddy says,
"Swimming pool? Is this 486-5731?"
hmm, I was just starting to read this 5-AD thread by Patrick Arnold, did it get deleted?
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9 months?
If I recall this is pretty much the first time you have hit teh weigths correct?
Like Wil said about 8000 posts ago. It is also about tendon strength. Nothing will hault your gains faster than an injury.
But...in your case...
But...in your case...
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I just thought the idea of making a big jump for my 40th birthday sounded cool, but better to be safe
"safe" is overatedJUST KIDDING
He could have ironed his shirt :nutkick:
So all of you in xj's clubhouse concur that I should wait rather than jump into hormones yet?
It's B5150 that hates emoticons...Mmmkay?
If I would have known you had the same disgust of the dreaded emoticon, I would have withheld. :insertwinkingsmileyhere:
Thanks, I do have contempt for them.
Emoticons killed my dog.
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saw it
first time in 20 years yeah. I guess I should go for the xfactor combo logging opportunities then, hopefully get x-factor + driveand save hormones for another year.
Did NP get bulk x-factor yet?
I just need to hurry up and decide, so I can apply for that xfactor logging![]()
I just need to hurry up and decide, so I can apply for that xfactor logging![]()
So all of you in xj's clubhouse concur that I should wait rather than jump into hormones yet?
I just need to hurry up and decide, so I can apply for that xfactor logging![]()
You need to check yourself before you wreck yourself...
I'd like to put in an app for that...is it in their forum?
I'd like to put in an app for that...is it in their forum?
yeah, but don't apply!!! i want to get in![]()
Thanks Wil
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