perhaps the ban had been lifted, as the report was issued in 2001, 6 years ago
Sad but true, the french, norwegians, germans can't sell vitamin C over 200mgs per dose. I would like to hear someone from the above mentioned countries to tell us the details. Big pharma pushes itself very agressively. YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
that makes sense, its pointless to take a dose higher than 200mgs unless its a time release formula anyhow. vit c's half life is under 2 hrs
i lived in France for six months and i'd heard rumours that red bull was banned but they sold other energy drinks in stead. it was called Shark or something? what is it in red bull they dont like? cant be the caffiene surely.
Great line Crowler! :rofl:
Here in Germany, Vitamin C is available as effervescent tablets and as capsules in 1 000mg sizes. The problem, though, is not necessarily Vitamin C as such, but the combination of ingredients in a given formula. It is fairly regular to see a formula classified as a drug due to the specific concentrations of the used ingredients, even if the separate ingredients are classified as food supplements. It would, for instance be next to impossible to convince the German Customs that Green Tea Extract (standardized for 98% Polyphenols, 60% Epigallocathechingallate (EGCG)) 500mg is a food supplement. For them, and for the health authorities, it is a drug, even though Green Tea leaves are food supplements, regardless of quantity! Tongkat Ali in capsule form would not be allowed into Germany. Yet, importation in powdered form is not restricted. In this form, it is referred to as a forest product. The list can be continued. Weird, right? The life of an athlete is fairly complex here, guys!
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First of all you're right about taking more than 200mgs of non time released vit C is a waste. But how about banning foods that contain more than 500 kcals per serving just because excess calories would be stored as fat?
Are those Vitamin C formulas you're talking about manufactured by pharma companies and expensive as hell compared to lets say nutraplanet's prices? Btw how long have you been living in such circumstances?
Big Pharma prefers ingredients they can patent and demand exorbitant prices for. Vitamin C, basically ascorbic acid, is not their focus, although they still offer such products. No-name brands, however, offer relatively cheaper Vitamin C products, especially as effervescent forms. Still, NutraPlanet's prices are unbeatable.
but, do they like you?
Interesting question. Still, the expression "I like French women" is, in my opinion, more complex to interpret than may be superficially assumed at first sight. Reason is that the current French society is so heterogeneous and inter-cultural that there may not be a typical "French woman", rather French-speaking women with different cultural outlooks. The difference is subtle, yet exists. This might assist some hopefuls to manage their expectations.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo way!
Don't worry. We'll be right behind you. We are infested with career politicians who are entirely impotent however manage to keep themselves in power by playing on the ignorance of the average soccer mom and drunk dad by scaring them to high hell their little son who wants to be a professional athlete will be killed by performance enhancing drugs, discriminated against, etc, etc, etc and then claim that their presence in office will make the kids "safe". That or they make a living by finding a social fringe-group and exploiting them in either a positive or negative fashion (for the group).
Oh, really ?
Throw in the enormous influence of the extremely powerful Big-Pharma lobby into the picture, and the outcome gets fairly predictable.
Isn't it banned everywhere?
of course, they all do
I think all sports should be like pro bodybuilding. Everyone already assumes that pros juice so they don't worry about it and besides they want to see freaks anyway. The playing field should be even and all athletes should be allowed to juice. Maybe then I would watch sports.Maybe cycling will go the way of bodybuidling: Separate races for cyclists, and "clean" cyclists.
How might one define a "clean cyclist" in a competitive event like the Tour de France that is so physically and mentally demanding in the extreme sense over a time span of more than two weeks without break?Maybe cycling will go the way of bodybuidling: Separate races for cyclists, and "clean" cyclists.
You need a special import license from the Ministry of Health to import those so-called "hard-core" supplements into Germany. Or, believe it or not, you could get your medical doctor (yes, doctor) to prescribe those creatine supplements for you. In this case, a pharmacy would have to import them on behalf of your doctor for you, before it finally reaches you. Yes, like a prescription drug.
Ok, but there seem to be a lot of webshops in Germany that sell "advanced" creatines too.
It is interesting that you have now provided a link to Peak Performance Products. If you bother to look at their best-selling all-in-one creatine formula, Createston Professionell, you will see a notice on that page that reads as follows:
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