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    ok, here is tip #10001. go to walmart and get some surgical gloves. they are cheap, and will prevent you hand from absorbing the form. less waste that way since after rubbing it in, i seem to get quite a bit on my hands. this has worked well for me, thought i would pass it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    ok, here is tip #10001. go to walmart and get some surgical gloves. they are cheap, and will prevent you hand from absorbing the form. less waste that way since after rubbing it in, i seem to get quite a bit on my hands. this has worked well for me, thought i would pass it on.
    Good tip. I'm going to update the FAQ at some point with this extra information i.e. baby dropper etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    ok, here is tip #10001. go to walmart and get some surgical gloves. they are cheap, and will prevent you hand from absorbing the form. less waste that way since after rubbing it in, i seem to get quite a bit on my hands. this has worked well for me, thought i would pass it on.
    for making the solution or for applying it each dose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    for making the solution or for applying it each dose?
    well ive found the best way of applying is to spray on hand and then apply. when doing this i get a lot of residual on my hands, the gloves prevents this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    well ive found the best way of applying is to spray on hand and then apply. when doing this i get a lot of residual on my hands, the gloves prevents this.
    good thinking. so it wouldn't absorb the same way in the hands as it does everywhere else?
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    I believe thinner the skin the better absorbtion. Palms of hands are pretty think, back of hands maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    I believe thinner the skin the better absorbtion. Palms of hands are pretty think, back of hands maybe.
    you're missing the point.
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    Thanks for all the great help guys! Do you think a 1 ml oral syringe would do the job also to give roughly 25mg/ml?
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    Neo, here's the formestane log you've been waiting for. Let's rock

    H-drol + E-form: Recomp Log

    4-6 week plan:
    H-drol 50-75mg
    Eform 40-120mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    So does the baby dropper have measurements on it or total amount? Do you then just drop onto hand and rub in?

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    It has measurements usually up to 5ml or so.

    You could drop it onto your hands, I personally just drop it onto the area of application, i.e. applying to chest, just take the dropper and drop some solution onto chest and rub in... same thing goes for shoulders, feet, etc. Makes me feel like I'm getting it where it belongs.
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    Question for those running this on a ph/aas cycle. Will this have any effect on how you run your pct? What changes, if any, will you make? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbustered View Post
    Question for those running this on a ph/anabolic steroids cycle. Will this have any effect on how you run your post cycle therapy? What changes, if any, will you make? Thanks
    pct depends on how suppresive a cycle you run. i am doing furazadrol/td form and will just go wit dth/retain2/rpm for pct. although lots have done it, i dont think form a good idea for pct. just my opinion. good question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbustered View Post
    Question for those running this on a ph/anabolic steroids cycle. Will this have any effect on how you run your post cycle therapy? What changes, if any, will you make? Thanks
    I can't speak for others, but I will still run my AI inverse to my serm. Of course, cort control and free test booster are in my pct plan as well.

    Since you brought it up, I wonder if running the full dose AI while ON cycle and then switching to the lose dose AI (in ramp fashion) will have an adverse effect. Good question. I'm curious.

    Should I taper formestane at the end of my cycle before pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    I can't speak for others, but I will still run my AI inverse to my serm. Of course, cort control and free test booster are in my post cycle therapy plan as well.

    Since you brought it up, I wonder if running the full dose AI while ON cycle and then switching to the lose dose AI (in ramp fashion) will have an adverse effect. Good question. I'm curious.

    Should I taper formestane at the end of my cycle before post cycle therapy?
    yes yes and yes. as with all ai's its always a good idea to ramp down. the good thing is the ai effects of formestane will last after you stop taking it, you want to run your low dose ai pct just to prevent rebound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    yes yes and yes. as with all ai's its always a good idea to ramp down. the good thing is the ai effects of formestane will last after you stop taking it, you want to run your low dose ai post cycle therapy just to prevent rebound.
    To clarify my statement, I am running my form ON cycle and then switching to restore as my AI in post cycle therapy.

    I plan to ramp up restore and then taper during post cycle therapy in this fashion: 1/2/3/3/2/1 (to prevent rebound as you had suggested T) I did my best to follow the rules in the "ATD inverse to SERM" thread.

    My question is, do I taper the formestane at the end of the ON cycle period because of it's AI properties?

    Edit: After reading your post again, i think you answered this already but do it again because I'm super special ed tonight
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    To clarify my statement, I am running my form ON cycle and then switchingto restore as my AI in post cycle therapy.

    I plan to ramp up restore and then taper during post cycle therapy in this fashion: 1/2/3/3/2/1 (to prevent rebound as you had suggested T) I'm did my best to follow the rules in the "ATD inverse to SERM" thread.

    My question is, do I taper the formestane at the end of the ON cycle period because of it's AI properties?
    i know what you were saying. if you run a 4 week pct, you could even run form into week 2 of pct. tapering off as you go, maybe down to 1 squirt a day at the end. less chance of rebound the longer you taper off. everyone has their own version of pct, look at whats out there and take the best,throw out the rest. its time to eat.
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    Great post Neo. Thebigt turned me on to this stuff. I am looking forward to using it.
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    * It increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid combined, without the negative effects of either drug! And in addition has been shown to continue to increase HPTA activity above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous use. Yes, this means more naturally produced testosterone!
    * It decreases the number of progesterone receptors, which inhibits "trenbolone/deca-****" type side effects and increases fat loss. (Yes, better sex drive too). Why focus on performance unless you are able to perform? It increases IGF-1 production as much as 26%
    * It decreases Steroid Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) by 34%, meaning there is that much more free testosterone/androgens flowing through your veins for enhanced anabolic activity naturally!
    * It inhibits DHT formation and activity.
    * It possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors and has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such a BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia) in some research (Cool plus but not our marketing area).

    Sounds like a winner to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCfan1 View Post
    * It increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid combined, without the negative effects of either drug! And in addition has been shown to continue to increase HPTA activity above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous use. Yes, this means more naturally produced testosterone!
    * It decreases the number of progesterone receptors, which inhibits "trenbolone/deca-****" type side effects and increases fat loss. (Yes, better sex drive too). Why focus on performance unless you are able to perform? It increases IGF-1 production as much as 26%
    * It decreases Steroid Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) by 34%, meaning there is that much more free testosterone/androgens flowing through your veins for enhanced anabolic activity naturally!
    * It inhibits DHT formation and activity.
    * It possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors and has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such a BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia) in some research (Cool plus but not our marketing area).

    Sounds like a winner to me.
    you wont get an arguement from anyone here. hell prid and celc research stuff for years before they try it. welcome aboard the formestane bandwagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you wont get an arguement from anyone here. hell prid and celc research stuff for years before they try it. welcome aboard the formestane bandwagon.
    And then when we crash and burn, we blame thebigT and steal his fancy crown
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    And then when we crash and burn, we blame thebigT and steal his fancy crown
    does that mean when you get big and ripped i get the credit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you wont get an arguement from anyone here. hell prid and celc research stuff for years before they try it. welcome aboard the formestane bandwagon.
    I'm running mass fx,oxo11 and formestance for 6wk cycle.For pct I'm thinking of using restore and tapering off formestance is this ok ? and after you stop your formestance cycle how long before you can run another doe's time off equal time on ? thanks for any help you can offer
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I'm running mass fx,oxo11 and formestance for 6wk cycle.For post cycle therapy I'm thinking of using restore and tapering off formestance is this ok ? and after you stop your formestance cycle how long before you can run another doe's time off equal time on ? thanks for any help you can offer
    i think that looks like a great cycle. run you a bottle of restore after your cycle and you'll be fine. take a month off. damn im hungry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i think that looks like a great cycle. run you a bottle of restore after your cycle and you'll be fine. take a month off. damn im hungry.
    I've been reading everyone's log's on the topic and I'm hooked on formestance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I've been reading everyone's log's on the topic and I'm hooked on formestance.
    not another one. welcome aboard.
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    So I am logging formestane / leviathan now. I want to know, I have the 1ml dropper, so I use five of those per application two times a day / morning / night?
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    Yes.
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    very nice post neo. Ill be using this with my next cycle. reps!
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    You're welcome = Much love to BigT, Celc & Purple Grimace Animal Sexy B1tch Extraordinaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtraflossy View Post
    don't want to sound toooooo stupid, but why can't the form powder be suspended and then injected IM ?

    I thought that it worked best when taken IM. I understand TD is MUCH better then oral, but is there a particular reason one couldnt order up some from NP, suspend it in some sort of solution, and pin it?
    It can, but anything greater than 8-9mg/ml in oil crystallizes in the muscle and hurts. The water based suspension I tried kept clumping up.
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    good luck C....how long have you been taking Leviathan (when did ya start it bro)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGAINS View Post
    It can, but anything greater than 8-9mg/ml in oil crystallizes in the muscle and hurts. The water based suspension I tried kept clumping up.
    i think someone said before that u have to use the acetate form of formestane for im.
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    Quote Originally Posted by john123131 View Post
    good luck C....how long have you been taking Leviathan (when did ya start it bro)
    I believe this is my fourth day - see my log link in my signature to find my form / leviathan stackage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i think someone said before that u have to use the acetate form of formestane for im.
    4-OHT Cyp takes a "special" formula just to get 100mg/ml and hurts like a mofo, great stuff though no doubt, just like form.
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    I must admit my first run ( still on ) with mixing the Penatrate and form did not go well at all. From what I can remember I believe I pretty much just dumped it all together then heated. Well the Form keeps coming out of the liquid I have it all sitting mistily at the bottom of the container. I have reheated several times, it seem to go in then drop out again.

    Next time I am going to try a couple things as suggested:

    • Heat Penetrate
    • Add Form gram by gram
    • Shake like a mofo


    If that doesn't work I'll do the following:

    • Find somewhere that sells Benzl Alcohol
    • Pour 6ml BA into jar
    • Add Form gram by gram
    • Add Heated Penetrate
    • Shake like a mofo
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    Is it gritty when you rub it on?

    How many grams of form did you add to the penatrate?
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    Don't people use IPM, DMSO, EtOH and OA anymore? BA is cool, but certainly not essential or special as a trans co-solvent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR.D View Post
    Don't people use IPM, DMSO, EtOH and OA anymore? BA is cool, but certainly not essential or special as a trans co-solvent.
    you got a link for dmso. thats what pa used in skulpt, he was able to combine yohimbine and 6oxo powder in one formula using this, but i cant find it. btw sculpt sucked, but i think it was way underdosed.
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