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    I think NOW has good quality supps.. i use them for almost all my vitamins i take during the day..  along with great prices you cant really go wrong

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    Originally posted by lostlbs
    k i cant wait to start, im saving up and im prolly gonna start early august, Ive noticed the NOW products are pretty cheap, but are they good quality? what would u guys suggest?
    NOW products are just fine bro. That's what most guys are taking.
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    ook cant wait 2 start!
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    since i cant afford such i high dose of cla every month ive been looking for something else to add thats cheaper.. I know GUGGUL and FORSKOLIN have been used together with eca stacks to help with fatloss.. what do you guys think about adding them to this stack? you can get both pretty cheap over at BAC
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    What is the average bf% lost for a month with this???
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    I've got in some ALCAR powder and some Syntrax r-ala. I don't have any other components of the stack yet, but I think I will start with these. I plan on 500 mg ALCAR and 100 mg r-ala 3 times daily. Any input? What else would be critical to add next. Oh yeah, and how does everyone take their ALCAR powder??
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    I take 200 mg of RALA with each meal. One before and one after. The half life of ALA is supposed to be 30 minutes. I would assume food takes longer than this to digest hence my reason for splitting it up.

    I like to put my ALCAR powder in my ICE. But a protein shake or water would suffice. It has a strange sweet taste.
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    As has been mentioned here and on animals, ALA/ALCAR is a very solid stack in and of itself. As is CLA/green tea. ALA/ALCAR have been proven to work synergistically, while the ALA is strong enough to protect against any pro-oxiditve effects of the ALCAR by itself. That said, the full stack includes all of the above but was always being expanded upon. The initial Anarchy stack consisted only of ALA/ALCAR/CLA but with green tea's positive effects it was included while other compounds such as rhodiola, chocamine, and soon to be sesamin are simply extensions.

    ALCAR powder can be taken however you want it...either just chase it down your throat with water or poor it in a beverage. Like Dito said, its kind of soury sweet.
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    This thread is officially the most viewed thread in the history of AM. Whew, I could have never imagined that when I started this thread it would become as big as it has. Lets keep it coming!
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    I cant wait, im probably ordering my supply tonite,

    Is it ok if i have

    4g of cla with 4 meals

    1g of alcar with the first 2 meals of the day then 500 mg on the third, and no more after

    1g of ala in the first,fourth,and sixth meal of the day

    biotin in the morning

    and 800 mg of green tea with each meal

    Is this ok? or will any interfere with each other?
    also which ones should i take before during or after meals?
    and is it ok to take arginine,glutamine,b-complex, and multivitamins during this?

    Sorry for all the questions, but thanks for the help so far
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    lostlbs,

    You need to have the ALA with EACH meal just reduce your dose accordingly. The CLA with 4 meals will be OK but then you DEF. have to have the ALA with each meal.

    Work your way up on the Alcar starting wtih 500mg with your fist 3 or 4 meals a day. Dont initially take it past 3 or 4pm as some find it hard to sleep on. Then just go up from there. The green tea is great bro @ 800mg per meal! So is the Biotin once a day. Have fun.
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    you need to take the ala even though if the meal is only protein+fat?
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    Originally posted by pinoy
    you need to take the ala even though if the meal is only protein+fat?
    I take it every meal but hey, eperiment and see what works for YOU. That is always the key. I dont have ONLY protein and fat meals....
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    and my girlfriend thinks I am a prick...
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    Well i have 2 days to go before my stack arrives.. I'll be using the Alcar, r-ala, cla, biotin and green tea extract... Along with san's V12.. I think i will post pics 14 days after i start my stack..
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    ya im gonna take a pic b4 and after, cuz i can never tell when i change cuz im always lookin at the mirror
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    Sorry for asking twice but could someone who understands how this stack works read this article and see if possibly adding any of these compounds to this stack might be worthwhile....I will try and do some more research myself also....keep in mind the article is dated.
    http://www.vitaminconnection.com/101...3_fatloss.html
    Thanks
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    Originally posted by morigu
    Sorry for asking twice but could someone who understands how this stack works read this article and see if possibly adding any of these compounds to this stack might be worthwhile....I will try and do some more research myself also....keep in mind the article is dated.
    http://www.vitaminconnection.com/101...3_fatloss.html
    Thanks
    Biotin is already a part of the stack for most and CoQ1O is very good to add from a health point of view but will not likely help much with fat loss.
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    Originally posted by pinoy
    you need to take the ala even though if the meal is only protein+fat?
    You do not need to take ala if the meal is only protein+fat nor do you need it with every meal, just often and spread throughout the day. While ala's half life is very short in the bloodstream, it is much longer in the mitocondria which is where it will be protecting the cell from any pro-ox effects of the ALCAR.

    CoQ10 or Ibedinone work very similar to ala and some members have experimented with using it to replace ala (and the slight water retention it may cause) as part of the stack, as it too protects the mitochondria of the cells. IMO its not cost effective and the ala's effects on glucose disposal are better overall.
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    Sorry but you should be taking the ALA with every meal that has carbs/sugars involved.
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    I even take 200mg with my snacks.
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    damn...over 10000 views of this....more and more people using it, crazy.

    WW7's stack at legalgear are the best prices i've seen
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    Originally posted by motleybreu
    damn...over 10000 views of this....more and more people using it, crazy.

    yup, it sure is. but now how about more people start posting their results on this stack. i'm sure alot of people besides me are interested.
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    Originally posted by windwords7
    Sorry but you should be taking the ALA with every meal that has carbs/sugars involved.
    Key words are "has carbs". If your eating a protein/fat meal...the glucose disposal properties of the ala are unnecessary and might send one into hypo like state if they are already low blood sugar such as early in the morning. However, as you stated, it is BEST to take the ala with every carb meal as it maximizes the glucose being transported into the muscles. However, for its anti-ox properties (the primary reason it was included in the anarchy stack [just read the literature]) its half life is much longer and does not require every meal usage.
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    well my results are nothing short of amazing. I feel great, even on less sleep, stressful times and i have been a lot calmer. That's something in itself. I have a very short temper and this stuff just seems to relax me.

    As for physical effects i have lost 2% bf in just one month. Haven't lost weight because, well, i dont want to!! LMAO the stack is great, it's definately going to be a long term thing

    1.5g ALCAR
    1g ALA
    2g Biotin
    1450mg green tea extract
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    I got my acetyl-l-carnitine today, in powder, i was just curios is it normal that it smells like vinegar a little??
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    Originally posted by belbs75
    I got my acetyl-l-carnitine today, in powder, i was just curios is it normal that it smells like vinegar a little??
    yes, mine does too
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    >>
    2g Biotin
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    Hello,

    you have mentioned the above quantity a few times now.. I am assuming you mean 2 *mg* of biotin, right?

    (just making sure.. I am taking one 5mg pill a day myself..)

    Thanks,

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    What would u suggest to use with this stack to help lose weight?
    Pyruvat...gugubolic?
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    Originally posted by lostlbs
    What would u suggest to use with this stack to help lose weight?
    Pyruvat...gugubolic?
    i was thinking GUGGUL and FORSKOLIN since they are real cheap at BAC... i suggested it earlier bt no one responded...
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    Originally posted by pinoy


    yes, mine does too
    Hey bro where did you get your 1 from?

    Anyways i started my stack this morning. 500mg Alcar, 200mg R-ala, 2mg Biotin and im on my 2nd cup of the most bitter green tea...
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    yeah i hate the way green tea tastes....i just take the supp...
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    Originally posted by motleybreu
    yeah i hate the way green tea tastes....i just take the supp...
    Some GT is very bitter and some is Brilliantly smooth. You just have to try out different brands until you find one thats good. They are out there. Good Earth GT is awesome.
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    and yeah 2mg of biotin which i will soon be increasing the dosage of..i have the stuff i take in my records and copy/paste when people ask for it and i mistyped it...i'm human, sue me
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    Originally posted by motleybreu
    and yeah 2mg of biotin which i will soon be increasing the dosage of..i have the stuff i take in my records and copy/paste when people ask for it and i mistyped it...i'm human, sue me
    LOL! Nice MB

    Any new updates anyone?
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    i got this 3 leaf green tea from a vitamine shoppe for $2.50 and it its not bitter at all it tastes really good, o and whats the BAC website?
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    Its www.beyond-a-century.com

    I like the way their green tea tastes too. I like most of anything though.
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    bac is without a doubt the best one stop shop for this stack imo
    just flavor ur teas with lemon and equal never had a prob with the taste
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