Acetyl L-Carnitine (Alcar) and the Anarchy Stack...post in here!

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  1. sounds interesting wojo. I am going to do similar just no nolva not post cycle yet...


  2. Originally posted by pinoy
    so fish oil is a good alternative for the cla? i thought the cla was important for this stack
    Fish oil really is not an alternative for CLA, but at the price/dose ratio I cannot justify buying CLA at my current budget. If you have the cash, definetly buy it as the literature is there, but I have had solid results with just r-ala and ALCAR and GT.
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  3. I too will be going to the Alcar, R-ALA and Green Tea extract only. CLA is to much money for me to justify each month. I am convinced that it will still have very good effects without the CLA.

  4. Originally posted by wojo

    very nice especially with the vin..how has that worked for u?
    The vin is great, well I should say the vin/DMAE has been great since I haven't taken one without the other. There wouldn't be any real noticeable difference if it weren't for the fact that I'm in school so I'm always studying. It has helped me as far as memory and concentration. The only physical difference I have noticed is in the morning. I usually drag ass when I first wake up, but with vin/DMAE I wake up immediately, it's a little hard to describe, but there's no lag time, you go from asleep to totally awake and alert.

  5. Originally posted by pinoy
    so fish oil is a good alternative for the cla? i thought the cla was important for this stack
    I didn't choose to replace CLA with fish oil it's just that I always take fish oil and I'm not taking CLA. This is due solely to the cost.
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  6. OT: Windwords, please check your PM's! Thank You.

  7. Originally posted by JWest0926
    OT: Windwords, please check your PM's! Thank You.
    Ready when you are.

  8. tried asking this on its own but ill put it in here too:

    Would it be good/safe or even ok to stack San's tight with the Alcar/GreenTea/ALA stack (minus CLA)? or would there be too many things poppin off in my brain from the combo of the alcar and the extra stuff in tight (especially Vinpocetine 99.9% 5 mg BioperineŽ 96.9% 5 mg )
    any help would be apreciated

  9. extremely safe imo

  10. Originally posted by windwords7
    Alright guys. I have gotten PM's about this and now we a very good source for one stop shopping the Anarchy Stack ingredients. Just go to:

    http://powernutrition.net/store/default.php?cPath=37

    And tell them WW7 sent ya.

    Nice. Now we just need them to get some R-ALA.

    BTW, started the stack yesterday. I am concluding a 1-test/test/3-Alpha cycle and am curious to see how much of the strength gains I can maintain.

  11. Keep us posted Kow!

  12. there r cheaper alternatives but that link should help a lot

  13. BAC is also a pretty good place to buy all the stuff needed for this stack..

  14. want one stop shopping? all u hadda do is ask
    1fast400.com
    beyond-a-century.com
    BOTH THESE SITES ALONE BLOW THOSE PRICES AWAY
    see i dont mind paying a little extra for shipping when u compare say bac's alcar 120 caps 500mg for 19.95 with now's from pn for 100 caps of 500mgs for 24 bucks(kinda takes care of shipping huh especially if u buy 2)

    BUT LIKE I SAID THAT LINK SHOULD HELP!!

  15. I've been meaning to post this for a few days. I started TKD on 6/5, and the Anarchy Stack on 6/9. I weigh myself on Sunday mornings and on a partial week of TKD only was down 1 lb, and after a week of both TKD and Anarchy Stack was down another 2 lbs.

    I'm splitting my CLA and EFA's into separate days, and here is the breakdown of how I'm dosing the Anarchy Stack:

    Day A:
    Breakfast - 500 mg of NOW Alcar, 2g of NOW CLA, 400 mg NOW Green Tea, 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA.

    Lunch - 500 mg of NOW Alcar, 2g of NOW CLA, 400 mg NOW Green Tea, 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA.

    Pre-workout - 500 mg of NOW Alcar, 400 mg NOW Green Tea, 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA.

    Post Workout (dinner on non-wo days) - 2g of NOW CLA and 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA

    Before Bed - 2g of NOW CLA and 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA

    Day B:
    Breakfast - 500 mg of NOW Alcar, 1/2 Tbsp HFS Total EFA Oil, 400 mg NOW Green Tea, 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA.

    Lunch - 500 mg of NOW Alcar, 400 mg NOW Green Tea, 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA.

    Pre-workout - 500 mg of NOW Alcar, 400 mg NOW Green Tea, 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA.

    Post Workout (dinner on non-wo days) - 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA

    Before Bed - 1/2 Tbsp HFS Total EFA Oil and 100mg of 1fast 400 R-ALA

    Biotin - still getting 250 mcg between my multi and my B-100 Complex. Today, my order from easypricematch.com arrived and will be adding 600 mcg Twinlab Biotin at both breakfast and Post Workout.

    Workout - Changed from a 3 day split to a 5 day split because I ran out of steam at the end of my workouts with a 3 day split. Was doing 45 mintues of cardio 2 days a week, but have switched to 15 minutes of cardio first thing in the morning 6 days a week. Both changes should make a boost in overall metabolism.

    ~Todd

  16. i was gonna say add some biotin but you got that coming looks pretty solid bro

  17. Looks good bro. There's been some speculation that a TKD or CKD or any real low carb diet is not the best addition to the stack, but again that is speculation. The theory behind it is that since its mainly acting on glucose-based channels, the lack of glucose would be diminishing returns from a few of the components, namely the r-ala and CLA. That said, no one really knows and keep us updated.

  18. Besides the financial considerations, the TKD was the primary reason my dosages of CLA and r-ALA were about 1/2 of what other people were doing.

    Scottyo and motleybreu, thanks for the feedback and encouragement. I'll make another post sometime after I weigh in on Sunday.

    ~Todd

  19. Wojo, have you bought all your productst at BAC? I have never bought from them. What was your total cost and what did you think of the quality. 1fast has been my only online supplement shop forever.

  20. BAC has always been good to me....both in quality and price. however, for conveince Ive switched to 1fast for my r-ala. It was a bit tough measuring BAC's r-ala powder compared to their other products, and I get my protein from Mike anyways.

  21. i just bought the Alcar from BAC. i found that vitamin shoppe, which is a close supp store to me, has the cheapest green tea extract out of everywhere i've looked. Picked up some biotin a few weeks ago, that stuff is cheap anyway. I'm gonna use up my ALA before i get some from 1fast. I'm not very familiar with powders and stuff from BAC....yet

  22. Some brief background info forst:
    I recently went from 200 to 150 pounds in the matter of about 2 and a half months or so due to a life-threating condition. the vast majority of the weight I lost was muscle. The first time i tried to work out when i became weel (about 4 weeks ago) i dropped 165 on the squat rack, after having a best max of around 420.

    I was deeply wooried anout ballooning up when i started eating because my LBM was so low, and because I gain fat so easily anyway. so, i went on a very ligh HST program, and started the Anarchy stack in an effort to try and help with nutrient partitioning. I am also running a small stack of 19nor and 4ad.

    after 3 weeks, i could not be happier. My body composition is vastly improving, with virtually np increase in fat. i totally dropped cardio, and still gained no fat, which is very unusual for me. To me, the anarchy stack is unbeleivable tool in helping to prevent body fat accrual and to distribute nutrients to muscle instaed. basically, I did 5 grams CLA, 500mg ALC, 300mg ALA, and 250mg of green tea 3 times per day. One of the best things Ive ever out in my body.

  23. good to hear that custom, keep it up!

  24. Originally posted by motleybreu
    i just bought the Alcar from BAC. i found that vitamin shoppe, which is a close supp store to me, has the cheapest green tea extract out of everywhere i've looked. Picked up some biotin a few weeks ago, that stuff is cheap anyway. I'm gonna use up my ALA before i get some from 1fast. I'm not very familiar with powders and stuff from BAC....yet
    green tea from vitaminshoppe? no way? actually i mentioned that about 3 pages ago..i get no respect..lmao

  25. listen wojo...don't make me start cuttin ya up!!!

    you gave me the idea...all hail master wojo
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