Acetyl L-Carnitine (Alcar) and the Anarchy Stack...post in here!

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  1. Originally posted by motleybreu
    this is a very informative thread...considering doing the anarchy stack myself now lol...lot of good info in here
    Yeah MB, I am very excited about the multiple benefits this stack provides.


  2. since i dont know you to well whatre your stats...height, weight, goals...just comparing myself and trying to get as much info as possible before i start..
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  3. and doses

  4. CoQ10 (Coenzyme Q10)
    CoQ10 is a vitamin-like compound also called ubiquinone. It is an essential component of cells and is utilized by the mitochondria in the normal process of energy production. It helps convert food into energy at a very basic, cellular level and it is an antioxidant. CoQ10 (Coenzyme Q10) is one in a series of ubiquinones, naturally occurring compounds produced in nearly every cell of the body, and was discovered as recently as 1957. This Coenzyme Q10 is the highest quality available and synergistically blended with Bioperine™ which has been demonstrated to aid in absorption.

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    Common Uses for CoQ10:

    Improves the heart and circulation in those with congestive heart failure, a weakened heart muscle (cardiomyopathy), high blood pressure, heart rhythm disorders, chest pain (angina), or Raynaud's disease.

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    The primary function of CoQ10 (coenzyme Q10) is as a catalyst for metabolism - the complex chain of chemical reactions during which food is broken down into packets of energy that the body can use. Acting in conjunction with enzymes, the compound speeds up the vital metabolic process, providing the energy that the cells need to digest food, heal wounds, maintain healthy muscles, and perform countless other bodily functions. Because of the nutrient's essential role in energy production, it's not surprising that it is found in every cell in the body. It is especially abundant in the energy-intensive cells of the heart, helping this organ beat more than 100,000 times each day. In addition, coenzyme Q10 acts as an antioxidant, much like vitamins C and E, helping to neutralize the cell-damaging molecules known as free radicals.

    CoQ10 (Coenzyme Q10) may play a role in preventing cancer, heart attacks, and other diseases linked to free-radical damage. It's also used as a general energy enhancer and anti-aging supplement. Because levels of the compound diminish with age (and with certain diseases), some doctors recommend daily supplementation beginning about age 40.

    CoQ10 has generated much excitement as a possible therapy for heart disease, especially congestive heart failure or a weakened heart. In some studies, patients with a poorly functioning heart have been found to improve greatly after adding the supplement to their conventional drugs and therapies. Other studies have shown that people with cardiovascular disease have low levels of this substance in their heart. Further research suggest that CoQ10 may protect against blood clots, lower high blood pressure, diminish irregular heartbeats, treat mitral valve prolapse, lessen symptoms of Raynaud's disease (poor circulation in the extremities), and relieve chest pains (angina).

    A few small studies suggest that CoQ10 may prolong survival in those with breast or prostate cancer, though results remain inconclusive. It also appears to aid healing and reduce pain and bleeding in those with gum disease, and speed recovery following oral surgery. CoQ10 shows some promise against Parkinson's and Alzheimer's Diseases and fibromyalgia, and it may improve stamina in those with AIDS. Certain practitioners believe the nutrient helps stabilize blood sugar levels in people with diabetes. There are many other claims make for CoQ10 that it slows aging, aids weight loss, enhances athletic performance, combats chronic fatigue syndrome, relieves multiple allergies, and boosts immunity.

    For daily supplementation, the dosage range is from 30 - 100 mg, with the most common dosage at 30 mg. It takes up to eight weeks to see results with CoQ10. There are no known significant side effects or drug interactions.

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  5. pretty good stuff
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  6. a great place to start if u missed it


    Originally posted by windwords7


    LMAO- http://www.animalkits.be/phpBB/viewt...orum=1&224

    Another Admin here swears by it in combonation with ALA and CLA which is now called the "anarchy stack". Yeah the stack works and works well. 28 pounds in 2 months with little to no muscle loss is outsanding!
    such a good post wanted to rpost it in case anyone missed it

  7. what you guys think of using ala and r-ala instead of ala and cla? cla is just so damn expensive

  8. Originally posted by motleybreu
    what you guys think of using ala and r-ala instead of ala and cla? cla is just so damn expensive
    Just use R-ala and Alcar if your going to cut something out but if you can afford to, I would try to the CLA as well.

  9. using reg and -rala together is pointless imo
    here
    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ht=ala+info%2A

  10. Wow. Kilosports has Green Tea Extracts 1000 count ( 50% 50mg Polyphenols) for 29.95. Not a bad deal at all!

  11. Originally posted by wojo
    using reg and -rala together is pointless imo
    here
    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ht=ala+info%2A
    yes, one or the other, my preference is R.

  12. yea thats what i thought...even though CLA is a chief component in the stack i just can't afford it..12-15g is a lot of money. i can't wait to start

  13. Originally posted by jweave23


    yes, one or the other, my preference is R.
    After this bottle, R-Ala will be my choice.

  14. This thread has gotten pretty scattered. Could someone recap the stack and the best places they have found them in one reply?

  15. Originally posted by NPursuit
    This thread has gotten pretty scattered. Could someone recap the stack and the best places they have found them in one reply?
    Min Dosing of Ingredients of Anarchy Stack:

    Alcar- 2 doses of 500mg daily

    CLA- 3-4 grams per meal

    Option 1) ALA- 600mg per meal (unless your eating like 8 times a day then you will probably want to do 300mg per meal).

    Option 2) R-ALA 200mg per meal

    Green Tea- At least half a gallon a day of liquid and if you supplement pop a couple pills per meal.

  16. Thankya Wind. I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's results. I'm going to hold off a bit myself. I just have way too many supps in my regiment right now.

  17. you'll have to wait a little while for my results hehe i'm not ready to cut i'm also gonna do 2 weeks of ucp-1

  18. Originally posted by NPursuit
    Thankya Wind. I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's results. I'm going to hold off a bit myself. I just have way too many supps in my regiment right now.
    lol, tell me about it, that's why I'm not doing it now! I'm going to try it post cycle though.

  19. The Anarchy stack is not just for cutting. Thats the great benefit of it. It simply aids in fat burning AND muscle building/anti catabolism and is thus being considered teh Holy Grail of BBing. WW7's dosing is pretty accurate, but you can very it up a bit. Personally, I have not used the CLA even though I know its benefits, but since the funds are not great I have stuck with r-ala, alcar, biotin and green tea and really like it.
    Dosing is:
    Alcar 500mgx3-4 times a day
    r-ala 200mg 3-4 times a day
    Green tea-varies but a few cups and multiple caps a day
    Biotin-2mg 4 times a day (or 3 3 times)

    Theoretically, one of CLA's major benefits is its anticatobolic properties, and as I am coming off a lean bulking cycle I don't have as much of a need for it.
    Also, let us know how the COq 10 is. I have heard mentions of replacing the ala with it as they do similar functions. Wondering on the cost/benefit ratio of this.

  20. Oh BTW, I just had some of the best pumps of my life in the gym tonight. It was outstanding. My muscles were so engorged with blood it was incredible. Vascularity has already increased and I did not expect either thing to happen. I found out from a vet of the stack that it is normal! Whoo hoo!

  21. Each day on Alcar has been better than the last so far. I may go to a gram and half a day here before to long. Running 12-15 grams a day now of CLA and 1800mg a day of ALA.

  22. I have a question about the timing of taking ALA on this stack. ALA is supposed to help stabilize blood sugar levels, right? So what happens if I consume, say, five meals a day, three of them p+c, two of them p+f. Would I only want to take the ALA (or r-ALA) with the p+c meals? Would this affect the timing of taking the CLA? Thanks.

    -RM

  23. Originally posted by RM BiggaFigga
    I have a question about the timing of taking ALA on this stack. ALA is supposed to help stabilize blood sugar levels, right? So what happens if I consume, say, five meals a day, three of them p+c, two of them p+f. Would I only want to take the ALA (or r-ALA) with the p+c meals? Would this affect the timing of taking the CLA? Thanks.

    -RM
    It may a little but I think consistency matters most here. I take ALA everytime I eat or drink a shake period. 300-600 per meal/shake.

  24. keep it up and keep us informed ww7. I can't wait to try this stuff lol im pysched
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