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Old 05-23-2003, 07:23 PM   #61
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Told ya ALCAR just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside (not really, but you do notice it thats for sure).
 
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Old 05-23-2003, 07:55 PM   #62
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Told ya ALCAR just makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside (not really, but you do notice it thats for sure).
Ive only done a half a gram and man do I feel great!
 



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Old 05-24-2003, 02:26 AM   #63
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might be a nice compliment to alcar..talked about a lot on animalsboard too..taken from another site..btw it is cheap as hell
Vinpocetine , Vinpocetine is a powerful brain and memory enhancer that may yet eclipse all other smart drugs. Vinpocetine , it improves blood flow to the brain, makes it easier for the brain to use glucose and oxygen, and allows the brain to survive longer and better after periods of oxygen deprivation.

Vinpocetine is also known as: Cavinton; VinRx; Periwinkle; myrtle Vincapervinc; cezayirmeneksesi.

Health Benefits:
Vinpocetine increases the production of Adenosine Triphosphate(ATP) within the Brain's Neurons.
Vinpocetine may prevent and help to treat Alzheimer's Disease.
Vinpocetine improves Blood Circulation within the Brain.
Vinpocetine prevents and treats Multiple Infarct Dementia.
Vinpocetine alleviates Depression in 74% of cases.
Vinpocetine improves the Brain's utilization of Glucose.
Vinpocetine alleviates Headaches in 78% of Patients.
Vinpocetine improves Memory in normal healthy persons.
Vinpocetine Healthy subjects exhibited significant Short-Term Memory improvement 1 hour after taking 40mg of Vinpocetine(62%).
Vinpocetine improves the Brain's utilization of Oxygen and increases the resistance of Neurons to the damage that would otherwise be caused by Hypoxia.
Vinpocetine alleviates Speech Impairment in 55% of cases.
Vinpocetine prevents and treats Stroke

Sleep Disorders:
Vinpocetine alleviates several types of Sleep disorders.
Vinpocetine alleviates Insomnia

Eyesight:
Vinpocetine improves Eyesight in many persons afflicted with Eyesight disorders.

Hearing:
Vinpocetine improves impaired Hearing
Vinpocetine alleviates Vertigo in 77% of patients.

Sexual Systems - Females:
The side-effects of Female Menopause respond well to Vinpocetine.

Vinpocetine use was introduced first into eastern European countries in the mid-1970s, for medical treatment of cerebrovascular disorders such as stroke, and hardening or blockage of brain arteries. In one clinical study of Vinpocetine, stroke patients were asked to memorize a list of ten words. Without Vinpocetine the subjects were able to memorize an average of six. After four weeks treatment with Vinpocetine the average went up to ten words.

As Vinpocetine’s use became more widespread, physicians began using it to successfully treat the mental impairment caused by these medical conditions and as a potent neuroprotective supplement.

Several brain boosters (ginkgo biloba, vitamin E, phosphatidylserine, to name just a few) are known to help restore failing memory, but Vinpocetine dramatically enhances memory in even healthy individuals. It also acts as a potent neuroprotective supplement.

Strong clinical evidence exists that, in addition to its brain boosting properties, Vinpocetine’s ability to improve blood flow also helps protect brain and heart function; prevent macular degeneration, (a leading cause of blindness in the elderly); improve hearing and inner ear problems; and even lessen depression and fatigue.




Side-Effects of Vinpocetine:
Vinpocetine has no adverse interactions with other Smart Drugs or Pharmaceutical Drugs and the following side-effects occur in only 1% of Vinpocetine users.

Vinpocetine occasionally causes (transient) Hypotension (lowered Blood Pressure)
Vinpocetine can (rarely) cause (transient) Tachycardia.
Vinpocetine can (rarely) cause Dry Mouth.

Contraindications:
People who are prone to Hypotention (low Blood Pressure) should reduce the recommended dosage and monitor their Blood Pressure whilst using Vinpocetine.
Vinpocetine Should not be used by Females during Pregnancy.


Dosage Recommendations:
Commencement dosage: 15-30mg first time used
Maintenance dosage: 10mg per day
Maintenance dosage for Alzheimer's disease: 15mg per day


Please note: This statement has not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, cure, or prevent any disease.

References
Ishchenko MM, et al. “The effect of kavinton (vinpocetine) and korglycon on the central and cerebral hemodynamics of patients with an ischemic stroke in stenoses and occlusions of the major cerebral arteries.” Lik Sprava (6):120-4, Aug 1998.

Tohgi, H., Sasaki, K. Chiba, K., Nozaki, Y. “Effect of vinpocetine on oxygen release of hemoglobin and erythrocyte organic polyphosphate concentrations in patients with vascular dementia of the Binswanger type. Arzneim-Forsch 40(I), 6, 640-643, Jun 1990.

Akopov, SE, Gabrielian, ES. “Effects of aspirin, dipyridamole, nifedipine and cavinton (vinpocetine) which act on platelet aggregation induced by different aggregating agents alone and in combination.” Eur J Clin Pharmacol 42, 257-259, 1992.

Hayakawa, M. “Effect of vinpocetine on red blood cell deformability in stroke patients.” Arzneim-Forsch 42 (I), 4, 425-427, Apr 1992.

Miyazaki, M. “The effect of a cerebral vasodilator, vinpocetine, on cerebral vascular resistance evaluated by the Doppler ultrasonic technique in patients with cerebrovascular diseases.” Angiology 46(1):53-8, Jan 1995.

Kiss B, Karpati E. “Mechanism of action of vinpocetine.” Acta Pharm Hung 66(5):213-24, Sep 1996.

Rischke R, Krieglstein J. “Protective effect of vinpocetine against brain damage caused by ischemia.” Jpn J Pharmacol 56(3):349-56, Jul 1991.
 
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Old 05-24-2003, 02:28 AM   #64
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looks like i will be going with
r-ala
green tea extract
vin and
alcar of course

oops forgot the biotin
 
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Looks good bro....how cheap and where for the vin. i know BJ was a huge fan of it along with the piracetam. If its cheap Ill add it in.
 
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Old 05-24-2003, 05:30 PM   #66
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ok vitaminshoppe has it
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/browse/...e=SearchResult
as does kilo..kilos price is 70 bucks for 1000 10mg tabs (u only need 3 a day)
im gonna buy 180 cap bottle from VS first and try it out. if its good to go i'll buy the bulk from kilo
btw heres a cheap site for the piracetam if interested(well as cheap as that stuff gets lol)
http://www.livingnaturally.com/shop/...vate_product=1
 
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Old 05-24-2003, 06:12 PM   #67
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Well I just downed my second Alcar a second ago. That first one lasts along time but I want to get to a gram a day and I finally felt ready to take a second one. Took the first around 8:00am. Other than that having no problems with CLA and ALA that I can speak of yet. Will let you know.
 



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Old 05-24-2003, 06:22 PM   #68
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Just saw BAC has vin at 120tabs of 5mg for 10.50 or 50grams powder for 8.50.

Also, has it mixed with huperizine


Gotta do more research on these myself. let me know your results. I think the pir is a bit pricey for my tastes.
 
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Old 05-24-2003, 07:56 PM   #69
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yep pir is def pricey..but im def gonna run the vin so i will let ya know and thanx for the prices with bac looks like that will be my one stop shop
 
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Bumped my CLA to 12-15 grams a day, my Alcar is 1G a day, and my ALA is 300-600mg per meal (4-5) times a day.

I have smelly piss from the ala and I feel warmer all the time. That's about it for now.
 



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Old 05-25-2003, 01:53 PM   #71
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Oh, I added in Q 10 as well starting today.
 



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yeah my piss smelled like burning rubber..why q-10? think ur gonna love cla at that dose ...so ur not having any probs with alcar on effexor ww7? my gf is on that and i wanna get her on alcar
 
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Q10 is just another awesome free radical eliminator. It's cheap and a pharm company overseas is actually selling Alcar, Q10 and ALA as a drug. So I figured why not add it.

I am on Serzone and I am having no problems with the Alcar and it combined. I see no reason, from what I have read, that it would interefere with a anti-d but you would have to test it out on yourself and see how you reacted. Just MO.
 



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ok got ya..damn wish i would have known about the q-10 i just made my order from bac gonna do some research into it..nac might be of some note too
 
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this is a very informative thread...considering doing the anarchy stack myself now lol...lot of good info in here
 
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this is a very informative thread...considering doing the anarchy stack myself now lol...lot of good info in here
Yeah MB, I am very excited about the multiple benefits this stack provides.
 



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since i dont know you to well whatre your stats...height, weight, goals...just comparing myself and trying to get as much info as possible before i start..
 
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