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    a great place to start if u missed it


    Originally posted by windwords7


    LMAO- http://www.animalkits.be/phpBB/viewt...orum=1&224

    Another Admin here swears by it in combonation with ALA and CLA which is now called the "anarchy stack". Yeah the stack works and works well. 28 pounds in 2 months with little to no muscle loss is outsanding!
    such a good post wanted to rpost it in case anyone missed it

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    what you guys think of using ala and r-ala instead of ala and cla? cla is just so damn expensive
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    Originally posted by motleybreu
    what you guys think of using ala and r-ala instead of ala and cla? cla is just so damn expensive
    Just use R-ala and Alcar if your going to cut something out but if you can afford to, I would try to the CLA as well.
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    using reg and -rala together is pointless imo
    here
    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ht=ala+info%2A
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    Wow. Kilosports has Green Tea Extracts 1000 count ( 50% 50mg Polyphenols) for 29.95. Not a bad deal at all!
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    Originally posted by wojo
    using reg and -rala together is pointless imo
    here
    http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ht=ala+info%2A
    yes, one or the other, my preference is R.
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    yea thats what i thought...even though CLA is a chief component in the stack i just can't afford it..12-15g is a lot of money. i can't wait to start
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    Originally posted by jweave23


    yes, one or the other, my preference is R.
    After this bottle, R-Ala will be my choice.
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    This thread has gotten pretty scattered. Could someone recap the stack and the best places they have found them in one reply?
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    Originally posted by NPursuit
    This thread has gotten pretty scattered. Could someone recap the stack and the best places they have found them in one reply?
    Min Dosing of Ingredients of Anarchy Stack:

    Alcar- 2 doses of 500mg daily

    CLA- 3-4 grams per meal

    Option 1) ALA- 600mg per meal (unless your eating like 8 times a day then you will probably want to do 300mg per meal).

    Option 2) R-ALA 200mg per meal

    Green Tea- At least half a gallon a day of liquid and if you supplement pop a couple pills per meal.
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    Thankya Wind. I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's results. I'm going to hold off a bit myself. I just have way too many supps in my regiment right now.
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    you'll have to wait a little while for my results hehe i'm not ready to cut i'm also gonna do 2 weeks of ucp-1
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    Originally posted by NPursuit
    Thankya Wind. I'm looking forward to hearing everyone's results. I'm going to hold off a bit myself. I just have way too many supps in my regiment right now.
    lol, tell me about it, that's why I'm not doing it now! I'm going to try it post cycle though.
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    The Anarchy stack is not just for cutting. Thats the great benefit of it. It simply aids in fat burning AND muscle building/anti catabolism and is thus being considered teh Holy Grail of BBing. WW7's dosing is pretty accurate, but you can very it up a bit. Personally, I have not used the CLA even though I know its benefits, but since the funds are not great I have stuck with r-ala, alcar, biotin and green tea and really like it.
    Dosing is:
    Alcar 500mgx3-4 times a day
    r-ala 200mg 3-4 times a day
    Green tea-varies but a few cups and multiple caps a day
    Biotin-2mg 4 times a day (or 3 3 times)

    Theoretically, one of CLA's major benefits is its anticatobolic properties, and as I am coming off a lean bulking cycle I don't have as much of a need for it.
    Also, let us know how the COq 10 is. I have heard mentions of replacing the ala with it as they do similar functions. Wondering on the cost/benefit ratio of this.
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    You all should really read some the of testimonies of being on this stack:

    http://www.animalkits.be/phpBB/viewt...08&forum=1&144

    http://www.animalkits.be/phpBB/viewt...54&forum=1&225
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    Oh BTW, I just had some of the best pumps of my life in the gym tonight. It was outstanding. My muscles were so engorged with blood it was incredible. Vascularity has already increased and I did not expect either thing to happen. I found out from a vet of the stack that it is normal! Whoo hoo!
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    Each day on Alcar has been better than the last so far. I may go to a gram and half a day here before to long. Running 12-15 grams a day now of CLA and 1800mg a day of ALA.
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    I have a question about the timing of taking ALA on this stack. ALA is supposed to help stabilize blood sugar levels, right? So what happens if I consume, say, five meals a day, three of them p+c, two of them p+f. Would I only want to take the ALA (or r-ALA) with the p+c meals? Would this affect the timing of taking the CLA? Thanks.

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    Originally posted by RM BiggaFigga
    I have a question about the timing of taking ALA on this stack. ALA is supposed to help stabilize blood sugar levels, right? So what happens if I consume, say, five meals a day, three of them p+c, two of them p+f. Would I only want to take the ALA (or r-ALA) with the p+c meals? Would this affect the timing of taking the CLA? Thanks.

    -RM
    It may a little but I think consistency matters most here. I take ALA everytime I eat or drink a shake period. 300-600 per meal/shake.
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    keep it up and keep us informed ww7. I can't wait to try this stuff lol im pysched
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    Originally posted by motleybreu
    keep it up and keep us informed ww7. I can't wait to try this stuff lol im pysched
    Will do MB. I have a feeling this will be a life long stack that provides so many benefits.
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    OK, I am officially HOT all the time now. Whew, am I ever getting warm, especially at night.
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    thats prob a side effect of the cla and r-ala
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    Originally posted by wojo
    thats prob a side effect of the cla and r-ala
    I think its a good thing....
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    yep def..animal complained of it too..both compounds have a effect on insulin
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    Well today is my 6th day and over all I am feeling good. I do feel better on this stack overall. That said I have only lost 1 pound and I honestly don't know if I should expect too much yet. I do feel like I look leaner but I can not back that up with measurements at this time so we will see.

    I bumped the Alcar to 1.5 grams yesterday, adding one more pill before my workout, and felt great though my heart rate got up there quite a bit during cardio. I do not have problems sleeping on Alcar.

    Other than that I am still at 12-15 grams a day of CLA and 1.8grams a day of ALA and drinking green tea like theres no tomorrow. I will be adding in a green tea extract pill soon.
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    ALCAR IMPROVES SLEEP ..ACTUALLY QUALITY AND LESSENS DURATION BECAUSE OF THE IMPROVED QUALITY
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    That's still up in the air scientifically. But I do also feel better in the mornings when taking it. However, I do believe the ALCAR stacked with a high quality decaf green tea extract (a la theanine) will improve sleep for most.
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    decaf for me also..damn acid reflux and ibs..caffeine puts me down hard
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    Problem for me is I got this 4x extract from BAC. The stuff is so strong (im guessing the theanine) without caffiene, that if I take it anytime before a few hours before bed I am a walking zombie. The first week I took it around the clock, and was wondering why my morning ECA felt like nothing.
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    LOL, that sucks scotty. I've been drinking a 50/50 combo of caf/decaf tea. I dont like to much caf either.
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    Still plugging along. Looking forward to the three week mark to see where I am at.
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    Well I am upping my ALA dosing to 900-1200mg per heavy carb meals and 600mg on lower carb meals. I looked definately leaner at the gym today. No BF measurements yet but I can say that I am confident that it is doing something AND I have lost no weight which means I am maintaining/gaining LBM while losing fat. I like it a lot.
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    ok my damn alcar has not arrived..bac is taking forever considering i paid for 2nd day shipping b8ut anyway..im running 15 grams of cla ,1800mgs of ala(r-ala next week) and 15 caps of vitaminshoppes green tea extract(30%egcgs..i could care less about the polyphenols)..and i cant keep my damn pants up i need a friggin belts after a week but i havent lost any weight im at 187 5'6
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    oh yeah and 30mgs of vin a day and loving it more focused and seem to be happier..lol..seriously
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    I need to get some green tea extract pills.
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    yep the prob with drinking the tea is there is no way to gauge how much egcg's ur getting unless its listed on the box..and i have yet to see that anywhere on a teabag box
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    I may be going to the vitamin shop this weekend.
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    Has anyone found a great Green Tea extract for a good price out there. NO watered down version, a good extract with high levels of egcgs?
  

  
 

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