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    JohnyQs winter lean bulk:Dermacrine,ZMK,Somnidren-GH,& leviathan reloaded -sponsored


    I planned to run Dermacrine this month as part of a winter bulk. Millennium sports technologies and Palo alto labs were both nice enough to select me to log their respective products together.

    Please see the product write ups here:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/mille...mnidre-gh.html
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/mille...zmk-write.html
    Topical Testosterone and Androgen support formula for Men
    PAL's NEW Thermogenic.... PAL Releases LEVIATHAN RELOADED!!! WRITE UP Inside!!!


    My goal for this log is a light bulk. My plan of attack:

    1. increase calories slightly. I don't track my food intake anymore, but I have maintained 178-182 for months, so I have a good idea of what I need to eat. My average diet hits an even split on the macros. I intend to add in another small meal, and try to eat a little more at each sitting. I have stocked up on mixed nuts to munch on at work.
    2. Light prefed cardio. Take leviathan reloaded when I wake up, and a little bit later I will be longboarding to work. Travel time is 15 minutes, intensity is moderate. I'll also try to do cardio after workouts, we'll see how that goes.


    Supplements background:

    I am coming off of a log for diesel nutritions ready4war and trib test extreme. This is significant in the fact that R4W is a stim product with both caffeine and yohimbine, so I should be able to handle leviathan reloaded ok. It also means that my test levels may be slightly elevated some already.

    I have never done any sort of prohormone/steroid, so I'm excited about dermacrine.

    Some of the supplements I have taken: RPm/drive, ragnarok, poseidon, swell, abyss, neovar, kreaceps, cordyceps.


    Complete dosing protocol:
    Early morning: leviathan reloaded x2, swell, 30 sprays of Dermacrine after showering.

    morning: MRP shake (whey, oats, greens+, fruit, etc), eGCGx2, MVP-365

    Lunch: MVP-365

    Pre-workout: leviathan reloaded x 2

    Workout: BCAAs if I have them on hand

    Post workout: whey shake in milk

    Dinner: nothing

    Pre bed: ZMK and somnidren-GH



    Stats:


    weight: 181
    ARM: 14 7/8"
    Waist: 14.75
    Bench 1RM: 240
    Deadlift 1RM: 315



    Background:

    I have been back in the game since about May of this year. Before that I had about a 3 year hiatus from the gym, I guess I just wanted to know what it was like to be lazy and fat. I'm still working off some of that collected fat, but I'm fairly happy with what I have accomplished this year. This will be the first time ever I try to actually bulk up some, so don't expect me to put on a ton of weight.

    I'm not obsessive compulsive about dieting/working out. I enjoy things outside of this world including beer and pizza. So if you are an average joe type, this log may be what you are looking for.


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    12/3 Day 1

    ****The only product I currently have in hand is Dermacrine, which I started at lower doses on saturday, and worked up to 30 sprays today.

    I expect to receive everything tomorrow hopefully.


    workout

    Deadlift

    (9/18) --- today
    205x5 --- 205x5
    245x3 --- 245 x 3
    265x3 --- 265 x 3
    270x3 ---
    275x3 --- 275x3
    285x3 --- 285x3
    --------- 290 x3
    295x1 --- 295 x 1



    Bulgarian split squats w/DBs
    last w/o-------today
    25s x 10 ----- 30sx8
    25s x 10 ----- 40sx6
    25sx 10 ----- 40sx6



    Pull throughs
    70x10
    80x8
    90x8


    high rep ab circuit



    no cardio


    dosing

    Dermacrine in the morning.

    3 R4W preworkout since I don't have leviathan yet.




    Overall feelings:


    I have noticed an increase in appetite with the dermacrine. Application for it is painless, and it smells just fine.
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    I'm glad PAL chose you to run Leviathan Reloaded - I'm IN!

    Good Luck bro - I'll be following!

    EDIT: Where are you applying the DERM?
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    Thanks, appreciate the support!


    I'm applying the dermacrine to my boys, my shoulder area, as much of my back as I can reach myself, and with the sprays I have left after that: my chest, stomach and ass.
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    Sweet log man...gtg to lunch right now but will review more later.
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    Damn bro - those pics look nothing like your AVI...

    Have you tried the Som-GH yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew76 View Post
    Damn bro - those pics look nothing like your AVI...

    Have you tried the Som-GH yet?


    It's jon bon jovi. It was a joke, I guess I should change it...


    I haven't tried somnidren-GH. Hopefully it arrives in the mail today along with leviathan reloaded.
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    haha ur dog is lookin at you like WTF in the first pic haha Subbed to this
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    I'm applying the dermacrine to my boys, my shoulder area, as much of my back as I can reach myself, and with the sprays I have left after that: my chest, stomach and ass.
    Hey, slow down for a second... if you are implying that "your boys" are your genitals, then definitly check with Primodial Perf via PM to get a better explanation - Primoridal Performance's main site reads that you should avoid contact with eyes, mouth, and genitals.
    Definitly stop applying down there!
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    It's best applied to Testicles. There's a whole thread about ball-rubbing, but you have to search for it...
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    Somindren-GH came in today, but I have to go to the post office to pick it up. Which means I won't be able to take it until tomorrow night.




    It's supposed to be ok to apply dermacrine to the testicles, I've looked into it. Absorption is said to increase significantly.



    12/4 Day 2

    Still only have dermacrine on hand. I will have somnidren and ZMK tomorrow 100%, not sure about leviathan.


    workout

    DB flat Bench
    50s x 15
    60 x 12
    60s x 12
    60s x 10


    Pulls ups, super set scarecrows
    x10 SS 15s x 8
    x8 SS 15s x 7
    x7 SS 15s x 6


    DB Mil press
    last w/o-----today
    35s x 12----35sx12
    40s x 8 ---- 40sx10
    40s x 7 -----45s x 8
    40s x 7-----45s x 6

    DB shrugs, SS incline DB curls
    70x10 SS 35sx8
    70sx8 SS 35sx6
    70sx8 SS 350sx6


    BB Forearm curls
    55x10
    75x6
    65x7


    15 minutes of cardio on the elliptical


    Dosing

    30 sprays Dermacrine in the morning.

    3 R4W preworkout since I don't have leviathan yet.




    Overall feelings:


    Appetite is still up a little bit.

    I'm feeling good/strong, saw some reps and weight go up today. Still probably getting the effects from the trib test extreme/R4W stack I just finished, which was a solid stack.
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    Subbed! Getcho arse to the PO and let's do this

    Did I mention thanks for helping out? Thanks
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    Thanks for the support everyone.


    Picked up the ZMK/somnidren-GH this morning, can't wait to start



    Today is an off day, so I'm just going to whine quickly:

    Application for dermacrine is getting on my nerves. The biggest problem is I'm not used to showering in the morning, so that extra time + application + drying time is really taking a toll. I'm struggling to get up in time to actually be able to ride my longboard to work (cardio). I'm struggling with the concept of a supplement that interferes with my sleep and exercise. I'm just whining, hopefully I can adjust and get up a little earlier.


    That said, I'm definitely noticing a boost in appetite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    Thanks for the support everyone.


    Picked up the ZMK/somnidren-GH this morning, can't wait to start



    Today is an off day, so I'm just going to whine quickly:

    Application for dermacrine is getting on my nerves. The biggest problem is I'm not used to showering in the morning, so that extra time + application + drying time is really taking a toll. I'm struggling to get up in time to actually be able to ride my longboard to work (cardio). I'm struggling with the concept of a supplement that interferes with my sleep and exercise. I'm just whining, hopefully I can adjust and get up a little earlier.
    Hopefully the benefits of Dermacrine will outweigh having to get up early Interested to see your results.
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    Took the S-GH and ZMK last night. I dosed it under the tongue and will stick with that method.

    I literally passed out within 10 minutes and didn't wake up until the morning. I don't feel tired today, so it must have been decent sleep.


    I plan to do the 5 days on, 2 days off, dosing scheme as outlined by MST. I will take it s/m/t/w/r and off F/S. I usually drink some beer on the weekends, and figure alcohol probably doesn't aid the effects, so this fits my schedule nicely.


    I don't have LR in yet, hopefully its waiting in the mail box now and I can start it tomorrow.


    I'll report back after the gym tonight.
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    Where is your Leviathan!!!! gah!!

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    Very nice glad you enjoyed it and are getting the results i also have great results good luck bro
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    12/6 Day 4

    LR came in today, I'll start it tomorrow morning

    I think I'll start with 1 cap in the morning and 1 pre workout.

    workout
    Box jumps
    16 aerobic steppers stacked, 3 reps, 8 sets


    Reverse lunges, front foot raised
    prev w/o...today
    30sx8 ...... 35s x8
    30sx8 ...... 40s x8
    30sx8 ...... 40s x 7

    Romanian deadlift
    155 x 8
    135 x 8
    135 x8

    Hanging leg raises
    15
    15
    12
    10

    Calf work

    dosing

    30 squirts of dermacrine



    Overall feelings:

    Workout was great.

    Appetite was down a little bit today. Hard to get motivated at work as well for some reason. I think I was just a bit tired.



    Stats:


    Weight: 182 (+1)
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    Just dosed the SM-GH and I feel incredibly relaxed, staying awake at this point takes effort. The time it takes a sublingial dose to effect me seems almost instantaneous.
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    eDIT: So right after posting this i got some shortness of breath and light tingles in my arms and legs. Curious if anyone else is experiencing that.
    Last edited by johnyq; 12-06-2007 at 10:15 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    Just dosed the SM-GH and I feel incredibly relaxed, staying awake at this point takes effort. The time it takes a sublingial dose to effect me seems almost instantaneous.
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    Sleep in heavenly peace bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post

    eDIT: So right after posting this i got some shortness of breath and light tingles in my arms and legs. Curious if anyone else is experiencing that.
    Yep, totally normal....sleep well!
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    Thanks millennium. I had read about shortness of breath from PGHt, but never from an oral GABA product, and I have not experienced it. The shortness of breath kind of woke me up, so it took a bit to fall asleep after that. I understand the directions that say 30 minutes before bed now.

    I had great sleep, although it wasn't coma like compared to wed. I also found I could wake up fairly easy today, and for the first time this week was able to get out the door early enough to longboard to work.


    Took 2 leviathan reloaded when I woke up. Doesn't seem to be a huge stim effect (or maybe I've built up tolerance thanks to R4W), which is good because I hate being stim'd out all day.


    Right now I just feel good, perked up, and ready for the day. I'll report back after the gym.
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    Glad everything went ok i posted before your edit last night might just want to try the dose with water to see if it will lessen the effect for you take care bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    Thanks millennium. I had read about shortness of breath from PGHt, but never from an oral GABA product, and I have not experienced it. The shortness of breath kind of woke me up, so it took a bit to fall asleep after that. I understand the directions that say 30 minutes before bed now.

    I had great sleep, although it wasn't coma like compared to wed. I also found I could wake up fairly easy today, and for the first time this week was able to get out the door early enough to longboard to work.


    Took 2 leviathan reloaded when I woke up. Doesn't seem to be a huge stim effect (or maybe I've built up tolerance thanks to R4W), which is good because I hate being stim'd out all day.


    Right now I just feel good, perked up, and ready for the day. I'll report back after the gym.
    Feeling good and perked is pretty much exactly what we were aiming for, a good clean energy. Being wigged out on caff. all day does nothing more than really hurt fatloss .
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    My body temp is definitely elevated, my head has felt warm all day! Very evident thermogenic effect going on, and it is a lasting effect as well (took LR over 4 hours ago). I'm still feeling good too, no strange stim effects, just feel alert and calm.




    sorry for all the updates, with 3 products all doing their own thing, its the easiest way to say what is going on.
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    12/10 day 8



    Forgot to update after my workout on friday. It was a heavy bench day, and I didn't see any real increase. My higher rep work went up in weight again though. The workout felt great, and I didn't have any DOMS.


    Today is heavy squats, I think my back is 100%.


    Last night, I took S-GH and zmk, and got fairly heavy shortness of breath and some tingles all over arms/legs again, so it wasn't a fluke on thursday. Unfortunately I didn't fall asleep for a while because my dog was acting weird and I got worried about her. I was scared she got into some spent hops which are poisonous to dogs. She's ok


    sleep quality was great, no issues. Waking up was good considering by bed time.


    Leviathan-RL has continued to be a very mild stim feeling. It gets me pretty warm, and keeps me feeling alert. It has not in any way been a heavy/cracked out stim, its been real nice.


    I'm going to track my macros this week. I really want to make the most out of this stack.


    I'll report back after my workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    12/10 day 8



    Forgot to update after my workout on friday. It was a heavy bench day, and I didn't see any real increase. My higher rep work went up in weight again though. The workout felt great, and I didn't have any DOMS.


    Today is heavy squats, I think my back is 100%.


    Last night, I took S-GH and zmk, and got fairly heavy shortness of breath and some tingles all over arms/legs again, so it wasn't a fluke on thursday. Unfortunately I didn't fall asleep for a while because my dog was acting weird and I got worried about her. I was scared she got into some spent hops which are poisonous to dogs. She's ok


    sleep quality was great, no issues. Waking up was good considering by bed time.


    Leviathan-RL has continued to be a very mild stim feeling. It gets me pretty warm, and keeps me feeling alert. It has not in any way been a heavy/cracked out stim, its been real nice.


    I'm going to track my macros this week. I really want to make the most out of this stack.


    I'll report back after my workout.
    great looking forward to the update
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    12/10 Day 9


    workout

    Squat
    11/19 ---today
    135 x8 ---135 x5
    155 x5 ---
    185 x5 ---185 x3
    195 x 3 ---195x3
    205 x 3 ---205x3
    215 x 2 ---215x3
    215 x 1 ---
    ---------- 225x3



    Bulgarian split squats w/DBs
    11/19 -------today
    35s x 6 ----- 40s x 8
    35s x 6 ----- 40s x 8
    35s x 6 ----- 40s x 6



    Roman. deadlift
    135x8
    155x8
    155x8


    Calves

    cardio
    15 minutes at lunch, moderate

    15 minutes post workout, light elliptical

    15 minutes after workout shake, moderate


    dosing
    standard
    morning: 2 lev RL, 30 sprays of dermacrine
    breakfast: shake, MVP-365
    lunch: MVP-365
    pre-workout: 2 lev RL
    dinner: xxx
    pre-sleep: 4 ZMK and somnidren-GH sublingually


    Stats:


    Weight: 179 (-2)



    Macros:


    Tracked my macros for the first time in a while, plus I was trying to pack down the food, and probably ate an extra 500 calories.

    -------grams------cals --------%total
    Total:------------2433
    Fat:-----95 -------854-----------37%
    ---Sat:--36-------322-----------14%
    ---Poly:--9--------78------------3%
    ---Mono:-22------202-----------9%
    Carbs:--259-------825----------35%
    ---Fiber:-53--------0------------0%
    Protein:--162------649-----------28%


    Not perfect, but I'm happy with the amount of protein. I'll cut down the fat/carbs today and should see a better balance, and try to keep the calories up in the process.

    I think I need to get away from using cheese as a protein source ...

    Foods were:
    morning shake, with soymilk, oats, blueberries, whey, raw egg, miracle greens

    snack: cup of organic chocolate milk

    lunch: tempeh sandwich with spinach and broccoli sprouts, and cheese

    snack: half a natural peanut butter sandwich

    post workout: whey shake with 2% milk

    dinner: 2 black bean burritos, hot sauce, cheese, jalepenos



    Overall feelings:





    Finally saw some increases in squat! I've been having some real issues with my squats for a solid month, and haven't been able to add any weight. Very excited to finally see it improve. 300 here I come

    Saw a solid increase in my split squats as well.


    Energy/focus: Very good, even with a hot as hell and overpacked gym. Leviathan RL seems to be working out ok in place of any preworkout supp.

    I've had no problem doing cardio on leviathan RL, although I don't think I'm doing enough of it.


    Somehow my weight went down, first time below 180 in 3 weeks or so.


    Sleep last night was very good. Fell asleep no problem. I woke up a little late, but didn't feel drowsy at all.


    DOMS: No leg soreness, which is fairly amazing after the workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    My body temp is definitely elevated, my head has felt warm all day! Very evident thermogenic effect going on, and it is a lasting effect as well (took LR over 4 hours ago). I'm still feeling good too, no strange stim effects, just feel alert and calm.




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    I noticed that there's no crash from the Leviathan Reloaded, that is something very unique. I have been on it for 4 days now.(1 pill every 2 1/2 hours) 4 pills total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    I noticed that there's no crash from the Leviathan Reloaded, that is something very unique. I have been on it for 4 days now.(1 pill every 2 1/2 hours) 4 pills total.
    very true, I have experienced no crash. I jumped straight into 4 pills a day with no issues at all.

    I'm getting just a few random floaters in my vision, my blood pressure may be elevated. I'll try and convince the wife to get a blood pressure test kit. other than that there have been zero sides.


    I was reading your log and noticed you mentioning dreams. That is something I am experience as well and forgot to mention. Especially last night, very vivid and deep dreams. Sleep has been great.

    loving this stack as far as immediate well being and recovery effects, now I just want to see GAINS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    very true, I have experienced no crash. I jumped straight into 4 pills a day with no issues at all.

    I'm getting just a few random floaters in my vision, my blood pressure may be elevated. I'll try and convince the wife to get a blood pressure test kit. other than that there have been zero sides.


    I was reading your log and noticed you mentioning dreams. That is something I am experience as well and forgot to mention. Especially last night, very vivid and deep dreams. Sleep has been great.

    loving this stack as far as immediate well being and recovery effects, now I just want to see GAINS!
    Yea we're doing the same stack basically. I think it's a great combination of supplements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    very true, I have experienced no crash. I jumped straight into 4 pills a day with no issues at all.

    I'm getting just a few random floaters in my vision, my blood pressure may be elevated. I'll try and convince the wife to get a blood pressure test kit. other than that there have been zero sides.


    I was reading your log and noticed you mentioning dreams. That is something I am experience as well and forgot to mention. Especially last night, very vivid and deep dreams. Sleep has been great.

    loving this stack as far as immediate well being and recovery effects, now I just want to see GAINS!
    awesome bro, great feedback
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    12/11 Day 9

    Still only have dermacrine on hand. I will have somnidren and ZMK tomorrow 100%, not sure about leviathan.


    workout

    DB flat Bench
    12/4--------today
    50s x 15----55sx15
    60 x 12 ----60sx13
    60s x 12----60sx10
    60s x 10----60sx9


    Pulls ups, super set scarecrows
    x11 SS 10sx8
    x8 SS 10sx8
    x8 SS 10sx8


    DB Mil press
    12/4 ----today
    35sx12 -----40sx12
    40sx10 -----45sx8
    45s x 8 -----45sx8
    45s x 6 -----45sx6

    DB shrugs, SS incline DB curls
    70x12 SS 35sx9
    75sx8 SS 35sx6
    75sx8 SS 35sx5


    Farmer's walk
    45 DBs 3 sets of max length


    high rep ab circuit

    Cardio
    25minutes post workout


    Dosing

    Standard



    Overall feelings:


    Workouts have been feeling really good. Lots of energy and focus. Actually kicked out 25 minutes on the boring elliptical after working out. I do have a small amount of DOMs today, which is at least a nice reminder of how good my workout was last night.


    My libido has been pretty normal. The constant random erections from the days of trib test extreme and drive are definitely gone.


    Still getting labored/heavy breathing and tingles from somnidren-GH. It does give me a mild kind of stimulant effect during this time. Once that wears off (maybe 30 minutes max), I'm off to sleep very easy. Waking up is still easy, and today I woke up in time for cardio, but it was wet out.


    LeviathanRL really heated me up today. I have also noticed it seems to effect appetite, I feel fuller and less hungry than normal.



    I have been extremely productive at work, if this keeps up I'm going to owe PAL and MST their cut of my next raise

    I just feel recovered mentally every day, and just have a great mild stim going on from the leviathanRL. I don't sit at work all zombified.
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    12/12 Day 10


    day off


    Cardio

    15 minutes at lunch, longboarding to work

    30 minutes after work, moderate intensity running/jogging



    Overall feelings

    The run went great. I busted out 3 miles at a medium speed, probably 28 minutes or so. I had plenty of energy left afterwards and didn't get out of breath at all. It has been a long time since I got out and ran, so this was surprising. The weather was excellent last night though.


    I'm starting to wonder if I'm one of those people that has anti depressive effects from PEA, because my mood at work has never been better. Not to mention the better sleep.


    My pants appear to getting too loose on me. My belt only has one hole left before I have to get a new one. I'll measure my waist tomorrow and see if the numbers have actually changed.





    RANT, unrelated to the log: Some idiot was playing with his two puppies and his young (2-3 year old) daughter in his yard on a 4 lane busy ass road. I was running with my dog and when I was across the road from them, one of his puppies darted across the street to us. Two cars basically clipped the dogs tail, it was that close. I turn around and grab the dog to hold it while the guy just kind of stammers about. I guess he sees his daughter isn't going to run out, so he starts walking across. Sure enough his other dog follows after he gets about halfway across. He keeps walking towards me and doesn't do anything about his other dog. Luckily that dog was white, so the cars see it and stop. The cars in the other direction have to stop for him as well as he is acting like a dear in the headlights. He grabs the dog I'm holding, and turns around to go back with 4 lanes of traffic honking at him.I really really hope he learned his lesson. It would seem like a lesson that didn't need to be learned.
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    great update brutha....pea makes me feel great too.
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    Yup mood has been one of the biggest improvements i am also leaning out slightly good job
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