- 06-23-2006, 12:13 PM
- 06-23-2006, 01:06 PM
3 weeks has been said to be good because supposidly after 3 weeks gains taper down, but i feel if you are going to spend money on PCT and run a cycle anyway then just go for 4 weeks
- 06-23-2006, 01:30 PM
Originally Posted by AndroAnarchy
I also wanted to ask you bout your diet and work out regimine because if i remembe correctly your like 5ft 7 and 150lbs with over 20% body fat right? Those numbers all seem like your diet and work out is off. I mean i'm by no means huge but right now i'm 5ft 1 approx 150lbs and under 15% bf so we are the same weight and your 6 inches taller than me with a higher bf%
06-23-2006, 04:43 PM
06-23-2006, 05:06 PM
I did with superdrol, even at 10mg for my first cycle. I am currently on day 12 of my second sd cycle and I am running 15mg and haven't noticed a single side. I think I wasn't drinking enough water.Originally Posted by AndroAnarchy
06-23-2006, 05:33 PM
I agree, seems as though his diet is way out of whack. If he could post his diet and workout regime in another thread maybe we could help him out.Originally Posted by mixedup
06-23-2006, 06:23 PM
Go for a 4 weeker... Superdrol is what people seem to say that the gains usualy taper off after 3 weeks, but it kicks in alot faster than pp. I think 4 weeks us optimum for pp imo.Originally Posted by rocknroll
06-23-2006, 11:13 PM
Actually now you weigh at least 50lbs less than me
An update my waist is still etiing thinner and thinner. Weight has held steady so this is awesome
Another way too late workout and another tired day. Next week will be early workout and i can feel it will be awesome.
Dumbell Press: 100 x 6, x 5
Military Press: 185 x 3, 195 x 3, 205 x 2
Standing Press: 185 x 2, 205 x 2
Side Laterals: 50 x 8, 55 x 6
Rear Laterals: 40 x 8, machine 15 x 14
06-24-2006, 01:14 AM
i'm taking a phera knock off and it took a long time to start working. i "think" it just started to work and it's day 9.
06-24-2006, 11:21 AM
I am in the middle of my second week of pp alone and gains have been good so far. Is the 3 rd week supposed to be the best for everyone?:good:
06-24-2006, 11:51 AM
Originally Posted by poppydogg
it is different for everybody what week things kick and what is the best week. Everybody is very different for instance I have been doing this for years and everybody says how s-drol is fast acting good gains right away etc. s-drol for me doesn't even start to kick until around day 10
06-24-2006, 12:24 PM
On my first cycle of superdrol the gains started happening by day 8. I am currently cycling it again and I am on day 13 and the gains have been slower.
06-24-2006, 01:29 PM
06-24-2006, 02:33 PM
We are SO on the same page/timeline and have same questions... I'm on day 13 of standalone PP. FWIW, I read that PCT should take about the same length as your "on" cycle. And then wait at least 6 weeks before beginning to pre-load support supps for another cycle. you want your test to come back up and get everything going again but of course don't want to just turn around and shut it down too quickly. Personally, I will wait until Thanksgiving or Christmas to do another cycle (will be another pp standalone.)Originally Posted by poppydogg
But I'm no expert FOR SURE...I will be interested to see what others have to say about how long to wait. (I suppose we should be searching the PCT forums too... )
06-24-2006, 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by rocknroll
Cycle Length + PCT Length = Wait time minimum
i.e. 4 week cycle + 4 week PCT = 8 weeks minimum before starting another cycle after completion of previous cycle PCT.
that's the rule of thumb I've always heard.
06-24-2006, 03:47 PM
06-24-2006, 05:38 PM
Weight loss was entirely my fault. Another night to forget!! Haha, i am having bad luck lately. Oh well, the cops wouldn't let up on how i am on the juice!!
06-24-2006, 05:54 PM
i am going to begin a phera-plex cycle this week and was wondering what i should supplement in with it? i'll take perfect cycle, but not sure what else. Should I be taking milk thistle/saw palmeto? What else is good with this? Thanks!!:bb2:
06-24-2006, 06:10 PM
is gaspari's novadex good enough for post-cycle as well as on-cycle with phera? Don't have the money to use nolvadex.:bb2: :squat:
06-24-2006, 06:26 PM
06-24-2006, 08:27 PM
06-24-2006, 08:48 PM
06-24-2006, 11:12 PM
I think you are right in Nolva being cheaper than Gaspari's Nova.Originally Posted by Ryan1
I'm running my first pp cycle so I'm no expert but based on what I have read/learned from the great peole here at AM, I would say that you always want to use Nolvadex/Tamoxifen Citrate (or some SERM) and if you are trying to get around it with pp, then the Nolva/SERM should still be something you have on hand in case of signs of gyno. For me, it was the first thing I got, then I began getting other goods for the cycle i.e. the fun stuff.
I don't know anything about using Gaspari's nova while on cycle of for PCT.
Regarding PCT, I believe, along with a SERM, most are going with some other products such as Rebound XT or Rebound Reloaded (to bring test back up and deal with estrogen), Retain or Lean Xtreme (anti-cortisols), ActivaTe, AND/OR COMBOs of some of these and some other stuff such as fenugreek, trib, maca, and the usual support supps. I'm still not sure what I'm going to do for PCT. Definitely Nolva, Retain, Fenu and DHEA. Can't decide if I should add other stuff like Rebound and/or ActivaTe. Seems like overkill. I know what you mean about getting expensive but I also don't want to be too cheap in getting my test back up...FWIW.
06-24-2006, 11:17 PM
Nolva 10/20/20/30? that sound right or is it in reverse? I'm not well experienced as it is prescript and i am not very into that. Althought i would be if not for prior contracts. i.e. the service.
06-24-2006, 11:21 PM
Yeah I think it's in reverse of that. I'm planning on running Nolva 40/30/20.Originally Posted by gotripped
06-24-2006, 11:58 PM
hey rocknroll what are you gonna take for your pct?
i wanna get some ideAs beforehand. Are u gonna do 4 weeks or just 3? Sheesh this thing has been flying by as i will be starting ny 3rd week this coming tuesday (6/27). So far its been great with no sides. Im gonna do my 3rd week at 20mgs then ill decide whether to do a 4th or just goto pct. Thanks!:good:
06-25-2006, 01:02 AM
06-25-2006, 03:29 PM
Right now I have Nolva, Retain, Fenugreek, DHEA. Debating Rebound but was advised it would be overkill. Also debating ActivaTe. Really torn about this. I just one day ahead of you (start 3rd week Monday) and will probably stop at 3 weeks...We'll see. If I go 4 weeks, I will PCT 4 weeks. If I go 3 "on", then 3 for PCT. Haven't been able to search the PCT forums much the last day or two. Will hit the search hard tonight and tomorrow. What are you thinking for PCT?Originally Posted by poppydogg
06-25-2006, 06:45 PM
if i would decide to take nolva instead...how easy is it to get..and what are the sides associated with it?:bb2:
06-25-2006, 10:27 PM
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