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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf
    Don't go over 20 mgs.
    Cool. Will stay at 20mg. (It'll be hard b/c I know I will want to be greedy...but I will keep it at 20mg. especially due to my size at only 185.)

    Would you advise 3 weeks or 4 weeks?


  2. 3 weeks has been said to be good because supposidly after 3 weeks gains taper down, but i feel if you are going to spend money on PCT and run a cycle anyway then just go for 4 weeks
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by AndroAnarchy
    i know that's all really high and crazy but nothing is happening. maybe i got ripped off, who knows. but i did have some heart palpitations when i was taking 30mg so i dropped back to 20mg.

    I also wanted to ask you bout your diet and work out regimine because if i remembe correctly your like 5ft 7 and 150lbs with over 20% body fat right? Those numbers all seem like your diet and work out is off. I mean i'm by no means huge but right now i'm 5ft 1 approx 150lbs and under 15% bf so we are the same weight and your 6 inches taller than me with a higher bf%

  4. Quote Originally Posted by fritzer
    233.5lbs

    Day 12


    Half a pound up after foodpoisining...stomachstill upset today. I cant eat well but i am trying my best. Haha, i counted my calories two days ago and i was over 9000 CALORIES...

    My usual diet must be around 6000+ this is crazy, i have no idea how some people only eat 4500.
    Because I weight 40 lbs less than you, thats how.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by AndroAnarchy
    any of you had problems with heart palpitations?
    I did with superdrol, even at 10mg for my first cycle. I am currently on day 12 of my second sd cycle and I am running 15mg and haven't noticed a single side. I think I wasn't drinking enough water.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by mixedup
    I also wanted to ask you bout your diet and work out regimine because if i remembe correctly your like 5ft 7 and 150lbs with over 20% body fat right? Those numbers all seem like your diet and work out is off. I mean i'm by no means huge but right now i'm 5ft 1 approx 150lbs and under 15% bf so we are the same weight and your 6 inches taller than me with a higher bf%
    I agree, seems as though his diet is way out of whack. If he could post his diet and workout regime in another thread maybe we could help him out.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll
    Cool. Will stay at 20mg. (It'll be hard b/c I know I will want to be greedy...but I will keep it at 20mg. especially due to my size at only 185.)

    Would you advise 3 weeks or 4 weeks?
    Go for a 4 weeker... Superdrol is what people seem to say that the gains usualy taper off after 3 weeks, but it kicks in alot faster than pp. I think 4 weeks us optimum for pp imo.

  8. 247lbs

    Day 49

    Actually now you weigh at least 50lbs less than me

    An update my waist is still etiing thinner and thinner. Weight has held steady so this is awesome

    Shoulders

    Another way too late workout and another tired day. Next week will be early workout and i can feel it will be awesome.

    Dumbell Press: 100 x 6, x 5
    Military Press: 185 x 3, 195 x 3, 205 x 2
    Standing Press: 185 x 2, 205 x 2

    Side Laterals: 50 x 8, 55 x 6
    Rear Laterals: 40 x 8, machine 15 x 14

  9. i'm taking a phera knock off and it took a long time to start working. i "think" it just started to work and it's day 9.

  10. I am in the middle of my second week of pp alone and gains have been good so far. Is the 3 rd week supposed to be the best for everyone?:good:
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by poppydogg
    I am in the middle of my second week of pp alone and gains have been good so far. Is the 3 rd week supposed to be the best for everyone?:good:

    it is different for everybody what week things kick and what is the best week. Everybody is very different for instance I have been doing this for years and everybody says how s-drol is fast acting good gains right away etc. s-drol for me doesn't even start to kick until around day 10

  12. On my first cycle of superdrol the gains started happening by day 8. I am currently cycling it again and I am on day 13 and the gains have been slower.

  13. hey so how long should one wait till another cycle? i prob would do the pp alone again most likely

  14. Quote Originally Posted by poppydogg
    hey so how long should one wait till another cycle? i prob would do the pp alone again most likely
    We are SO on the same page/timeline and have same questions... I'm on day 13 of standalone PP. FWIW, I read that PCT should take about the same length as your "on" cycle. And then wait at least 6 weeks before beginning to pre-load support supps for another cycle. you want your test to come back up and get everything going again but of course don't want to just turn around and shut it down too quickly. Personally, I will wait until Thanksgiving or Christmas to do another cycle (will be another pp standalone.)

    But I'm no expert FOR SURE...I will be interested to see what others have to say about how long to wait. (I suppose we should be searching the PCT forums too... )

  15. Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll
    I will be interested to see what others have to say about how long to wait. (I suppose we should be searching the PCT forums too... )

    Cycle Length + PCT Length = Wait time minimum

    i.e. 4 week cycle + 4 week PCT = 8 weeks minimum before starting another cycle after completion of previous cycle PCT.
    that's the rule of thumb I've always heard.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Viperspit
    Cycle Length + post cycle therapy Length = Wait time minimum

    i.e. 4 week cycle + 4 week PCT = 8 weeks minimum before starting another cycle after completion of previous cycle PCT.
    that's the rule of thumb I've always heard.
    Yea, Time "ON" + PCT = Time Off

  17. 246.5lbs

    Day 50

    Weight loss was entirely my fault. Another night to forget!! Haha, i am having bad luck lately. Oh well, the cops wouldn't let up on how i am on the juice!!

  18. i am going to begin a phera-plex cycle this week and was wondering what i should supplement in with it? i'll take perfect cycle, but not sure what else. Should I be taking milk thistle/saw palmeto? What else is good with this? Thanks!!:bb2:

  19. is gaspari's novadex good enough for post-cycle as well as on-cycle with phera? Don't have the money to use nolvadex.:bb2: :squat:

  20. Quote Originally Posted by fritzer
    246.5lbs

    Day 50

    Weight loss was entirely my fault. Another night to forget!! Haha, i am having bad luck lately. Oh well, the cops wouldn't let up on how i am on the juice!!
    Cops!?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Ryan1
    is gaspari's novadex good enough for post-cycle as well as on-cycle with phera? Don't have the money to use nolvadex.:bb2: :squat:

    I hope you're joking.

  22. isn't novedex xt more expensive than nolva? nolva i thought was fairly damned inexpensive.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Ryan1
    is gaspari's novadex good enough for post-cycle as well as on-cycle with phera? Don't have the money to use nolvadex.:bb2: :squat:
    I think you are right in Nolva being cheaper than Gaspari's Nova.

    I'm running my first pp cycle so I'm no expert but based on what I have read/learned from the great peole here at AM, I would say that you always want to use Nolvadex/Tamoxifen Citrate (or some SERM) and if you are trying to get around it with pp, then the Nolva/SERM should still be something you have on hand in case of signs of gyno. For me, it was the first thing I got, then I began getting other goods for the cycle i.e. the fun stuff.

    I don't know anything about using Gaspari's nova while on cycle of for PCT.

    Regarding PCT, I believe, along with a SERM, most are going with some other products such as Rebound XT or Rebound Reloaded (to bring test back up and deal with estrogen), Retain or Lean Xtreme (anti-cortisols), ActivaTe, AND/OR COMBOs of some of these and some other stuff such as fenugreek, trib, maca, and the usual support supps. I'm still not sure what I'm going to do for PCT. Definitely Nolva, Retain, Fenu and DHEA. Can't decide if I should add other stuff like Rebound and/or ActivaTe. Seems like overkill. I know what you mean about getting expensive but I also don't want to be too cheap in getting my test back up...FWIW.

  24. Nolva 10/20/20/30? that sound right or is it in reverse? I'm not well experienced as it is prescript and i am not very into that. Althought i would be if not for prior contracts. i.e. the service.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by gotripped
    Nolva 10/20/20/30? that sound right or is it in reverse? I'm not well experienced as it is prescript and i am not very into that. Althought i would be if not for prior contracts. i.e. the service.
    Yeah I think it's in reverse of that. I'm planning on running Nolva 40/30/20.
  26. Cool


    hey rocknroll what are you gonna take for your pct?
    i wanna get some ideAs beforehand. Are u gonna do 4 weeks or just 3? Sheesh this thing has been flying by as i will be starting ny 3rd week this coming tuesday (6/27). So far its been great with no sides. Im gonna do my 3rd week at 20mgs then ill decide whether to do a 4th or just goto pct. Thanks!:good:

  27. Quote Originally Posted by rocknroll
    Yeah I think it's in reverse of that. I'm planning on running Nolva 40/30/20.
    what do u recommend for the pct? thnks!

  28. Quote Originally Posted by poppydogg
    what do u recommend for the post cycle therapy? thnks!
    Right now I have Nolva, Retain, Fenugreek, DHEA. Debating Rebound but was advised it would be overkill. Also debating ActivaTe. Really torn about this. I just one day ahead of you (start 3rd week Monday) and will probably stop at 3 weeks...We'll see. If I go 4 weeks, I will PCT 4 weeks. If I go 3 "on", then 3 for PCT. Haven't been able to search the PCT forums much the last day or two. Will hit the search hard tonight and tomorrow. What are you thinking for PCT?

  29. if i would decide to take nolva instead...how easy is it to get..and what are the sides associated with it?:bb2:

  30. phera doesn't aromatize even tho people still use a post cycle
  

  
 

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