- 05-28-2006, 06:28 PM
- 05-29-2006, 01:39 PM
This is crazy! My calories are about 6000 and i am leaning out and getting bigger.
To look at my lifts best way is to go look at my first week then to the last week, Bench from 245 to 275, etc.
Chest and Triceps
Flat Bench: 275 x 8, 285 x 6, 300 x 3 (blah!)
Incline DB Press: 105 x 5, x 3, 95 x 4
Decline DB Press: 95 x 4
Lying Extensions: 145 x 8, 155 x 4
Pulldowns: 180 x 6, 170 x 6
Reverse Pulldown: 70 x 8
I definitly got really tired in my bench workout as the numbers show but 275 x 8 has no complaints
- 05-29-2006, 02:46 PM
Hey Fitzer how are your lbs on your lifts going up? Looks like you are going to hit that 250lb mark.. UP 21lbs so far man your making it hard for me not to jump on my Pmax as soon as it get here this week. LOL
05-29-2006, 04:08 PM
With many people getting 70 to 80% of gains with only 10mgs of superdrol, 5mgs is not really a micro dose. 15mgs of superdrol is probably full dose for most people.Originally Posted by Jason_L
05-29-2006, 07:31 PM
just an update
-I have started Cissus Rx today at 4 caps a day which will continue into PCT for joint support
-Since Week 2 i have take 100mg DHEA a day
-Since Day 22 i have stopped SD and taken 30mg PP to try it out, i have not noticed any major increase in gains, although i am still steadily gaining but much more tired now all day- sleepy
I want you guys to critique my PCT:
Day 1 & 2: 40mg Nolva, 200mg Clomid
Week1: 20mg Nolva, 100mg Clomid, 300mg DHEA, 1.5g Fenugreek, 25mg Rebound XT
Week 2: 20mg Nolva, 100mg Clomid, 200mg DHEA, 1.5g Fenugreek, 50mg Rebound XT
Week 3: 10mg Nolva, 50mg Clomid, 100mg DHEA, 1g Fenugreek, 50mg Rebound XT
Week 4: 10mg Nolva, 100mg DHEA, 0.5g Fenugreek, 75mg Rebound XT
05-29-2006, 08:28 PM
I don't know how bad the shrinkage is with pheraplex, but I was taking 2g a day of fenugreek for the first two weeks of post-cycle therapy with M-TRN, and regretted not taking more
05-29-2006, 08:34 PM
I don't think you need RXT, but I won't go into my in-depth spiel why, save to say you don't need an AI in an already estrogen depleted environment.
05-29-2006, 09:27 PM
I completly understand mulletsoldier. I have been thinking the same thing, but everyone adds it and i already got it
Alright, i will go 3g on Fenugreek, thanks!
Any thoughts on maybe adding in MTST/MTRN, dropping to 20mg PP for week 4 then 10mg for week 5 with the TST/TRN in there... any thoughts, just to be safer on lipids
05-30-2006, 12:42 PM
So so tied... so very tired. 30mg makes me tired...
Back and Biceps
Pulldowns: 270 x 7, 280 x 5, 230 x 6, self x 4
Seated Row: 310 x 6, x 6
Bent Over Row: 255 x 6, x 6
TBar: 4plates x 10, 5 plates x 6
Straight Bar Curl: 155 x 5, x 4, 135 x 6
Dumbell curl: 65 x 6, 75 x 4
Incline Hammer Curl: 50 x 6
Arnold Style Soncentration Curl: 45 x 6
I am blowing up, man this is crazy. I am massive!! Haha, i never expected this! My training+my diet+Pheraplex =
05-30-2006, 02:16 PM
If u r adding in the mtst/trn how much longer r u going to extend the cycle, I would think there would be no use in adding these in unless u r going another four weeks, which would be some serious suppression........
05-30-2006, 02:54 PM
248 man I can't stand it it's a good thing my Matrix came in and I got a comp coming up otherwise I wouldn't be able to stop myself from hopping on the pmax as soon as it gets here. lol
05-31-2006, 02:59 AM
It is time to save your gains and your body, not time to get crazy. Maybe run 20mg of PP until you hit 250 or so. I recommend you do not go above 50 mg of Rebound RXT (ATD). Unnessary and kills libido. Maybe add a little ActivTE for fun.Originally Posted by fritzer
05-31-2006, 03:58 AM
It is bad when I'm the voice of reason, but ok. You should taper into your PCT, don't slam your estrogen down. You should start while you are still on PP. Start tomorrow with 10mg Nolva, 50mg Clomid, 300mg DHEA. Go 3 days like that to let your testosterone (and estrogen) come up. Then 3 days of 20mg Nolva, 75mg Clomid, 300mg DHEA. Then three days adding 25 mg Rebound RXT. In three days go to 100mg Clomid. Drop the PP before you get to 5 weeks on 10 or 20 mg (no 30mg your body does like it)! Your body takes 3 to 4 days to catch up.Originally Posted by fritzer
Ok, your dad (kidding) is done lecturing. I need to go howl at the moon and go to bed.
05-31-2006, 09:55 PM
Today was just a horrible, horrible day in the life of Fritzer. In the gym, actually surprised i even went, i didnt try for the first time this cycle or almost ever.
Squat: 405 x 10, 455 x 4, 425 x 6
Barbell Lunge: 135 x 6, 185 x 5
Anyway, the faster this day comes to an end the better. I am off to bed. Still i guess 405 x 10 for not even trying and not going near failure is still pretty good.
Oh thanks again werewolf i will heed your advice as usual. That plan will commence tomorrow, howver i did take 200mg DHEA and 20mg NOLVA today.
06-01-2006, 02:08 AM
I hope life gets better quickly. Bad days happen, but hopefully not often. Hang in there and try to find the rainbow.
Your body has been good to you (+23lbs) so it time to be good to your body. Treat it the best you can over the next couple of weeks. 20 minutes of sunshine on the lower back twice a week is worth 15% increase in Testosterone. I hope the only reason you are feeling bad is going up to 30 mg again. i might want to look at link below for your break time after this cycle.
06-01-2006, 01:13 PM
Well today is freakin hot hot hot, i gotta go to the zoo, then sign up for more classes, then hit the gym.
Shoulders and Traps
Dumbell Press: 105 x 4, 100 x 5, x 4
Side Laterals: 45 x 6, x 6
Rear Laterals: Machine 30 x 6, dumbell 35 x 6
Dumbell Shrugs: 120 x 8, x 8
Easy street. Haha! Not as good as last week, but that is only because i went right to the 105. Could have easily matched last week.
06-01-2006, 06:28 PM
06-02-2006, 12:47 PM
Ok, I going to play your conscience one more time and remind you when you started that you wanted nice safe cycle. You have totally crushed your goals for adding muscle. Congradulations!
The bad news is time for exit stradegy before you get sick. That is last thing you want at this time. Plenty of rest and good food. It is time to give your liver a break. I think 15 mg for a couple of days, 10mg for 3 or 4 days and then out. Continuing to ramp up your PCT as you are ramping down the Pher-Plex to maximize the gains you keep. Time to cash in those great gains.
And again congradulations!
06-02-2006, 09:09 PM
Ok you are totally right. It is easy to get carried away. This will be my last big doser then ramp down
06-03-2006, 12:08 AM
Calves, Abs, and Forearms
Standing Calf Raises: 3 plates a side x 10, x 10
Seated: plates +25 a side x 14,+5 x 12, +10 x 10
45 degree: 4 plates a side x 30 x 30 (fast reps)
Standing: 1 set: 200lbs x 10, 175 x 5, 100 x 10, selfs x 10, donkeyself x 10 --> did 2 sets of this
(full extension on all reps)
Forearms barbell curl: 100 x 20, x 16, x 12
Reverse barbell curl: 60 x 10
Standing Curl: 60 x 8, x 8
Rope crunch: 155 x 6
Leg Raise: 55 x 8
A little barf action tonight. Something i ate did not agree with me, along with a strenous late workout, and some stress.
06-03-2006, 12:31 AM
06-04-2006, 04:40 PM
Needless to say the barfing and sickness did not help gains. However, i look cut like crazy.
Today is an offday
Today starts my 10mg PP a day until Day 35 then cycle is done and out. 10mgPP a day and starting Clomid/Nolva. The dosing is at 9am.
06-04-2006, 04:42 PM
The weight loss was mostly fat as i am looking crazy good. I didn't think i would ever be getting this cut at 248lbs. If i can go down to 240lbs woa!
Not cutting now Werewolf, just by accident to the 248lbs.
Gym closed early today, could not get to another. Off Day.
Neck: 18 1/8''
Forearm: 14 1/4''
Shoulder Span Around: 58''
Chest = 47'' (+3'')
06-04-2006, 05:26 PM
Trying to cut right now is not a good idea. Try to eat well, but not exessively. Remember you are still growing muscle at 10mg. Treat your body as best as possible. You are going cut some just from lowering estrogen and losing a little methyl bloat.
Are you prepared for the acne in about 10 days as testosterone hits about 150%?
06-05-2006, 10:15 PM
Cheat and Triceps
Flat Bench: 275 x 9, 295 x 4, 275 x 6
Incline DB Press: 105 x 5, x 4, 95 x 4
Dips (self): x 4
--> Chest is GONE
Lying Extensions: 150 x 6, x 6
Pulldown: 150 x 6
Close Grip: 135 x 12, 155 x 8, 175 x 6
06-06-2006, 11:49 PM
Back and Biceps
Seated Rows: 310 x 10, 315 x 7
Pulldown: 240 x 6, 220 x 6, self x 4, x 4
Bent Over Row: 255 x 6, 260 x 5
TBar: 5plates x 10, 6 plates x 4
Straight Bar Curl: 145 x 6, 150 x 4
Dumbell Curl: 65 x 6, 60 x 6
Incline Hammer Curl: 50 x 6
06-07-2006, 11:23 AM
23.5 lbs GREAT GREAT work I can't wait I got 18 more days till my bulking cycle. will be running s-drol the 1st 3 wks like you did.
06-07-2006, 11:46 AM
Squats: 425 x 8, 435 x 6, 455 x 5
Leg Press: 12 plates a side x 4
Straight Leg Deadlift: 225 x 6, x 6
I will post up some finalizations as time permits tonight. Needless to say the whole thing was and is
06-07-2006, 12:19 PM
fritzer, I know you're having a hell of a good time on this cycle. how about summing up your gains for us thus far? thanks
06-07-2006, 01:23 PM
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