Misfit28 is Changing the Game with New MAN Sports Pure PF3

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    This is a nice dosing regiment.....
    Thanks, I'm excited to see how sore I am tomorrow. Those hypers kill my glutes/hams after Deads.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mpaquett View Post
    To start at the end first, no it does not need to be taken with a carb source it would be just fine fasted, but hey throw in some sugar and see how you like it with some carbs. All four tubs are yours so you get to play around with the dosing as much as you want. That's the great thing about logging! IN!
    Thanks for the input I might try carbs with it on leg day. I'll try out Bench day on Thursday and see how that feels.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by kenpoengineer View Post
    In for the great strides you made. Wow! Losing 120 lbs! You are on the road to health and longevity!
    Thanks, glad to have you! Love your gym setup

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Update: 8/27/2013
    One note: I mixed the PF3 and BCAAs last night and put them in the fridge. I usually do this with BCAAs, as it helps them dissolve. This morning as I drinking my intra, I discovered big hunks of PF3. Didn't bother me too bad, but it was a bit difficult to swallow the big chunks Maybe I will mix it right before my workout next time. In fact, I think I am just going to dose before and after my workouts for the rest of the log. It seems to me that three scoops that close together may not be very advantageous, and may actually waste product.)
    yeah, the same thing happens with casein if it sits more than 10 minutes before consumption; it has to do with the molecular weight i think.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    yeah, the same thing happens with casein if it sits more than 10 minutes before consumption; it has to do with the molecular weight i think.
    I believe the reason is that the bio-actives in general are hydrophobic. They essentially do not dissolve in water.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I believe the reason is that the bio-actives in general are hydrophobic. They essentially do not dissolve in water.
    Hmm, interesting. Doesn't matter to me, as long as it does what it's supposed to

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Hmm, interesting. Doesn't matter to me, as long as it does what it's supposed to
    Yeah, that's why you found it in clumps the next day. The stuff settled and since it's hydrophobic, it didn't absorb or break down in water. Just shake it up real nice the next time to break the stuff up again.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Yeah, that's why you found it in clumps the next day. The stuff settled and since it's hydrophobic, it didn't absorb or break down in water. Just shake it up real nice the next time to break the stuff up again.
    Yep. I had to chew it mid-workout, LOL.

  9. yeah. after 30 minutes this one time i couldnt get casein to pour out of the glass; come to think of it, it did have some mixability issues as well when stirring, but after those 30 minutes it had transformed into this gelantinous mass; the water was able to do something to it over time that it couldnt do off the bat when i normally downed it

  10. Great thread!

  11. Update: 8/28/2013

    Here's my update for today. Today is my rest day, so I dosed 1 scoop of the Candy Grape PF3 in 10 ounces of water with 5g Creatine Mono.

    The smell and taste of the grape is pretty awesome, but it does NOT mix well at all. I now see what jbry was talking about. After a few minutes it broke up a bit, but it became a clump that settled on the bottom almost right after I poured it into the water. The fruit Punch seems to mix marginally better.

    I have heard that the Unflavored mixes really well. As Jbry also said, maybe it has something to do with the flavors/colors?

    Another note: I usually wake up with sore glutes, traps, lower back and hamstrings after Deadlifts and Hypers. This seems to be even more prevalent with the ARA that I have been taking.

    However, this morning I have little to no DOMS at ALL!. I'll have to see if it hits me tomorrow, but so far so good! This can't be "placebo", IMO. I could just be getting more used to the higher volume. I will certainly find out after Friday, which is Leg day!

    I will dose my second scoop right before/with dinner. I decided to save my Fermented Leucine for Post-workout only. It seems a waste to use it on rest days.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Wilsy7 View Post
    Great thread!
    Thanks!

  13. Man this is awesome I hope your recovery keeps up! This will be huge for PF3 to get that recovery so fast!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    Man this is awesome I hope your recovery keeps up! This will be huge for PF3 to get that recovery so fast!
    Absolutely! I'm going to see how I feel in the morning, but so far so good!

  15. These clumping effects remind me of Vitargo. I'm wondering if the PF3 can limit the DOMS from going hard or not
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    These clumping effects remind me of Vitargo. I'm wondering if the PF3 can limit the DOMS from going hard or not
    Hmm, I never tried that. Just looked it up.

    I'll tell you one thing, not having DOMS from that routine yesterday is kinda freaking me out

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Hmm, I never tried that. Just looked it up.

    I'll tell you one thing, not having DOMS from that routine yesterday is kinda freaking me out
    Me too. I would usually have a sore chest from the DB presses. Especially when I go real deep to get good stretch. Feels like I didn't workout at all.. Placebo usually doesn't carry over to next day lol... Can't wait to see how the rest of my log goes.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by cubsfan815 View Post
    Me too. I would usually have a sore chest from the DB presses. Especially when I go real deep to get good stretch. Feels like I didn't workout at all.. Placebo usually doesn't carry over to next day lol... Can't wait to see how the rest of my log goes.
    Same here! I'm curious to see if it is more delayed than normal. Like it will hit me tomorrow or something.

    I'm not so sure it's placebo. Remember, I am on Arachidonic Acid too, and that has made me feel like I just started working out for the first time!

    Like I said, the real test will be tomorrow (Chest) and Friday (Legs). I can't wait!!!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Same here! I'm curious to see if it is more delayed than normal. Like it will hit me tomorrow or something.I'm not so sure it's placebo. Remember, I am on Arachidonic Acid too, and that has made me feel like I just started working out for the first time!Like I said, the real test will be tomorrow (Chest) and Friday (Legs). I can't wait!!!
    wow. thats incredible

  20. Quote Originally Posted by thescience View Post
    wow. thats incredible
    Yes it is! Like I said, it is freaky. Like @cubsfan815 said, it's like I didn't even lift yesterday!

  21. Mixing my dose pre-dinner was perfect. I used the Candy Grape, and used the slowly adding while swirling method and it dissolved completely.

    Still some foam, but not bad!
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    Yes it is! Like I said, it is freaky. Like @cubsfan815 said, it's like I didn't even lift yesterday!
    This is great, I hope this keeps up and we all never get sore from PF3!
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  23. Update: 8/29/2013

    Decent chest workout this morning, I got less reps on my top set than I wanted, but I had a problem getting tight. I still got 2 reps on the 1+ week, but my Bench has always been weak.

    I decided to go ahead and keep the same dosing protocol today:

    1 scoop of MAN Pure PF3 with 1 scoop of Pre-WO and 4 caps of Arachidonic Acid ~30-45 minutes pre-workout

    1 scoop of MAN Pure PF3 intra with 1 scoop of BCAAs.

    1 scoop of MAN Pure PF3 with 5g Creatine mono and 2 scoops of MAN Fermented Leucine post-workout right before my meal.

    The swirling method works perfectly every time now, regardless if I am mixing it with something else, or just the PF3 solo. Awesome!

    By the way, the tiny bit of hamstring DOMS is gone, and I STILL do not feel any DOMS from Tuesday's workout. Recovery is amazing. I really got some wicked pumps in my chest and triceps today, so I'm expecting some DOMS tomorrow. We shall see if PF# can deliver a repeat performance.

    Thursdays will be my update day, btw. I generally get my BF% readings on Thursdays, so I feel like it is best to just do a full update then.

    No pictures today, as my phone seems to be full

    Weight this morning: 219.4#
    BF% reading: 18.7%

    three weeks ago I weighed the same, but the BF% reading was 21%. Of course the method is not the gold standard, but I still have a good trendline. On the 20th my BF% showed 19.8%. I'm excited to see the difference between now and the end of the log!

    Here's my nutrition summary for the week in calories:

    8/21/2013 3740
    8/22/2013 3922
    8/23/2013 3734
    8/24/2013 3981
    8/25/2013 3622
    8/26/2013 3589
    8/27/2013 3811

    That is roughly 3792 calories on average over 8 days, which is higher than I was aiming for. However, the scale is not moving up too quickly.

    Here's my workout for today:

    Barbell Bench Press:

    45 lb x 10 reps (+43 pts)
    75 lb x 5 reps (+45 pts)
    90 lb x 5 reps (+50 pts)
    110 lb x 3 reps (+45 pts)
    135 lb x 5 reps (+67 pts)
    150 lb x 3 reps (+60 pts)
    170 lb x 2 reps (+58 pts)

    5/3/1 Bodybuilder C1, W3, D3: Disappointed with this. Just didn't feel like I got tight enough. I know I got my 1+, but I really wanted 3 or 4. I think my grip width messed me up a bit.

    Dumbbell Bench Press:

    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)
    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)
    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)
    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)

    60s rest between sets. Really felt the burn and stretch at the bottom on these. Slow and controlled.

    Dips - Triceps Version:

    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)
    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)
    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)
    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)

    Still getting the hang of these before I drop the assistance level. I know it's weak, but I'm doing them slowly, getting a full ROM. Almost failed at the end. 60s rest between sets.

    Machine Chest Fly (Pec Deck):

    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)

    I'm using the machine rather than DBs, because I feel more control over the ROM. Really got my pecs burning. 60s rest between sets.

    Triceps Pushdown - Rope Attachment:

    20 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)
    20 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)
    20 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)
    15 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)

    60s rest between sets. Dropped 5 lbs. without failing because I wanted every rep in the full ROM. Triceps felt ready to explode on the last few reps.

    Lets hope my recovery does the same! Tomorrow is Leg day

  24. Awesome chest w/o! True test, if your tri's were going to explode then let's see how well PF3 works for recovery on those bad boys! Great log so far, your crushing it.
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  25. Let's do this. . .

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post
    Update: 8/29/2013

    Decent chest workout this morning, I got less reps on my top set than I wanted, but I had a problem getting tight. I still got 2 reps on the 1+ week, but my Bench has always been weak.

    I decided to go ahead and keep the same dosing protocol today:

    1 scoop of MAN Pure PF3 with 1 scoop of Pre-WO and 4 caps of Arachidonic Acid ~30-45 minutes pre-workout

    1 scoop of MAN Pure PF3 intra with 1 scoop of BCAAs.

    1 scoop of MAN Pure PF3 with 5g Creatine mono and 2 scoops of MAN Fermented Leucine post-workout right before my meal.

    The swirling method works perfectly every time now, regardless if I am mixing it with something else, or just the PF3 solo. Awesome!

    By the way, the tiny bit of hamstring DOMS is gone, and I STILL do not feel any DOMS from Tuesday's workout. Recovery is amazing. I really got some wicked pumps in my chest and triceps today, so I'm expecting some DOMS tomorrow. We shall see if PF# can deliver a repeat performance.

    Thursdays will be my update day, btw. I generally get my BF% readings on Thursdays, so I feel like it is best to just do a full update then.

    No pictures today, as my phone seems to be full

    Weight this morning: 219.4#
    BF% reading: 18.7%

    three weeks ago I weighed the same, but the BF% reading was 21%. Of course the method is not the gold standard, but I still have a good trendline. On the 20th my BF% showed 19.8%. I'm excited to see the difference between now and the end of the log!

    Here's my nutrition summary for the week in calories:

    8/21/2013 3740
    8/22/2013 3922
    8/23/2013 3734
    8/24/2013 3981
    8/25/2013 3622
    8/26/2013 3589
    8/27/2013 3811

    That is roughly 3792 calories on average over 8 days, which is higher than I was aiming for. However, the scale is not moving up too quickly.

    Here's my workout for today:

    Barbell Bench Press:

    45 lb x 10 reps (+43 pts)
    75 lb x 5 reps (+45 pts)
    90 lb x 5 reps (+50 pts)
    110 lb x 3 reps (+45 pts)
    135 lb x 5 reps (+67 pts)
    150 lb x 3 reps (+60 pts)
    170 lb x 2 reps (+58 pts)

    5/3/1 Bodybuilder C1, W3, D3: Disappointed with this. Just didn't feel like I got tight enough. I know I got my 1+, but I really wanted 3 or 4. I think my grip width messed me up a bit.

    Dumbbell Bench Press:

    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)
    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)
    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)
    35 lb x 10 reps (+51 pts)

    60s rest between sets. Really felt the burn and stretch at the bottom on these. Slow and controlled.

    Dips - Triceps Version:

    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)
    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)
    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)
    10 reps || assisted || 140 lb (+3 pts)

    Still getting the hang of these before I drop the assistance level. I know it's weak, but I'm doing them slowly, getting a full ROM. Almost failed at the end. 60s rest between sets.

    Machine Chest Fly (Pec Deck):

    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)
    40 lb x 10 reps (+10 pts)

    I'm using the machine rather than DBs, because I feel more control over the ROM. Really got my pecs burning. 60s rest between sets.

    Triceps Pushdown - Rope Attachment:

    20 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)
    20 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)
    20 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)
    15 lb x 15 reps (+9 pts)

    60s rest between sets. Dropped 5 lbs. without failing because I wanted every rep in the full ROM. Triceps felt ready to explode on the last few reps.

    Lets hope my recovery does the same! Tomorrow is Leg day
    I have trouble with my shoulder doing dips assisted or not , but I found an exercise that truly shredded my chest . if you have access to a close cable machine like a lifefitness dual pulley one set the weight for each handle at the desired weight and set them shoulder high. bend over and press the handlesdown. really isolates the pecs. try it and see what you think. I saw it on you tube from Mr. America Doug Brigsole. awesome job on the volume, I bet they are hurting.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by pete8407 View Post
    Awesome chest w/o! True test, if your tri's were going to explode then let's see how well PF3 works for recovery on those bad boys! Great log so far, your crushing it.
    Thanks! Yep, I figure between chest today and legs tomorrow, I'll see what happens. Next week is a deload week, so much lower volume and intensity. I'll be upping the weight and getting right back to it the following week

  28. Quote Originally Posted by ricroc View Post
    Let's do this. . .
    Glad to have you, subbing to yours in a minute!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by chefbo View Post
    I have trouble with my shoulder doing dips assisted or not , but I found an exercise that truly shredded my chest . if you have access to a close cable machine like a lifefitness dual pulley one set the weight for each handle at the desired weight and set them shoulder high. bend over and press the handlesdown. really isolates the pecs. try it and see what you think. I saw it on you tube from Mr. America Doug Brigsole. awesome job on the volume, I bet they are hurting.
    I'll have to look that up! Thanks for the tips, dips are a bit hard on my shoulders as well as the DB presses. My left one is worse than my right one.

    Yeah, that volume gets the pump going for sure. I was used to mostly strength rep ranges from regular 5/3/1, but trying to fill in some mass now

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    Thanks! Yep, I figure between chest today and legs tomorrow, I'll see what happens. Next week is a deload week, so much lower volume and intensity. I'll be upping the weight and getting right back to it the following week
    That's cool, I love changing up my workouts like that all the time. From heavy to light, sets and reps or just change up exercises. It keeps me from getting bored
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