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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    so you will be taking /at2/lean extreme/t-33/hdrol/fura/glycobol?
    He has some serious cash! Also recomp is in there too unless I misunderstood it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    He has some serious cash! Also recomp is in there too unless I misunderstood it.
    lets hope he has serious health insurance. that is not only a wasteful stack, it's also not very safe. i hope he has fish oil/hawthorn/milk thistle also. hdrol/fura/lean extreme is going to kill those joints. and bp might also be a problem.
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    I would stick to recomp, slin sane, Alpha T2, TT-33, and then maybe lean extreme. I think Maxximal told me he had Alpha T2 and TT-33 stacked but that could of been a dream
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    Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    I would stick to recomp, slin sane, Alpha T2, TT-33, and then maybe lean extreme. I think Maxximal told me he had Alpha T2 and TT-33 stacked but that could of been a dream
    the thing i am concerned about is the hdrol/fura combined with all the other stuff-damn.
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    so if I'm understanding everyone, I should not use the PHs and stick solely with the cutting stack??

    I'm trying to keep the LBM that I have.

    outstanding, please weigh in.

    I will gladly start a new thread and log in my progress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulltonic View Post
    so if I'm understanding everyone, I should not use the PHs and stick solely with the cutting stack??

    I'm trying to keep the LBM that I have.

    outstanding, please weigh in.

    I will gladly start a new thread and log in my progress
    I just know about PP PH products but you got pretty solid non PH stack(like really good). If you are going to go with PH I don't know if you would need all the rest of them. Have you started using the PH products?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulltonic View Post
    so if I'm understanding everyone, I should not use the PHs and stick solely with the cutting stack??

    I'm trying to keep the LBM that I have.

    outstanding, please weigh in.

    I will gladly start a new thread and log in my progress
    leave the ph's for another time. maybe add in an ai instead-pes's new erase looks interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulltonic View Post
    I am in!!

    I started taking Alpha T2, lean xtreme, and T-33 3 days ago and have lost 4 pounds already!! Just received my recomp and should be getting my slim sane by weeks end. I've substituted H-Drol for M-Drol and added furaza-a.

    And I must admit that in my excited state while ordering recomp I purchased Glycobol too. Not sure if they be taken at the same time (I would guess not).

    anyway, don't wanna crash in on Outstanding's log

    But any more info and suggestion you can provide me is greatly appreciated.
    Welcome to the thread! I still have a complete solid month left of this Recomp (4 weeks and 3 days to be exact), so you're getting here in time to still get some great material and feedback; plus I'm planning on using this same thread/journal to log my PCT as well.

    Wow, I just looked at your current and planned stack, and it all looks eerily familiar, haha, I'm just kidding - SUPER SOLID PROTOCOL! I can assure you beyond the shadow of a doubt you'll love this regimen, it takes on your physique re-composition from all angles of attack - its very comprehensive/systemic.

    No worries about crashing my log, that's what it is here for. I look forward to new posts and replies each day as I sign on. I have to commend you on your Glycobol purchase as well, its not cheap by any measure, so it shows a lot of motivation and determination on your part to invest wisely into this excellent product. Depending on the situation, they 'could' be taking in unison, since there is some compound overlap, but the inclusion of na-r-ala ensures your muscle tissue is sensitized to accept glycogen, and the other constituents create a barricade against the onset of lipogenesis.

    Drop in from time to time and let us know how you're cycle is going - there is virtually zero room for error considering the product line-up you've chosen, just add work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lets hope he has serious health insurance. that is not only a wasteful stack, it's also not very safe. i hope he has fish oil/hawthorn/milk thistle also. hdrol/fura/lean extreme is going to kill those joints. and bp might also be a problem.
    I wanted to touch on this... because I think although health precautions and supportive measures are more wide-spread now than they have ever been thanks to a growing awareness among bodybuilders, it still isn't enough. I didn't mention or discuss my own preventative measures during this cycle, but they are plenty and just as focused upon as the cycle itself. Just as a small sampling of my ongoing supplement use to stabilize my health, along with the high amounts of r & na-r-ala, I have been taking multiple doses of liver detoxifying and protecting capsules every day, on top of a well structured implementation of antioxidants, fiber, digestive enzymes, mineral blends, and a vigilant use of whole-food multi-vitamins and daily adaptogen use.

    I have also just placed an order, just today, which includes a slew of other health maintaining supplements that will enhance my joint and connective tissue lubrication and elasticity, and promote a more restful sleep and balanced state of mind.

    Thanks for bringing up this excellent point - because no one, with enough serious and honest thought, would ever want to sacrifice their well being, in order to realize ten pounds of new lean body mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I wanted to touch on this... because I think although health precautions and supportive measures are more wide-spread now than they have ever been thanks to a growing awareness among bodybuilders, it still isn't enough. I didn't mention or discuss my own preventative measures during this cycle, but they are plenty and just as focused upon as the cycle itself. Just as a small sampling of my ongoing supplement use to stabilize my health, along with the high amounts of r & na-r-ala, I have been taking multiple doses of liver detoxifying and protecting capsules every day, on top of a well structured implementation of antioxidants, fiber, digestive enzymes, mineral blends, and a vigilant use of whole-food multi-vitamins and daily adaptogen use.

    I have also just placed an order, just today, which includes a slew of other health maintaining supplements that will enhance my joint and connective tissue lubrication and elasticity, and promote a more restful sleep and balanced state of mind.
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    Thanks for bringing up this excellent point - because no one, with enough serious and honest thought, would ever want to sacrifice their well being, in order to realize ten pounds of new lean body mass.
    and you are not even using ph's-this man wants to run all those supps with hdrol and fura.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulltonic View Post
    so if I'm understanding everyone, I should not use the PHs and stick solely with the cutting stack??

    I'm trying to keep the LBM that I have.

    outstanding, please weigh in.

    I will gladly start a new thread and log in my progress
    Surely... sorry for the delay - been out of the office. I wanted to thank the other fellas in this thread for offering up such prudent sound advice in my absence. To insert my own opinion of your cycle though, I would of course echo what they have said, and suggest that if you are running a hepatotoxic oral steroid in the form of Superdrol (clones) or even the slightly less harsh Halodrol (clones) you wouldn't need to 'supplement' any of those orals with another pro-anabolic as they will fill that need with precision. Try to avoid redundancy in your cycle construct, and in stead focus on protein portions, muscle contraction, and getting ample rest and recovery - perhaps using the residual money from skipping on another PH purchase to buy liver protectants etc. Have fun and all the best!
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    ALRIGHT! Now that my journal is all caught up, and my things are in order... I can write my update.

    The first thing I wanted to address was a new bit of synergy I revealed during my research into the Genomyx product line (have to stay sharp now that I'm representing the brand!). In short, the effects of Slin Sane can be bolstered and augmented greatly if the athlete is also using Protocol - via two independent ingredients each supplement claims as part of their blend. Slin Sane was injected with L-Norvaline, probably the most well known arginase inhibitor, which is supported by the glucose modulation/glycogen saturation induced by the GDA duo. Protocol on the other hand uses a lesser known novel compound that has gained quite a following through real world results and clinical data as well, Agmatine Sulfate. AS is described within the Protocol product write-up as "enhance(ing) muscle pumps and heightened nutrient delivery," which is paralleled to the method of action seen in Slin Sane's efficacy - yet achieved via a completely different nutraceutical route. I have always taken mental note of the unmatched synergy these products exhibited, but had never made that crucial connection between constituents of why they seems to 'play so nice' together!

    More to come, as this week marks the final month countdown, as I anxiously await that fateful morning when I bounce out of bed before the buzz of the alarm, and make my way to the airport to embark on Las Vegas 2010, the Mr. Olympia experience!
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    Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    I have started bulking today but won't start taking supplements until everything is here. I would say if your taking more than 100g of carbs take recomp(3 pills). So for breakfast, post-wokrout, and post-post-workout. For the other 3 meals I would take 1 pill of Glycobol.

    Don't lesson to me unless outstanding okays this idea.
    up to 160g carbs only 2 caps needed, over 160g then 3
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    up to 160g carbs only 2 caps needed, over 160g then 3
    I sure hope no one is this thread has ever taken (8) RCDs + (6) Slin Sanes and 7g of HCA powder along with (2) Rogue caps and 1g of r-ALA before having a weekly cheat meal of an entire stuffed crust pizza and Oreo Ice Cream Blizzard!
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    that's just overboard

    pottasium tabs, vinegar and some recomp is all u need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    that's just overboard

    pottasium tabs, vinegar and some recomp is all u need.
    HEY! I said it was hypothetical! Now I have to find a corner to curl up in!

    PS: I just purchased some Vinegar tabs tonight, I've been drinking Bragg's version for a while, and it just seems to be an all-around awesome health 'elixir,' actually coming close to what many of the outrageous 'herbal remedy' books claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    HEY! I said it was hypothetical! Now I have to find a corner to curl up in!

    PS: I just purchased some Vinegar tabs tonight, I've been drinking Bragg's version for a while, and it just seems to be an all-around awesome health 'elixir,' actually coming close to what many of the outrageous 'herbal remedy' books claim.
    man, i just take a tbspn of cider vinegar-no lie, that stuff takes my breath away. strong stuff, my mom swears by it-shes been taking it for years and is in great health at 82.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    man, i just take a tbspn of cider vinegar-no lie, that stuff takes my breath away. strong stuff, my mom swears by it-shes been taking it for years and is in great health at 82.
    I've been taking Bragg's Organic ACV before bed @ 2tbsp before bed for months now, and I love the feeling it gives me (clear mind, steady strong digestion, boost in energy) but have only been researching its supposed glucose modulating blood sugar properties recently. Cinnamon extract with vinegar would be quite the 'homeopathic' one-two punch to combat elevated blood glucose. Do you really believe the GDA benefits of ACV are evident/powerful enough to use it in conjunction with or substitution of something like r-ALA etc? Thanks a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I've been taking Bragg's Organic ACV before bed @ 2tbsp before bed for months now, and I love the feeling it gives me (clear mind, steady strong digestion, boost in energy) but have only been researching its supposed glucose modulating blood sugar properties recently. Cinnamon extract with vinegar would be quite the 'homeopathic' one-two punch to combat elevated blood glucose. Do you really believe the GDA benefits of ACV are evident/powerful enough to use it in conjunction with or substitution of something like r-ALA etc? Thanks a lot
    without testing blood sugar i can only guess-but i seem to feel better since starting the vinegar. vinegar has been used in home remedies forever, so there must be something to it. my mom swears that vinegar is one of the reasons she is so heathly-i got to go with mom!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    up to 160g carbs only 2 caps needed, over 160g then 3
    Yeah your right sorry about that. I though RCD was 3 caps per serving but it is 2. With the way I'm eating I might have to take it with every meal and sometimes 3 caps rather than 2. But I still haven't taken slin sane or RCD cause all my supplements aren't here yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    that's just overboard

    pottasium tabs, vinegar and some recomp is all u need.
    what does vinegar and potassium tabs do?
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    Isnt ACV like a cure-all?
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    nice looking log right here!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    Isnt ACV like a cure-all?
    yup-been around forever. mom said her grandma used to take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    I was going to post pictures if the journal reached 1,000 views in July, but it fell short. I have the initial Recomp pictures taken from day one and saved on my hard drive. I am a little hesitant to post pictures though, but I will commit to posting images if the journal reaches 5,000 views by the end of September!
    Over 1/4 of the way there
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Over 1/4 of the way there
    Oh, we will get that 5k.
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    Oh, we will get that 5k.
    Bwa-ha-ha! You guys are hilarious - I better start getting my photo shop skills in line, I just don't wanna make it that obvious I'm posting pictures of Jay Cutler from the 2001 Olympia on here

    I have another update coming soon, outlining diet and training changes - be back soon!
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    nice looking log right here!!
    Thanks a lot, sorry I didn't see your post sooner - been carousing the forum elsewhere for most of the day. Thanks for subscribing... I am getting ready to move things into the mindset of PCT very soon. I'll be totally opening myself up to the subscribers suggestions, to compliment my Clomid and HCG injections.
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    Oh, we will get that 5k.
    That ^
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    Hey men, its Tuesday... and you know what that means - absolutely nothing

    Just wanted to stop by real quick to do a guerrilla type update; in and out!

    - Need 2 Slin arrived today... I'm still surprised and thankful one of their reps offered to send me a free bottle, unsolicited. The only draw back is... today, and perhaps tomorrow (since I'll be traveling) I won't "need to slin." As soon as I am able to bust the bottle open and toss a few back, I'll assuredly keep it real and author some feedback right here!

    - I'll be training very late tonight... starting past midnight and going until nearly 2am... legs no less! I haven't done a late night training session in nearly three years, so we'll see how it goes.

    - I am going to jot down my initial ideas for PCT, and since I have a great subscribed readership here, I am asking for your additions, suggestions for dosages and duration, and overall guidance to help me refine my protocol to get the boys back in gear and hold onto my newly procured precious lean mass at all costs!
    > (EST) Propadrol EP, (EST) Test Drive, (Sci Fit) Methoxy, (Sci Fit) Ecdy, HCG injections, Clomid solution, and finally heavy multi-daily doses of BCAAs

    - My nutrition has been refined and committed to, for these final four weeks (from today, exactly) until my Vegas Vacation kicks off.


    PS: I am curious about any suggestions for tendon and connective tissue regeneration/healing? I have had a less-than-healthy bicep tendon, and I just made an order from Swanson for the usual trio Glucosamine, MSM, Chrondroitan - I was wondering if anything else would increase blood flow and subsequently healing tendon specific?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Hey men, its Tuesday... and you know what that means - absolutely nothing

    Just wanted to stop by real quick to do a guerrilla type update; in and out!

    - Need 2 Slin arrived today... I'm still surprised and thankful one of their reps offered to send me a free bottle, unsolicited. The only draw back is... today, and perhaps tomorrow (since I'll be traveling) I won't "need to slin." As soon as I am able to bust the bottle open and toss a few back, I'll assuredly keep it real and author some feedback right here!

    - I'll be training very late tonight... starting past midnight and going until nearly 2am... legs no less! I haven't done a late night training session in nearly three years, so we'll see how it goes.

    - I am going to jot down my initial ideas for PCT, and since I have a great subscribed readership here, I am asking for your additions, suggestions for dosages and duration, and overall guidance to help me refine my protocol to get the boys back in gear and hold onto my newly procured precious lean mass at all costs!
    > (EST) Propadrol EP, (EST) Test Drive, (Sci Fit) Methoxy, (Sci Fit) Ecdy, HCG injections, Clomid solution, and finally heavy multi-daily doses of BCAAs

    - My nutrition has been refined and committed to, for these final four weeks (from today, exactly) until my Vegas Vacation kicks off.


    PS: I am curious about any suggestions for tendon and connective tissue regeneration/healing? I have had a less-than-healthy bicep tendon, and I just made an order from Swanson for the usual trio Glucosamine, MSM, Chrondroitan - I was wondering if anything else would increase blood flow and subsequently healing tendon specific?
    And I just did a Gorilla reading hey man if you have joint problems try animal flex. $20 for 6 weeks and the are AMAZING. Like I take it every time I get injured and I'm up and ready to go in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    And I just did a Gorilla reading hey man if you have joint problems try animal flex. $20 for 6 weeks and the are AMAZING. Like I take it every time I get injured and I'm up and ready to go in no time.
    Nice! I forgot all about Animal Flex... I have never tried an Animal product I didn't like. Their company is an enigma to me; I can't explain it - but it's an amazing company with a genius marketing strategy and some phenomenal athletes, but I always tend to subconsciously group it in with "B" companies, but it deserves MUCH more credit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Hey men, its Tuesday... and you know what that means - absolutely nothing

    Just wanted to stop by real quick to do a guerrilla type update; in and out!

    - Need 2 Slin arrived today... I'm still surprised and thankful one of their reps offered to send me a free bottle, unsolicited. The only draw back is... today, and perhaps tomorrow (since I'll be traveling) I won't "need to slin." As soon as I am able to bust the bottle open and toss a few back, I'll assuredly keep it real and author some feedback right here!

    - I'll be training very late tonight... starting past midnight and going until nearly 2am... legs no less! I haven't done a late night training session in nearly three years, so we'll see how it goes.

    - I am going to jot down my initial ideas for PCT, and since I have a great subscribed readership here, I am asking for your additions, suggestions for dosages and duration, and overall guidance to help me refine my protocol to get the boys back in gear and hold onto my newly procured precious lean mass at all costs!
    > (EST) Propadrol EP, (EST) Test Drive, (Sci Fit) Methoxy, (Sci Fit) Ecdy, HCG injections, Clomid solution, and finally heavy multi-daily doses of BCAAs

    - My nutrition has been refined and committed to, for these final four weeks (from today, exactly) until my Vegas Vacation kicks off.


    PS: I am curious about any suggestions for tendon and connective tissue regeneration/healing? I have had a less-than-healthy bicep tendon, and I just made an order from Swanson for the usual trio Glucosamine, MSM, Chrondroitan - I was wondering if anything else would increase blood flow and subsequently healing tendon specific?
    wobenzyme n-check it out!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    wobenzyme n-check it out!!!
    NO! I refuse to accept any posts under thirty words! I've seen that digestive enzyme before, but I like the one I am taking. I don't know if I can ever forgive you with that post... I mean, look at all the intellectual fodder and catnip I wrote above! C' MON!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    NO! I refuse to accept any posts under thirty words! I've seen that digestive enzyme before, but I like the one I am taking. I don't know if I can ever forgive you with that post... I mean, look at all the intellectual fodder and catnip I wrote above! C' MON!
    lol-catnip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lol-catnip.
    THAT'S IT! I'm gonna go Joe Pesci on your from Goodfellas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    THAT'S IT! I'm gonna go Joe Pesci on your from Goodfellas!
    you talkin to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you talkin to me
    HOW AM I FUNNY!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    HOW AM I FUNNY!?
    I LOVE IT, LOL.
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