Outstanding's Summer/Fall ALPHA(T2)MALE (sl)INSANE RECOMP(adrol)!

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  1. u can do it, I myself maintain the same diet year round allowing for a cheat meal every 8-10 weeks...some may even argue they aren't cheats. my wife says I eat boring..


  2. Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    u can do it, I myself maintain the same diet year round allowing for a cheat meal every 8-10 weeks...some may even argue they aren't cheats. my wife says I eat boring..
    Yeah, I have always had one cheat meal per month while off-cycle, and one cheat meal per week on-cycle. I compete annually, almost like clock work, so for more than a quarter year I am eating perfect by all measures, dedicating every waking moment toward endeavoring to move up in placings.

    I would never go months on end without having a cheat meal though, food is one of VERY FEW facets of life that is on par with my love and passion for bodybuilding. In fact, the argument could easily be made that I am so involved in training, to accomplish the dual goals of building muscle while subsequently burning enough calories in order to enjoy food while keeping lipogenesis at bay.

    When I flip the switch though, there is an instant and irreversible shift from food obsession, to tunnel vision focus on molesting the weights and spooning with oatmeal - haha! If food was a crime, Chris H. would have a 2-hour special on me: How to catch a predator (meat, not pedophilia)!
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  3. haha, molesting weights

    I've been eating this way since I was 11...it's engraved in me! I measure everything out, plan everything. I've got all kinds of recipes for "cheat" meals that I've converted over the years to "healthy" meals...lots of trial and error.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    haha, molesting weights

    I've been eating this way since I was 11...it's engraved in me! I measure everything out, plan everything. I've got all kinds of recipes for "cheat" meals that I've converted over the years to "healthy" meals...lots of trial and error.
    I would love to see/read some of your recipes; I'm always trying to make that conversion from cheat food, into clean calorie taste bud gratifying food!

    I have come up with McMuffins, Blueberry Muffins, Pancakes, Waffles, Pizza and Burritos so far

  5. I'll post some up when I'm at a comp

  6. Gentlemen... and Gentlemen...

    Today marks the maiden voyage of Week 3; so I thought it fitting to circle back around to some points of interest on the GPS map of progress and supplementation as my Summer Recomp rolls along...

    After punching out yesterday, I made the quick trek to the gym, and immediately went to work - the task at hand was chest, with a "B" (secondary) workout for triceps, all wrapped up with eight sets of abs to wrap up the evening.

    (Read in a thick Austrian accent) The workout was fantastic , and just as I have come to expect, blood was invading every fiber of my chest BEFORE I got to work on the 'real' sets. Of course upon waking in the morning, I made sure to toss Slin Sane into my lunch box, and throw back some Alpha T2 to kick-start my Sunday morning right. One of the most exciting aspects of the cycle thus far, was realizing I no longer get a disconnected feeling of nausea and severe appetite suppression from Alpha T2, which means I am now in full swing to experience ONLY the benefits from the triple threat of ingredients.

    Also a something I can't fail to mention, was the highlight of the day/workout - my virgin encounter with Protocol... what a blend! The first thing that struck me was how fine the powder was, the care and precision taken to ensure the entire amalgam was as water soluble/mixable as possible immediately set the stage for knowing this was a quality product. Now, in light of the past week's ever increasing performance and aggression while in the gym, I can't make note of a noticeable improvement in stamina or capability - but I just by looking at the panel and knowing Genomyx would never sacrifice quality, there is absolutely no way Protocol could fail in its intended action when paired with intense training. The taste was also very mild, something similar to a diluted crystal light - not overpowering or bitter in any way; and Lime flavor is usually a no-go zone for me, but I was not left disappointed (or gagging).

    Something else I took note of yesterday while grocery shopping after the workout, was once again how much the mind controls us. Even though I was barely twenty-four hours into my self imposed taste bud embargo rolling into my 8+ week nutritional regimen leading up to the Westward voyage to Las Vegas, I found myself already peeking over at the bakery items sitting out, beckoning to me. As time steadily marches forward, I will begin to shift from craving desserts and treats, to simply wanting an extra red potato, or another 1/2 cup of oatmeal. Although I'm not executing a total competition diet, I am holding strong to my commitment to forgo any/all calorie laden foods until that fateful final week of September rolls around and I make the frantic scurry from security to terminal and eventually bask in the approaching skyline of the Strip jetting out from the eternal surrounding sand and desert.

    Speaking of the Mr. Olympia... I wanted to make a prediction, or a hopeful vote of confidence. I believe this fall will mark the fourth Sandow Jay Cutler will be able to display on his awaiting custom made podium. At this point in time, and producing my prediction based on Jay's illustrious career topped off by last year's untouchable showing, I do not see anyone as a viable threat or formidable opponent. Kai has a tendency to hold water and cannot match Jay's overall stage presentation pound-for-pound, Phil is a very good bodybuilder who has limitless potential but not on par with the current king, and Branch has a very determined mindset to recapture or best last year's eye popping musculature - but doesn't have the upper body or back to stand side-by-side with Jay.

    Lastly, I just wanted to make mention of the extremely stark shift in perspective I've had since this Recomp began. At one, albeit short-lived, point I was dreading going to the gym, and could barely achieve a fully engorged pump and contraction - unable to even complete my entire post workout meal(s) due to an upset stomach and absolute loss of appetite. Now... without exaggeration, I am sincerely disappointed that I will be unable to make it to the gym this evening due to prior commitments. I am actually upset that today, is an off day; a wonderful and simply awesome feeling that I have not felt in quite a while. I seem to be free of any side effects or lethargy from Superdrol and Alpha T2, running on all cylinders!

    This week will hopefully mark another proud benchmark of successive heavy lifts and improved stamina/mental motivation - all contributing to that elusive pot of physique gold waiting at the end of the proceeding two-month rainbow!

  7. Glad to see Protocol was improved..the last tub I got (6 months ago) the powder was clumped and hard to mix. I'll be picking up more..ingredient profile is excellent.

    Outstanding, you should look into the new suppressor tablets we picked up from EST. They work wonders at controlling those sweet tooth cravings.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Glad to see Protocol was improved..the last tub I got (6 months ago) the powder was clumped and hard to mix. I'll be picking up more..ingredient profile is excellent.

    Outstanding, you should look into the new suppressor tablets we picked up from EST. They work wonders at controlling those sweet tooth cravings.
    This must be a brand new batch, the entire container was filled with powder so fine it was like snow - dissolved completely in water after vigorously shaking during my first few working sets.

    Thanks for the suggestion on the Suppressor; I have used it before actually. I am in a unique situation though, because due to the GDAs I am on, as well as the increase in training volume and cardio after ever workout, I need to refuel with as much food as possible throughout the day - just needs to be nutritious food. If I cut my appetite once more, I'm afraid I'll slide back into the horrid caloric deficit I experience during the first few days of Alpha T2 - effectuating a muscle metabolizing nightmare.

  9. I'm in the same boat as you...I absolutely hate appetite suppression. Suppressor has kept all unhealthy cravings at a minimum.

    I'm contemplating an October show, schedule permitting.

    Keep killing it bro...I'm about to go and destroy chest.
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  10. Subbing late, but looking forward to your future results. You have a hell of a stack going and should see greatness by the end of it!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Silver3CSRT8 View Post
    Subbing late, but looking forward to your future results. You have a hell of a stack going and should see greatness by the end of it!
    Thanks a lot for subscribing! It's only been a couple weeks, so you're still in the sweet spot The amalgam of compounds won't even reach peak activity for another few days anyway - so welcome!
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    This week wrapped up quite nicely - although I had to avoid the pitfall of cheat-food awesomeness yesterday. I was having visions of stuffed crust DiGiornos dancing in my head, gooey four cheese enveloping the polka-dotted sausage and peperoni laden crust... beckoning with feverish intensity to my taste buds, exciting my salivary glands. Were I a weaker man, I would still have onion on my breath, and a new deposit of unsightly pudginess around my midsection. In an attempt to quell my insatiable desire for cheese stuffed ecstasy, I hurried up the stairs to the kitchen, and whipped up a meat-head approved grilled cheese; 100% grain bread, with reduced fat splendor in the form of cheese between the golden brown (by fat free canola cooking spray) slices of Mmmmmmmm.

    Training this week was very productive - one workout of note was Tuesday morning's Arm Assault, which I contemplated on after the final rep was completed... finally arriving at the conclusion it was one of the most skin torturing pumps I have ever felt (in all the years of my training). My arms were so pumped, there was an actual painful sensation stemming from the skin and rooted nearly to the bone. I have usually only encountered these types of 'swells' after a post-contest food binge, depriving myself of any semblance of sugar in a controlled starvation for months on end to reach single digit body-fat - and then partaking in an endless plate shuffling calorie heaven soon after the trophies are awarded; sending me into an insulin induced near coma, but resulting in life changing pumps the following few days. It is truly a sensation that can't be justly elucidated by means of a keyboard and the limitation of the English language.

    A couple days during the mid-week stretch included 2-a-day insanity. My energy levels stayed constant, thanks to Alpha T2, and the necessitated hyper-caloric intake to sustain muscle strength and glycogen was assisted by Recompadrol and Slin Sane. I am confounded and confused how Slin Sane, with its seemingly simple three ingredient blend, continues to elicit such solid and super-charged muscle volume and fullness. As I packed my lunch this morning, I made sure to toss the bottle of Slin Sane on top of all the chicken-filled Tupperware accompanied by Uncle Ben's 90-second rice sachets. The trick to deriving maximum benefit from Slin Sane, in my experience thus far, is to remain well hydrated, and to truly follow the label directions of dosing 15 minutes PRIOR to your first bite of the pre-workout meal. Protocol is also serving up an undeniable knockout punch where recovery and stamina is concerned... going a long way toward maxing out the 1-10 product rating in my mind, especially due to its taste and solubility (a product can be a supreme muscle building machine, but if I have to squint my eyes and choke down the powder with a look of sickness smeared across my face, the likelihood of repeat purchase or consistent usage is very slim).

    I have recently formed some very pressing questions that I am intent on settling. The primary uncertainty I have, concerns GDAs and timing. I have read elsewhere and developed my own theory that GDAs immediately following a workout with the post-workout shake/or whole-food, is redundant and moot, because the body has already been stimulated to set the stage for optimal nutrient uptake and partitioning. I usually dose GDAs such as Recompadrol, Glycobol, or pure r-ALA with my post-post workout meal, in order to encourage my body's 1 1/2 hour carb shuttling/utilizing state to max out or prolong, so I can soak up every last calorie as muscle rebuilding fuel before that workout-induced anabolic window closes for the day (I only use Slin Sane prior to breakfast, and my pre-workout meal). I would be very appreciative to hear all of your thoughts regarding GDA usage for optimal results, anabolism, and adipogenesis aversion.

    -Outstanding

  13. I've been looking for something like this.

    I'm sooooooooo SUBD!

  14. Your PMs are all coming together for me now
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Your PMs are all coming together for me now
    Yeah - you BETTER subscribe

  16. Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    I've been looking for something like this.

    I'm sooooooooo SUBD!
    WELCOME! Thanks for stopping by... I'm just about to make another update

  17. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Your PMs are all coming together for me now
    You guys should let me log Glycobol for you guys. I'm ganna bulk soon and as a college student going to pre-med school in a year or two I'm broke as fukk. So you should help me out a little

    P.S. somebody from AI said on one of the threads that some people don't really see any effects until 6 caps but the recommendation on the bottle says 4 tops. Is that true?

  18. I would be very surprised. It's actually not uncommon for guys to lower the dose to under four caps per day. All of our products are formulated to be ran at optimal doses for 30 days.

    Please feel free to PM me if you have any other questions. I don't want to hijack Outstanding's thread
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  19. "Basal Nutraceutical Preparations
    - Genomyx Slin Sane
    - PES Alpha T2
    - Lean Body Formulations Recompadrol"


    Slin Sane is $20 I think and Recompadrol is $30. So which one do you think is better?

  20. The wheels keep on turning... and so far so GREAT! I feel like I'm humming down an interstate superhighway in a new Bentley GT, cruise control on and freshly paved black top just below the revolving rubber.

    I jotted down a few POI (points of interest) that have been swimming around in the good old gray matter this previous week - and hope its alright if I start there; a bullet-list weekly synopsis of sorts.

    -Alpha T2 has been paying back dividends in a big way, a very smooth and now enjoyable voyage toward progressive fat loss. I can tell the thermogenic properties are in full fledged effect. I am crossing my fingers my other bottle of AT2 arrives in the mail before my current supply is drained, so I can continue along the cycle flawlessly, and report back with my ongoing thoughts. I am curious though, about the optimal side-by-side dosing of this T2 supplement would be with T3; should they be dosed concomitantly, or should AT2 be used solely during the day, and Cytomel saved for the evening in order to burn through adipose tissue as I sleep?

    -I am intent on the cessation of my insulin (Humulin-R) usage, and would like to close this chapter on my first experience with exogenous insulin. I have read some slightly conflicting reports throughout the under ground annals of forums and research articles though, and am torn on the best method of disuse, whether to taper or stop cold turkey. I am stopping the use of insulin because of several factors, including but not limited to a slowing in the lipolytic reaction in response to dieting, a slight yet noticeable stomach bloat, and the slim yet plausible nominal risk of severely or permanently attenuating my body's natural ability to excrete insulin naturally (also, I have not realized NEAR the purported anabolic effect from calculated insulin usage that is propagated online). Another pressing question is... what supplements can I administer to up-regulate and repair my body's endogenous insulin mechanisms and sensitivity back to basal or augmented levels (akin to repairing b2 receptors post Clenbuterol use, or TSH levels post T3 usage).

    -SDN's ROGUE just arrived in the mail yesterday! This supplement is the last addition to my Summer/Fall Recomp leading up to the Mr. Olympia contest/vacation. After dosing 2 caps twice daily on Saturday, and 2 caps this morning prior to breakfast with Slin Sane and Recompadrol - I am EXTREMELY most full and pumped than I can recall ever being simply sitting in front of a computer screen. My arms and chest are pushing out against my shirt, and my entire sense of well being is improved - not to mention a DRAMATIC increase in appetite. I am watching the clock, trying to get that second hand to sweep faster in order to being my next meal, mere moments after the final bite of my proceeding meal. I have never felt effects this fast, evident, and powerful from ANY OTC supplement I have ever tried during the tenure of my bodybuilding career and endeavoring (aside from Generation-1 PHs years ago, and perhaps high Slin Sane intake prior to a cheat meal).

    -I will be purchasing HCG and Clomid late next week, in an anticipatory measure to have all PCT items on hand and readily available once the anabolic constituents of my cycle are disused. Still not committed in stone to how and when I will be starting the Clomid or HCG injections.

    -This past week's training has been another MASSIVE success... I have been able to time-and-time again tap into energy stores that seem nearly limitless, even when training twice daily (which happened twice this week). The pumps and stamina are not only still substantial, but seem to be improving with each successive bout in the gym. I am feeling unstoppable, and with ongoing slight tweaks to my nutrition, I am seeing the midsection tighten and my overall physique seem to slowly yet constantly enlarge, as an illusion of perspective caused by composition (fat mass to lean mass) changes.

    -I have been eating low-far Brown Sugar Cinnamon Pop Tarts as my post workout meal once again (I did this several years ago). I believe the reduced fat version alleviates any slowing of the glycemic reaction, and also reduced potential lipogenesis as a result of insulin injection.

    -Lastly... as I briefly mentioned in another thread, I have been so blown away by Slin Sane, I have started to use it in non traditional ways; meaning before breakfast and prior to bed. Pre-breakfast elicits an incomparable muscle fullness in response to the oatmeal or shredded 100% whole wheat cereal + soy milk eaten 15 minutes later. Dosing Slin Sane prior to falling asleep has also shown amazing potential, as it empties my body of any excess glycogen and saturates my recovering lean tissues with fuel and fullness, awaking to a round and hard physique.

    The week was quite a success... and with the dosing increase of HCA powder from Lean Body Formulations, as well as a consistent reliance on their Recompadrol product, all meshed with the above mentioned tweaks - I am growing more excited about the proceeding 7 weeks than I can remember being in quite a long time!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    "Basal Nutraceutical Preparations
    - Genomyx Slin Sane
    - PES Alpha T2
    - Lean Body Formulations Recompadrol"


    Slin Sane is $20 I think and Recompadrol is $30. So which one do you think is better?
    Excellent question, and I'm happy to answer by saying: Neither.

    I say that because in my opinion their MOA and intended effect in vivo vary drastically. Slin Sane is meant to serve as a pre-workout supercharger of sorts, forcing your body to utilize the pre-workout meal carbohydrates, using them as fuel to impart an amazing pump (which is also supported and achieved via a nice dose of Norvaline). I tend to think of Slin Sane only as a carbohydrate additive in order to attenuate blood sugar rises which can result in fat gain.

    Recompadrol on the other hand is more versatile (but not more proliferative of efficacious, simply different), and can be used prior to a more complete spectrum of meals, mitigating adipogenesis with HCA and other compounds that can turn nearly any whole food meal into a muscle feeding phenomenon. I use Recompadrol exclusively and primarily for my post-post-workout meal, in order to prolong the opening of the training-induced anabolic window and heightened nutrient utilization by the body to enhance the rapidity of recovery.

  22. Subbed. I`m about to start a recomp of sorts in 2 weeks. Try T3 stacked with Halovar, Androhard, maybe Dermacrine(everything listed in my thread in Anabolics). Your log is very interesting. I`m not doing contest so I can cheat a little more. LOL Going out for steak later. Steak is cool but the garlic mashed and everything else will kill me. LOL.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Excellent question, and I'm happy to answer by saying: Neither.

    I say that because in my opinion their MOA and intended effect in vivo vary drastically. Slin Sane is meant to serve as a pre-workout supercharger of sorts, forcing your body to utilize the pre-workout meal carbohydrates, using them as fuel to impart an amazing pump (which is also supported and achieved via a nice dose of Norvaline). I tend to think of Slin Sane only as a carbohydrate additive in order to attenuate blood sugar rises which can result in fat gain.

    Recompadrol on the other hand is more versatile (but not more proliferative of efficacious, simply different), and can be used prior to a more complete spectrum of meals, mitigating adipogenesis with HCA and other compounds that can turn nearly any whole food meal into a muscle feeding phenomenon. I use Recompadrol exclusively and primarily for my post-post-workout meal, in order to prolong the opening of the training-induced anabolic window and heightened nutrient utilization by the body to enhance the rapidity of recovery.
    DAMN! That was a hell of answer. Somebody get this man AP and Glycobol cause I need to know what you think of them. It's hard to find good posts like this. So your bulking and you don't want to gain as much fat(or even cutting) what kind of insulin mimic would you use?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    DAMN! That was a hell of answer. Somebody get this man AP and Glycobol cause I need to know what you think of them. It's hard to find good posts like this. So your bulking and you don't want to gain as much fat(or even cutting) what kind of insulin mimic would you use?
    I love authoring complete and detailed posts, especially when I have specific experience with the compounds in question.

    I have tried Glycobol, went through nearly six bottle back-to-back during my 2010 contest prep - thought it was (and still is) among the BEST GDAs on the market - PERIOD!

    To answer your other question to keep fat gain at bay while consuming enough calories to sustain anabolism, I wouldn't change a thing: Recompadrol, Slin Sane, and if you can afford it since the ingredient profiles vary enough to justify its inclusion, Glycobol.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by reptone View Post
    Subbed. I`m about to start a recomp of sorts in 2 weeks. Try T3 stacked with Halovar, Androhard, maybe Dermacrine(everything listed in my thread in Anabolics). Your log is very interesting. I`m not doing contest so I can cheat a little more. LOL Going out for steak later. Steak is cool but the garlic mashed and everything else will kill me. LOL.
    Welcome! Oh my, mashed potatoes with garlic and butter, or even mashed red skin potatoes that some restaurants serve are AWESOMLICIOUS!

    I'm not prepping for a contest right now... only doing a few months of a recomp before going to Las Vegas as I do every year to watch the Mr. Olympia and take a nice vacation. I want to be able to walk around the expo without looking like Pee Wee Herman with AIDS by comparison

  26. hahaha -- loving the log!
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Welcome! Oh my, mashed potatoes with garlic and butter, or even mashed red skin potatoes that some restaurants serve are AWESOMLICIOUS!

    I'm not prepping for a contest right now... only doing a few months of a recomp before going to Las Vegas as I do every year to watch the Mr. Olympia and take a nice vacation. I want to be able to walk around the expo without looking like Pee Wee Herman with AIDS by comparison
    Please take me with you I watched Mr.O by myself and my friends made fun of me the entire GD time. I still going to watch this year cause House is going to in it. I want to see him compared to Jay. Those are the only two people I REALLY want to see.

    On other notes I could barely afford Glycobol and I tried to get a Natabolic stack so I would have some money for other stuff but I lost

  28. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    hahaha -- loving the log!
    Back at ya Night Owl

    Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    Please take me with you I watched Mr.O by myself and my friends made fun of me the entire GD time. I still going to watch this year cause House is going to in it. I want to see him compared to Jay. Those are the only two people I REALLY want to see.

    On other notes I could barely afford Glycobol and I tried to get a Natabolic stack so I would have some money for other stuff but I lost
    Did you watch the streaming web cast? I always think its funny to hear Dan offer up commentary on the athletes, he actually does a very good and compelling job at it, although he's never lifted a day in his life (well, comparatively).

    For those on the outside looking in, bodybuilding can be confusing and somewhat of a target for immature finger pointing and snickering. It is hard for some people to understand we are admiring the limitless amount of fervor and passion the athletes exude during a majority of their lives, just to grace that stage - the apex of their sport/profession; we're not ogling gown men in their posing suits (well, some are from the looks of the audience I'm sure haha).

    Las Vegas gets me every time... what a wonderful place - full of energy and plain old sheer wonderfulness.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Outstanding View Post
    Back at ya Night Owl



    Did you watch the streaming web cast? I always think its funny to hear Dan offer up commentary on the athletes, he actually does a very good and compelling job at it, although he's never lifted a day in his life (well, comparatively).

    For those on the outside looking in, bodybuilding can be confusing and somewhat of a target for immature finger pointing and snickering. It is hard for some people to understand we are admiring the limitless amount of fervor and passion the athletes exude during a majority of their lives, just to grace that stage - the apex of their sport/profession; we're not ogling gown men in their posing suits (well, some are from the looks of the audience I'm sure haha).

    Las Vegas gets me every time... what a wonderful place - full of energy and plain old sheer wonderfulness.
    Yeah at bodybuildingdotcom live streaming it. It was my first time watching Mr.O(sense I've been into working only for 16 months or so now) and the female competition shocked the sh*t out of me and made me feel bad about myself. The male bodybuilder kinda got boring cause it was a live stream and lessoning to bbdotcom people talk was getting annoying. I also love it when the females walk out to present them with the medal and there taller than the bodybuilders

  30. Quote Originally Posted by luelinks View Post
    Yeah at bodybuildingdotcom live streaming it. It was my first time watching Mr.O(sense I've been into working only for 16 months or so now) and the female competition shocked the sh*t out of me and made me feel bad about myself. The male bodybuilder kinda got boring cause it was a live stream and lessoning to bbdotcom people talk was getting annoying. I also love it when the females walk out to present them with the medal and there taller than the bodybuilders
    I love witnessing people's first experience with a bodybuilding contest... I can remember when I was there, and there is usually one of two reactions to it. A huge majority of friends and family I have seen in the audience or even watching a DVD of Jay Cutler are stunned, intrigued, and blown away with their jaw seemingly unhinged on the floor; whereas some (usually female ironically enough) will completely dismiss it as a senseless freak show of grotesque proportions.
  

  
 

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