Outstanding's Summer/Fall ALPHA(T2)MALE (sl)INSANE RECOMP(adrol)!
- 07-30-2010, 08:24 AM
- 07-30-2010, 08:52 AM
This week wrapped up quite nicely - although I had to avoid the pitfall of cheat-food awesomeness yesterday. I was having visions of stuffed crust DiGiornos dancing in my head, gooey four cheese enveloping the polka-dotted sausage and peperoni laden crust... beckoning with feverish intensity to my taste buds, exciting my salivary glands. Were I a weaker man, I would still have onion on my breath, and a new deposit of unsightly pudginess around my midsection. In an attempt to quell my insatiable desire for cheese stuffed ecstasy, I hurried up the stairs to the kitchen, and whipped up a meat-head approved grilled cheese; 100% grain bread, with reduced fat splendor in the form of cheese between the golden brown (by fat free canola cooking spray) slices of Mmmmmmmm.
Training this week was very productive - one workout of note was Tuesday morning's Arm Assault, which I contemplated on after the final rep was completed... finally arriving at the conclusion it was one of the most skin torturing pumps I have ever felt (in all the years of my training). My arms were so pumped, there was an actual painful sensation stemming from the skin and rooted nearly to the bone. I have usually only encountered these types of 'swells' after a post-contest food binge, depriving myself of any semblance of sugar in a controlled starvation for months on end to reach single digit body-fat - and then partaking in an endless plate shuffling calorie heaven soon after the trophies are awarded; sending me into an insulin induced near coma, but resulting in life changing pumps the following few days. It is truly a sensation that can't be justly elucidated by means of a keyboard and the limitation of the English language.
A couple days during the mid-week stretch included 2-a-day insanity. My energy levels stayed constant, thanks to Alpha T2, and the necessitated hyper-caloric intake to sustain muscle strength and glycogen was assisted by Recompadrol and Slin Sane. I am confounded and confused how Slin Sane, with its seemingly simple three ingredient blend, continues to elicit such solid and super-charged muscle volume and fullness. As I packed my lunch this morning, I made sure to toss the bottle of Slin Sane on top of all the chicken-filled Tupperware accompanied by Uncle Ben's 90-second rice sachets. The trick to deriving maximum benefit from Slin Sane, in my experience thus far, is to remain well hydrated, and to truly follow the label directions of dosing 15 minutes PRIOR to your first bite of the pre-workout meal. Protocol is also serving up an undeniable knockout punch where recovery and stamina is concerned... going a long way toward maxing out the 1-10 product rating in my mind, especially due to its taste and solubility (a product can be a supreme muscle building machine, but if I have to squint my eyes and choke down the powder with a look of sickness smeared across my face, the likelihood of repeat purchase or consistent usage is very slim).
I have recently formed some very pressing questions that I am intent on settling. The primary uncertainty I have, concerns GDAs and timing. I have read elsewhere and developed my own theory that GDAs immediately following a workout with the post-workout shake/or whole-food, is redundant and moot, because the body has already been stimulated to set the stage for optimal nutrient uptake and partitioning. I usually dose GDAs such as Recompadrol, Glycobol, or pure r-ALA with my post-post workout meal, in order to encourage my body's 1 1/2 hour carb shuttling/utilizing state to max out or prolong, so I can soak up every last calorie as muscle rebuilding fuel before that workout-induced anabolic window closes for the day (I only use Slin Sane prior to breakfast, and my pre-workout meal). I would be very appreciative to hear all of your thoughts regarding GDA usage for optimal results, anabolism, and adipogenesis aversion.
- 08-01-2010, 11:42 AM
08-01-2010, 11:46 AM
08-01-2010, 11:52 AM
08-01-2010, 11:53 AM
08-01-2010, 11:59 AM
P.S. somebody from AI said on one of the threads that some people don't really see any effects until 6 caps but the recommendation on the bottle says 4 tops. Is that true?
08-01-2010, 12:02 PM
I would be very surprised. It's actually not uncommon for guys to lower the dose to under four caps per day. All of our products are formulated to be ran at optimal doses for 30 days.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any other questions. I don't want to hijack Outstanding's thread
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
08-01-2010, 12:04 PM
"Basal Nutraceutical Preparations
- Genomyx Slin Sane
- PES Alpha T2
- Lean Body Formulations Recompadrol"
Slin Sane is $20 I think and Recompadrol is $30. So which one do you think is better?
08-01-2010, 12:21 PM
The wheels keep on turning... and so far so GREAT! I feel like I'm humming down an interstate superhighway in a new Bentley GT, cruise control on and freshly paved black top just below the revolving rubber.
I jotted down a few POI (points of interest) that have been swimming around in the good old gray matter this previous week - and hope its alright if I start there; a bullet-list weekly synopsis of sorts.
-Alpha T2 has been paying back dividends in a big way, a very smooth and now enjoyable voyage toward progressive fat loss. I can tell the thermogenic properties are in full fledged effect. I am crossing my fingers my other bottle of AT2 arrives in the mail before my current supply is drained, so I can continue along the cycle flawlessly, and report back with my ongoing thoughts. I am curious though, about the optimal side-by-side dosing of this T2 supplement would be with T3; should they be dosed concomitantly, or should AT2 be used solely during the day, and Cytomel saved for the evening in order to burn through adipose tissue as I sleep?
-I am intent on the cessation of my insulin (Humulin-R) usage, and would like to close this chapter on my first experience with exogenous insulin. I have read some slightly conflicting reports throughout the under ground annals of forums and research articles though, and am torn on the best method of disuse, whether to taper or stop cold turkey. I am stopping the use of insulin because of several factors, including but not limited to a slowing in the lipolytic reaction in response to dieting, a slight yet noticeable stomach bloat, and the slim yet plausible nominal risk of severely or permanently attenuating my body's natural ability to excrete insulin naturally (also, I have not realized NEAR the purported anabolic effect from calculated insulin usage that is propagated online). Another pressing question is... what supplements can I administer to up-regulate and repair my body's endogenous insulin mechanisms and sensitivity back to basal or augmented levels (akin to repairing b2 receptors post Clenbuterol use, or TSH levels post T3 usage).
-SDN's ROGUE just arrived in the mail yesterday! This supplement is the last addition to my Summer/Fall Recomp leading up to the Mr. Olympia contest/vacation. After dosing 2 caps twice daily on Saturday, and 2 caps this morning prior to breakfast with Slin Sane and Recompadrol - I am EXTREMELY most full and pumped than I can recall ever being simply sitting in front of a computer screen. My arms and chest are pushing out against my shirt, and my entire sense of well being is improved - not to mention a DRAMATIC increase in appetite. I am watching the clock, trying to get that second hand to sweep faster in order to being my next meal, mere moments after the final bite of my proceeding meal. I have never felt effects this fast, evident, and powerful from ANY OTC supplement I have ever tried during the tenure of my bodybuilding career and endeavoring (aside from Generation-1 PHs years ago, and perhaps high Slin Sane intake prior to a cheat meal).
-I will be purchasing HCG and Clomid late next week, in an anticipatory measure to have all PCT items on hand and readily available once the anabolic constituents of my cycle are disused. Still not committed in stone to how and when I will be starting the Clomid or HCG injections.
-This past week's training has been another MASSIVE success... I have been able to time-and-time again tap into energy stores that seem nearly limitless, even when training twice daily (which happened twice this week). The pumps and stamina are not only still substantial, but seem to be improving with each successive bout in the gym. I am feeling unstoppable, and with ongoing slight tweaks to my nutrition, I am seeing the midsection tighten and my overall physique seem to slowly yet constantly enlarge, as an illusion of perspective caused by composition (fat mass to lean mass) changes.
-I have been eating low-far Brown Sugar Cinnamon Pop Tarts as my post workout meal once again (I did this several years ago). I believe the reduced fat version alleviates any slowing of the glycemic reaction, and also reduced potential lipogenesis as a result of insulin injection.
-Lastly... as I briefly mentioned in another thread, I have been so blown away by Slin Sane, I have started to use it in non traditional ways; meaning before breakfast and prior to bed. Pre-breakfast elicits an incomparable muscle fullness in response to the oatmeal or shredded 100% whole wheat cereal + soy milk eaten 15 minutes later. Dosing Slin Sane prior to falling asleep has also shown amazing potential, as it empties my body of any excess glycogen and saturates my recovering lean tissues with fuel and fullness, awaking to a round and hard physique.
The week was quite a success... and with the dosing increase of HCA powder from Lean Body Formulations, as well as a consistent reliance on their Recompadrol product, all meshed with the above mentioned tweaks - I am growing more excited about the proceeding 7 weeks than I can remember being in quite a long time!
08-01-2010, 12:30 PM
I say that because in my opinion their MOA and intended effect in vivo vary drastically. Slin Sane is meant to serve as a pre-workout supercharger of sorts, forcing your body to utilize the pre-workout meal carbohydrates, using them as fuel to impart an amazing pump (which is also supported and achieved via a nice dose of Norvaline). I tend to think of Slin Sane only as a carbohydrate additive in order to attenuate blood sugar rises which can result in fat gain.
Recompadrol on the other hand is more versatile (but not more proliferative of efficacious, simply different), and can be used prior to a more complete spectrum of meals, mitigating adipogenesis with HCA and other compounds that can turn nearly any whole food meal into a muscle feeding phenomenon. I use Recompadrol exclusively and primarily for my post-post-workout meal, in order to prolong the opening of the training-induced anabolic window and heightened nutrient utilization by the body to enhance the rapidity of recovery.
08-01-2010, 12:49 PM
Subbed. I`m about to start a recomp of sorts in 2 weeks. Try T3 stacked with Halovar, Androhard, maybe Dermacrine(everything listed in my thread in Anabolics). Your log is very interesting. I`m not doing contest so I can cheat a little more. LOL Going out for steak later. Steak is cool but the garlic mashed and everything else will kill me. LOL.
08-01-2010, 01:40 PM
08-01-2010, 10:55 PM
I have tried Glycobol, went through nearly six bottle back-to-back during my 2010 contest prep - thought it was (and still is) among the BEST GDAs on the market - PERIOD!
To answer your other question to keep fat gain at bay while consuming enough calories to sustain anabolism, I wouldn't change a thing: Recompadrol, Slin Sane, and if you can afford it since the ingredient profiles vary enough to justify its inclusion, Glycobol.
08-01-2010, 11:14 PM
I'm not prepping for a contest right now... only doing a few months of a recomp before going to Las Vegas as I do every year to watch the Mr. Olympia and take a nice vacation. I want to be able to walk around the expo without looking like Pee Wee Herman with AIDS by comparison
08-01-2010, 11:19 PM
08-01-2010, 11:28 PM
On other notes I could barely afford Glycobol and I tried to get a Natabolic stack so I would have some money for other stuff but I lost
08-01-2010, 11:37 PM
For those on the outside looking in, bodybuilding can be confusing and somewhat of a target for immature finger pointing and snickering. It is hard for some people to understand we are admiring the limitless amount of fervor and passion the athletes exude during a majority of their lives, just to grace that stage - the apex of their sport/profession; we're not ogling gown men in their posing suits (well, some are from the looks of the audience I'm sure haha).
Las Vegas gets me every time... what a wonderful place - full of energy and plain old sheer wonderfulness.
08-02-2010, 12:03 AM
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08-02-2010, 01:56 PM
08-02-2010, 02:51 PM
08-06-2010, 04:00 PM
Another week, another string of amazing workouts that have become as predictable as clockwork.
The ongoing and intensifying enjoyment I'm having during this cycle is highlighted and underlined in contrast to the first week or two, when I was having headaches and a complete loss of appetite and energy.
With the addition of ROGUE, rounding out my planned Summer Recomp, I feel as though my stack is complete, and every constituent is offering up a specific and powerful addition to the synergy. The day-long pumps are real, of course nothing like while actually training, but the fullness is so evident it absolutely has to be the pairing of Superdrol with the pair of unsurpassed GDAs in the form of Slin Sane and Recompadrol.
I went back and re-read the write-up on Recompadrol, and its amazing how complete the product really is... with the exception of na-r-ala I would argue it is quite simply the most balanced, well thought out, perfectly executed partitioner available in the market today - BAR NONE.
Alpha T2 keeps my body temperature slightly warmer than I would like, but that only tells me its working. I can't fault a product for making me a little uncomfortable, if that side effect is merely a byproduct of efficacy.
Something that I have not mentioned or discussed, that I believe would be helpful for others contemplating this stack or several of the products used, is that I have (so far) experienced NO joint pain or connective tissue stress whatsoever! Usually, in response to hard training and taking fat-burners which can have a diuretic effect, combined with the Superdrol's hardening effect - I would have at least taken note of some tenderness or had to adjust my training in some way to adjust for tendon soreness. Moving along full speed ahead, coming up on an entire full month of this Summer Recomp, I have NO outstanding (pun intended) negative side effects to report - of ANY kind!
08-08-2010, 12:52 AM
08-08-2010, 11:05 AM
I've been following your awesome log and was wondering how many recompadrol caps and slin sane caps you take per day and when? I'm looking to get that stack going as well. Thanks ....
08-08-2010, 12:35 PM
You asked a GREAT question, and I'm glad to answer it... especially since I am so thrilled by both Recompadrol AND Slin Sane. You're undoubtedly going to love this stack if you choose to move forward with the purchase; make sure to check out Nutraplanet for the stack, since they support us with a great forum like this.
Basically, I use Recompadrol (RCD) as my 'safety net' of sorts, as it is a versatile adjunct to my nutrition plan. RCD is used when I am ingesting any carbohydrate meal exceeding 50g (@1 cap 15 minutes prior), and doubling that dosage at any meal containing 80g of carbohydrates or more. My favorite use for RCD thus far, is in conjunction with the post-post workout meal, allowing me to prolong the anabolic window that is so favorable toward building and repairing muscle. The subsequent 90 minutes post training duration is the most crucial time to super-feed your body in order to initialize the sequence to realize new and expanded muscle. I will use pure r-ALA caps (800mg-1g) IMMEDIATELY post training, and then dose RCD prior to my following meal approximately 90 minutes later that is usually comprised of red potatoes and chicken breast, or egg whites and whole grain bread.
To answer the second half of your question, Slin Sane QUICKLY became one of my favorite supplements in my anabolic armory once I realized it too is quite versatile. The label instructions simply instruct users to dose 1 cap 15 minutes prior to their pre-workout meal, but upon further research and self-experimentation I have found TWO other amazing uses for it. I have been taking Slin Sane prior to breakfast, in order to efficiently handle the increased carbohydrate load, and also favorably shift the nutrients toward muscle glycogen replenishment coming off a night's 'fast.' The other use I have been thrilled with, is the pre-bed dosage, which seems to go against the usually encountered dogma that GDAs should only be taken with carbohydrates. By taking Slin Sane prior to falling asleep, I believe I have been able to 'scavenge' and remaining glycogen present in the body, ridding myself of excess blood sugar, encouraging a ketogenic state, and also waking up noticeably fuller and with a flatter midsection!
This incomparable one-two knockout of the supplement world has served me quite well... and I feel confident offering those high accolades, because I come from a background chalk full of years of various supplement use amidst my many competitive outings and ongoing research - so I would contend my opinion is founded on a solid bedrock of lifelong dedication to exacting detail and supplement familiarity.
08-08-2010, 12:51 PM
Thank you for the amazingly detailed response Outstanding. I actually just bought two of the Alpha T2 + Lean Xtreme stacks as well as two Slin Sane's and two Recompadrol's. It's going to be awesome. I'll be following along with your log the rest of the way, give it hell.
08-08-2010, 02:00 PM
08-09-2010, 01:25 PM
08-09-2010, 01:27 PM
This past week was punctuated with a solemn sadness. It pains me to no end, to muster up the courage to articulate the horrific tragedy that I have endured since my last Summer Recomp Update. With enough support from you, and digging down into the depths of my soul to seek out the tenacity and bravery to stand strong and exclaim this recent injustice that has befallen me will take all my might... for I have depleted my current stock of Slin Sane!!!
There I said it... oh man... hold on, give me a moment. I'm trying to gather myself here, ahem... I seem to have gotten something rather sharp and irritating in my eyes, go figure. (Deep breath....... quick confident exhale) OK, alright fellas, I'm here... lets move on shall we?
Aside from the unthinkable atrocity of being without my trustworthy carbohydrate companion Slin Sane, the rest of the week's comings and goings wrapped up quite nicely. Unfortunately, I must open up and confess something that makes me hang my head low in shame... I have succumbed to the tantalizing beckoning of succulent sweet food.
It was my intention, as outlined much earlier in this log, to continue along the nutritional straight and narrow for the remainder of my Recomp, leading up to the Westward journey to Las Vegas as the Mr. Olympia takes place on the Orlean's Arena stage. My intentions were honorable... but how can a mortal man, who is not dieting for a contest, refuse the juicy air filling hypnotizing scents and mouth watering wonder that is stuffed crust pizza? Luckily, my food folly wasn't as destructive as it would have been, since I of course preceded my binge with a veritable safety net of GDAs and HCA powder - bless the Recompadrol and Glycobol gods! Ironically enough, it was during this time of weakness, that Slin Sane would have been most appreciated and necessitated, but fate as it turns out, was not so friendly to deliver my current order via the USPS in time for my gluttony.
My appetite is raging like the final weeks leading up to a contest - something that is both advantageous and detrimental. The advantage can be found by consuming higher clean calories to fuel unrestrained anabolism... but of course the flip side to this constant hunger is that my mind constantly wanders, conjuring up visions of Penn Station Philly Swiss subs and McFlurries incessantly torturing and tempting me.
My energy levels are very low during the day, but when it comes time to train all systems are go - which is the important part. I would have to assume the low energy levels are due in part to the inclusion of GDAs lowering my blood sugar, and the increased intensity of training, all compounded by the fact its hard to sleep at night since my body temperature higher than normal.
I am curious how this protocol would be on a strictly regimented pre-contest diet... if I'm able to reduce the usually dramatic onset of new fat tissue by using the partitioning agents in conjunction with Superdrol, how dynamically strong would this synergy be on a hypo-caloric diet performing 2x/day cardio sessions leading into a stage battle?
As time wears on, I'm sure I'll have that question answered... because this consortium of supplements has treated me so well thus far, it would be severely counter intuitive not to also take advantage of the efficacy while dieting. I will be competing once again in 2011, near the fall so I can perform cardio outside and not suffer at the hand of the icy morning frost.
I'm watching the clock slowly tick its way to quitting time, and I'll be hurrying over to the gym to put those calories to work - hopefully on expanding the peak and thickness of my arms!
08-09-2010, 01:38 PM
P-slin is cheaper than Slin sane so would you think it'll make a good replacement? My biggest carb intakes are in the morning and post workout. I don't have problem eating I just want my food to go to the right places. This feels like a deja vu. I think I've asked you this before!
08-09-2010, 01:45 PM
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08-11-2010, 07:22 PM
08-11-2010, 07:58 PM
I just authored an Ayn Rand-esque comprehensive update 48 hours ago outlining my heart breaking temporary divorce from Slin Sane - but have no fear, I will make another crowd pleasing long winded entry on Friday from my place of work
Haha! Thanks for checking in my main hombre... more to come! I've also been constructing my pct protocol which I will begin to formulate here in the coming days and weeks.
I'm on the way home from arm-day right now... can't wait to chug something cold and amino acid laced. Oh, I also chose to disuse insulin a little over a week ago, just didn't seem to offer any type of advantage whatsoever.
08-11-2010, 08:05 PM
08-11-2010, 08:10 PM
08-13-2010, 04:26 PM
You bud I want to have a massive talk about these products should I pm you or do it on here? I wish I could come to Vegas and meet you!
08-13-2010, 07:06 PM
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