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Old 07-17-2007, 11:34 AM   #91
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So does the baby dropper have measurements on it or total amount? Do you then just drop onto hand and rub in?

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It has measurements usually up to 5ml or so.

You could drop it onto your hands, I personally just drop it onto the area of application, i.e. applying to chest, just take the dropper and drop some solution onto chest and rub in... same thing goes for shoulders, feet, etc. Makes me feel like I'm getting it where it belongs.
 



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Old 07-17-2007, 07:46 PM   #92
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Question for those running this on a ph/aas cycle. Will this have any effect on how you run your pct? What changes, if any, will you make? Thanks
 



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Question for those running this on a ph/anabolic steroids cycle. Will this have any effect on how you run your post cycle therapy? What changes, if any, will you make? Thanks
pct depends on how suppresive a cycle you run. i am doing furazadrol/td form and will just go wit dth/retain2/rpm for pct. although lots have done it, i dont think form a good idea for pct. just my opinion. good question.
 
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Question for those running this on a ph/anabolic steroids cycle. Will this have any effect on how you run your post cycle therapy? What changes, if any, will you make? Thanks
I can't speak for others, but I will still run my AI inverse to my serm. Of course, cort control and free test booster are in my pct plan as well.

Since you brought it up, I wonder if running the full dose AI while ON cycle and then switching to the lose dose AI (in ramp fashion) will have an adverse effect. Good question. I'm curious.

Should I taper formestane at the end of my cycle before pct?
 
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I can't speak for others, but I will still run my AI inverse to my serm. Of course, cort control and free test booster are in my post cycle therapy plan as well.

Since you brought it up, I wonder if running the full dose AI while ON cycle and then switching to the lose dose AI (in ramp fashion) will have an adverse effect. Good question. I'm curious.

Should I taper formestane at the end of my cycle before post cycle therapy?
yes yes and yes. as with all ai's its always a good idea to ramp down. the good thing is the ai effects of formestane will last after you stop taking it, you want to run your low dose ai pct just to prevent rebound.
 
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yes yes and yes. as with all ai's its always a good idea to ramp down. the good thing is the ai effects of formestane will last after you stop taking it, you want to run your low dose ai post cycle therapy just to prevent rebound.
To clarify my statement, I am running my form ON cycle and then switching to restore as my AI in post cycle therapy.

I plan to ramp up restore and then taper during post cycle therapy in this fashion: 1/2/3/3/2/1 (to prevent rebound as you had suggested T) I did my best to follow the rules in the "ATD inverse to SERM" thread.

My question is, do I taper the formestane at the end of the ON cycle period because of it's AI properties?

Edit: After reading your post again, i think you answered this already but do it again because I'm super special ed tonight
 
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To clarify my statement, I am running my form ON cycle and then switchingto restore as my AI in post cycle therapy.

I plan to ramp up restore and then taper during post cycle therapy in this fashion: 1/2/3/3/2/1 (to prevent rebound as you had suggested T) I'm did my best to follow the rules in the "ATD inverse to SERM" thread.

My question is, do I taper the formestane at the end of the ON cycle period because of it's AI properties?
i know what you were saying. if you run a 4 week pct, you could even run form into week 2 of pct. tapering off as you go, maybe down to 1 squirt a day at the end. less chance of rebound the longer you taper off. everyone has their own version of pct, look at whats out there and take the best,throw out the rest. its time to eat.
 
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Great post Neo. Thebigt turned me on to this stuff. I am looking forward to using it.
 
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* It increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid combined, without the negative effects of either drug! And in addition has been shown to continue to increase HPTA activity above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous use. Yes, this means more naturally produced testosterone!
* It decreases the number of progesterone receptors, which inhibits "trenbolone/deca-****" type side effects and increases fat loss. (Yes, better sex drive too). Why focus on performance unless you are able to perform? It increases IGF-1 production as much as 26%
* It decreases Steroid Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) by 34%, meaning there is that much more free testosterone/androgens flowing through your veins for enhanced anabolic activity naturally!
* It inhibits DHT formation and activity.
* It possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors and has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such a BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia) in some research (Cool plus but not our marketing area).

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* It increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid combined, without the negative effects of either drug! And in addition has been shown to continue to increase HPTA activity above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous use. Yes, this means more naturally produced testosterone!
* It decreases the number of progesterone receptors, which inhibits "trenbolone/deca-****" type side effects and increases fat loss. (Yes, better sex drive too). Why focus on performance unless you are able to perform? It increases IGF-1 production as much as 26%
* It decreases Steroid Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) by 34%, meaning there is that much more free testosterone/androgens flowing through your veins for enhanced anabolic activity naturally!
* It inhibits DHT formation and activity.
* It possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors and has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such a BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia) in some research (Cool plus but not our marketing area).

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you wont get an arguement from anyone here. hell prid and celc research stuff for years before they try it. welcome aboard the formestane bandwagon.
 
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you wont get an arguement from anyone here. hell prid and celc research stuff for years before they try it. welcome aboard the formestane bandwagon.
And then when we crash and burn, we blame thebigT and steal his fancy crown
 
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And then when we crash and burn, we blame thebigT and steal his fancy crown
does that mean when you get big and ripped i get the credit?
 
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you wont get an arguement from anyone here. hell prid and celc research stuff for years before they try it. welcome aboard the formestane bandwagon.
I'm running mass fx,oxo11 and formestance for 6wk cycle.For pct I'm thinking of using restore and tapering off formestance is this ok ? and after you stop your formestance cycle how long before you can run another doe's time off equal time on ? thanks for any help you can offer
 
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I'm running mass fx,oxo11 and formestance for 6wk cycle.For post cycle therapy I'm thinking of using restore and tapering off formestance is this ok ? and after you stop your formestance cycle how long before you can run another doe's time off equal time on ? thanks for any help you can offer
i think that looks like a great cycle. run you a bottle of restore after your cycle and you'll be fine. take a month off. damn im hungry.
 
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i think that looks like a great cycle. run you a bottle of restore after your cycle and you'll be fine. take a month off. damn im hungry.
I've been reading everyone's log's on the topic and I'm hooked on formestance.
 
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