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Old 07-12-2007, 03:58 PM   #61
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Based on the properties of the dermal carrier it maintains a realative amount of active hormone in the layers of skin over a prolonged period of time allowing for slow, gradual release of the product into the bloodstream for up to 12hrs. So, yes the "release" of form is around 12hrs, add in the active half life of form(which I have no clue about) and you have a pretty substantial time frame of hormone circulation.
 



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Old 07-12-2007, 04:11 PM   #62
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Well Celc you can rest assured that both you and BigT were the total inspiration for this FAQ so much love to yah! Good job!

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I like to use lotion AFTER applying eform. With no specific scientific reasoning whatsoever, I always feel that moisturization has definately helped my results.

Using the moisturizer seems to be along the lines of your suggestion T. Is there any logic that suggests moist skin, as opposed to dry, provides more effective transdermal delivery?



I believe that I've read that the 1/2 life is also 12 hours. I feel like I'm in maintenance after about the third dose (in day 2), but it seems I am hyper-responsive to form considering the low dose that I enjoy.

It's funny that you mentioned the 3-4 day mark. The first time I used E-form I thought it was simply an AI and wasn't aware of it's steroidal properties. At day 3-4, I felt very "ON" and my exact thoughts were, "So this must be what it feels like to take steroids!" I scrambled to the message boards to find out if I needed a post cycle therapy. I sure could have used a formestane FAQ about a year and a half ago
 



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Based on the properties of the dermal carrier it maintains a realative amount of active hormone in the layers of skin over a prolonged period of time allowing for slow, gradual release of the product into the bloodstream for up to 12hrs. So, yes the "release" of form is around 12hrs, add in the active half life of form(which I have no clue about) and you have a pretty substantial time frame of hormone circulation.
prld2gr8ns, that begs the question of what that "release" ratio/rate might be. Is it at varying strengths over that 12 hour time frame?
 
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prld2gr8ns, that begs the question of what that "release" ratio/rate might be. Is it at varying strengths over that 12 hour time frame?
That's a good question... I would assume that there is indeed an initial spike in the first few minutes of application just from mass absorption, after which the release decreases to a more gradual and sustained rate as the trapped hormones work their way thru to the bloodstream.
 



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That's a good question... I would assume that there is indeed an initial spike in the first few minutes of application just from mass absorption, after which the release decreases to a more gradual and sustained rate as the trapped hormones work their way thru to the bloodstream.
im i the only one who gets a flush after applying form? actually gives me a shiver.
 
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I defenitly feel a small rush of sorts shortly after applications, which I would assume is indeed a sign of rapid initial absorption.
 



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im i the only one who gets a flush after applying form? actually gives me a shiver.
When I dose 60 or 80mg in one dose, I get more of a "rush" than a "flush"

At the 60-80 dosage, I become a bit irritable and have some mild heart palpitations at night. So, I personally have to back off to about 40mg in the morning and 20mg in the evening for my sweet spot dosage.

I can't wait to start this up on Monday! If the H-drol kicks as much a$$ as the E-form, I'll be a lean mean powerlifting pumping iron machine RAaaaaaaaaaaOOOORRRR!!! ...unfortunately, the bigT is NOT intimidated
 
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celc, could you log that man... that sounds like a pretty dam good LBM stack I would like to keep track of.
 



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Old 07-12-2007, 09:17 PM   #69
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When I dose 60 or 80mg in one dose, I get more of a "rush" than a "flush"

At the 60-80 dosage, I become a bit irritable and have some mild heart palpitations at night. So, I personally have to back off to about 40mg in the morning and 20mg in the evening for my sweet spot dosage.

I can't wait to start this up on Monday! If the H-drol kicks as much a$$ as the E-form, I'll be a lean mean powerlifting pumping iron machine RAaaaaaaaaaaOOOORRRR!!! ...unfortunately, the bigT is NOT intimidated
celc, you know as well as me that its not us big guys you got to worry about. its the pissed off little guys with their automatic weapons.
 
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Prld: yup, no prob. Recomp all the way. I guess formestane isn't exactly NEEDED with the Halo clone, but it does work well with my recomp goals.

BigT: We better be careful or Neo will go ninja on us if we keep having fun in his thread
 
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Heheheh @ Celc just keep it on form and we're all good









 



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Do you guys have any advice for a clogged E-Form bottle? I tried cleaning out the sprayer part and tube, but no luck. Stuff worked really well for about a week. It would be great if I could find a better sprayer that would still provide the proper dosages.
 
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Do you guys have any advice for a clogged E-Form bottle? I tried cleaning out the sprayer part and tube, but no luck. Stuff worked really well for about a week. It would be great if I could find a better sprayer that would still provide the proper dosages.
Buy a baby dropper from walley world, and dose by the ml i.e. 5gr of Form in a bottle of penetrate(240ml) = 21mg/ml

Get's rid of the hassle of clogged sprayers and is a lot more accurate on achieving correct amounts in dosing.
 



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Do you guys have any advice for a clogged E-Form bottle? I tried cleaning out the sprayer part and tube, but no luck. Stuff worked really well for about a week. It would be great if I could find a better sprayer that would still provide the proper dosages.
E-form contains:
4oz solution
3 g formestane

Conversion:
1 fluid oz. = ~33.814 ml
4oz x 33.814 = 135.256ml per bottle
3000mg / 135.256 ml= 22.18mg/ml

prld, maybe double check my math... I can be "rythmatically" challenged at times

This is a good question because I have a ton of e-form, but have never had the nozzle clog on me. I should be prepared.
 
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