[prld2gr8ns]

It is used with anything that can aromatize for on cycle protection including PH's. As for the EVO stack, it would probably overlap somewhat with the purported AI effects of other products in the stack.

[celc5]

Originally Posted by DefTek

Possibly been covered but cant find where - is the use of Formestane only beneficial when on gear or can you put it in a PH stack - right now starting my third week of the EVO stack and was just wondering where I could fit this in - or if it would even be neccessary or wise. I did see a reference to using it with Epi I think.

I agree 100% with prld. JW and Restore are SUPPOSED to do the job and adding form would be redundant IMO.

In my experience with the ALRI stack and E-form, formestane blows the ALRI products out of the water.

I would use formestane solo with staples or ON cycle as prld suggested with aromatizing PHs. BigT told me that form + epi was super dry and he got some pretty rough joint pain. I believe he may have mentioned something to that effect in his thread.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by celc5

I agree 100% with prld. JW and Restore are SUPPOSED to do the job and adding form would be redundant IMO.

In my experience with the ALRI stack and E-form, formestane blows the ALRI products out of the water.

I would use formestane solo with staples or ON cycle as prld suggested with aromatizing PHs. BigT told me that form + epi was super dry and he got some pretty rough joint pain. I believe he may have mentioned something to that effect in his thread.

bigt adds formestane to epi.

[Dutchman]

Originally Posted by celc5

I agree 100% with prld. JW and Restore are SUPPOSED to do the job and adding form would be redundant IMO.

In my experience with the ALRI stack and E-form, formestane blows the ALRI products out of the water.

I would use formestane solo with staples or ON cycle as prld suggested with aromatizing PHs. BigT told me that form + epi was super dry and he got some pretty rough joint pain. I believe he may have mentioned something to that effect in his thread.

Hate to be disruptive here but I am running Epi + Form right now (in week 3) and I have not had that problem at all. Now at my age, and with the, for me, extremely high weights I lift, I am very prone to joint problems. But I have NOT had any such problems at all. Yesterday on the Hammer Strength Bench Press I did 5 X 320 with none whatsoever. I am covering my butt by taking 3 Super Cissus before each workout.

[prld2gr8ns]

Awesome to hear dutch. You need to stop by more often buddy.

[celc5]

Originally Posted by Dutchman

Hate to be disruptive here but I am running Epi + Form right now (in week 3) and I have not had that problem at all. Now at my age, and with the, for me, extremely high weights I lift, I am very prone to joint problems. But I have NOT had any such problems at all. Yesterday on the Hammer Strength Bench Press I did 5 X 320 with none whatsoever. I am covering my butt by taking 3 Super Cissus before each workout.

Awesome!!! In my experience, which is CONSIDERABLY LESS than yours sir, Super Cissus is also a very effective supplement and would be a must on that stack.

Everyone ---> <--- Dutchman

[DefTek]

Thanks Celc5 and prld for the info - and to Dutchman

I think so far the best results I have ever had have been with Cissus - RC injury that never got the proper care has been hurting for almost 2 years... until I started using SuperCissus RX - before using 25lb DB for Arnolds killed me - now I am up to 50's before I call it - WOW is all I can say.

OP sry if the thread got hijacked a bit...

[neoborn]

Originally Posted by DefTek

Thanks Celc5 and prld for the info - and to Dutchman

I think so far the best results I have ever had have been with Cissus - RC injury that never got the proper care has been hurting for almost 2 years... until I started using SuperCissus RX - before using 25lb DB for Arnolds killed me - now I am up to 50's before I call it - WOW is all I can say.

OP sry if the thread got hijacked a bit...

Forgiven , it's all good.

[Jstrong20]

I'm surprised foremstane is not more popular than it is. Its good stuff and seems to give great strength gains all by its self. So I think its more versatile than just being an anti-e or for pct.

[thebigt]

Originally Posted by Dutchman

Hate to be disruptive here but I am running Epi + Form right now (in week 3) and I have not had that problem at all. Now at my age, and with the, for me, extremely high weights I lift, I am very prone to joint problems. But I have NOT had any such problems at all. Yesterday on the Hammer Strength Bench Press I did 5 X 320 with none whatsoever. I am covering my butt by taking 3 Super Cissus before each workout.

dutchman i have just one problem with you're posts, there arent enough of them. the cissus is a good idea, wish i would have used it then. best of luck and keep posting.

[neoborn]

I have just ordered 16oz Pentration fluid & 10g's formestane. I also ordered the cissus. So I'm gonna log:

1. Epidrol

2. Formestane

3. Bulk Cissus RX.

Coming up.

[thebigt]

haha, smart guy to follow the dutchman. the dutchman is trully worthy of admiration. i read a post of his about a year ago on bb.com. i couldnt believe the weight he was throwing, then i looked at his age and nearly freaked. anyone want to bet he is on the neighborhood watch, hell he is the neighborhood watch.

[lionelxxl]

Are you guys taking E-Form, or using the bulk formestane?

If bulk, the powder or mixing the powder into a carrier solution for transdermal application.

Just wondering if transdermal > oral. I can't seem to find studies with regards to this nor solid anecdotal feedback.

Its so much easier to just take 1/4 tsp (550mg) IMO..but i'm not sure if it pans out in reality.

[prld2gr8ns]

Originally Posted by lionelxxl

Are you guys taking E-Form, or using the bulk formestane?

Both.

If bulk, the powder or mixing the powder into a carrier solution for transdermal application.

Mixing in penetrate(sold at NP) solution.

Just wondering if transdermal > oral. I can't seem to find studies with regards to this nor solid anecdotal feedback.

Its so much easier to just take 1/4 tsp (550mg) IMO..but i'm not sure if it pans out in reality.

For all intents and purposes trans is the better way, however some have stated that oral doses have worked out quit well, just eats into the product a lot faster, and gets pretty expensive.

[thebigt]

Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns

Both.



Mixing in penetrate(sold at NP) solution.



For all intents and purposes trans is the better way, however some have stated that oral doses have worked out quit well, just eats into the product a lot faster, and gets pretty expensive.

good answer.