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  1. BTW Helios has helped me get rid of some breast tissue
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Warwarrior View Post
    Hey bros! I was hoping to get your opinion on this confusing matter.

    When dealing with 19-nor stuff like Tren or Deca should you take nolva if gyno appears or do u just make it worse by taking it?

    Thanks bros!
    Do not take nolva while taking 19-nor's, it will make you more susceptible to prolactin gyno, think its caba u need, i herd also 200mg twice a day of vitamin b6 can lower prolactin levels which can reduce the risk of prolactin gyno from 19nor's.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mik14

    Do not take nolva while taking 19-nor's, it will make you more susceptible to prolactin gyno, think its caba u need, i herd also 200mg twice a day of vitamin b6 can lower prolactin levels which can reduce the risk of prolactin gyno from 19nor's.
    I definitely agree with this.
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    very nice. thanks for the info. great idea
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  5. Have a question for anyone who would be willing to help me with it. I'm on 150mg/week of test cyp for HRT, and started an epistane cycle about a week a go, so far I have been running it at 30, was going to go to 40 this week. This past week I noticed a small knot on the top edge of my nipple, but my nipples aren't sore, or lactating. They are puffy, but I'm at around 14% body fat, so it's hard to truly tell. If it was an early symptom of gyno, would the knot or nipples be sore? If you over feel your nipples, can that make a knot? I was taking erase prior to starting the epi, but I stopped due to epi acting like an AI. If this is a gyno symptom would an OTC AI be strong enough(6oxo,formeron,formesurg e), or would I need a RC grade AI? Appreciate anyone who would help me here!

  6. Any help would be great. Currently 14 days into a 30mg havoc with 150 furuza cycle and I have started to get puffy nipples. No pain, lumps, or fiberous tissue. Is this the beginning of gyno? Should I stop and start my nolva pct?

    Is this something that just happens and reverses itself or do I need to head off any trouble.

    Thanks for any help.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Aritch
    Any help would be great. Currently 14 days into a 30mg havoc with 150 furuza cycle and I have started to get puffy nipples. No pain, lumps, or fiberous tissue. Is this the beginning of gyno? Should I stop and start my nolva pct?

    Is this something that just happens and reverses itself or do I need to head off any trouble.

    Thanks for any help.
    I would stop the havoc and get on nolva. Havoc gave me gyno and I just had surgery to remove it. Don't think epi won't give you gyno. But this is just from my experiences. No trying to scare you. If you do continue the cycle monitor your nips and I would atleast throw in 20 mg of nolva Ed to make sure it doesn't get worse.

  8. Are puffy nipples the beginning of gyno? No itching or sensitivity to touch.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Aritch
    Are puffy nipples the beginning of gyno? No itching or sensitivity to touch.
    kinda. but theres a lot of reason why nipples could be puffy. water retention is the biggest reason. fatty nips is another. id look for the itchyness as my first sign. once its sensitive to tough, then you know theres somethin up

  10. Another question, can you start nolva during a cycle? Say run nolva at 20 for a few days then down to 10 without adverse effects?

    I am just unsure of what starting nolva during a cycle tapering off then starting a pct will do.

    I think my puffiness is probably not due to estrogen or progestin but probably water retention. I shot up 8 lbs in a week and was extremely thirsty till my weight stabilized. Additionally I have kinda had fatty nips since I can remember. I've always wanted more tight nips even at 7% bf when I was 20.

    This is my first cycle and I am probably paranoid but I would rather not deal with gyno.
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  11. Deff experiencing some gyno in my right nipple. Sensitive, some mild pain to touch, palpable lump, and some discharge when squeezed. Just curious if I should go to an endocrinologist or my regular practitioner first with my symptoms? And what exactly should I expect at this visit? Any help appreciated, got a little anxiety about approaching my doc with this.

  12. thanks u have completely put my mind to rest about my perceived very slight gyno (puffy nipples) i now am almost certain that i am imagining it to be more than it is as i would most likely know straight away if i had gyno instead of studying it in the mirror for ages and not being certain. I now feel alot more relaxed knowing that its very likely i can get rid of my puffy nipples with some tamoxifen or an ai.
    Thanks alot

  13. I can't start threads because I don't have enough posts. but topical SERMs and AIs look very promising. I've seen studies with 4-hydroxytamoxifen ( on of the active metabolites of tamoxifen) and with letro and anastrozole.

    Much higher concentrations of the drugs can be achieved in breast tissue compared to oral ingestion. This will allow for a much greater reduction in estrogenic effects in these tissues and allow the avoidance of systemic side effects.

    I know I've only got 18 posts here and so you guys might not think much of my advice. but I would strongly recommend to anyone using SERMs or AIs for gyno that they try them topically.

    I'd post links but I can't because again I don't have enough posts. but you guys can google. I

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Goose8 View Post
    Have a question for anyone who would be willing to help me with it. I'm on 150mg/week of test cyp for HRT, and started an epistane cycle about a week a go, so far I have been running it at 30, was going to go to 40 this week. This past week I noticed a small knot on the top edge of my nipple, but my nipples aren't sore, or lactating. They are puffy, but I'm at around 14% body fat, so it's hard to truly tell. If it was an early symptom of gyno, would the knot or nipples be sore? If you over feel your nipples, can that make a knot? I was taking erase prior to starting the epi, but I stopped due to epi acting like an AI. If this is a gyno symptom would an OTC AI be strong enough(6oxo,formeron,formesurg e), or would I need a RC grade AI? Appreciate anyone who would help me here!
    Personal question that you have no obligation to answer mate, but if someone is put on HRT is it always intended to be a permanent thing? Are u on HRT because of naturally occurring low test or whatever it is that you have or is a result of previous steroid/prohormone use (if u have any?). Im not familiar with hrt or treatments or low test etc, but could it do further damage to you by taking extra, much higher doses of other steroids for bodybuilding by reducing any chance of you're natty hormone levels returning to normal? I've never thought about it but it just seems like giving someone test shots for low test would obviously cure the side effects of low test but would basically be giving up on any attempt at restoring natty test levels to normal because im guessing it would shut u down further than u are?
    I guess if it is intended to be permanent it would be like a free ticket to get on other steroids without worrying about shutdown and stuff lol. Is it also mega easy for you to source your'e AI's n stuff by getting prescriptions?
    Do you not need to run any kind of pct after you get off EPI or whatever? cause youre already shut down?
    Or is the level of test they give you just enough to help you're symptoms but is low enough that it doesn't shut u down further?
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    Good info

  16. Hey Bro, I've been stressing over this for quite awhile, can you identify these pictures for me and tell me if I have this problem? I weigh 175 and i'm 5'8. I can't wear the shirts that I want to wear thanks to this. My nipples get hard too much. Sounds pretty weird and all but yeah... If theres an email you can give me so I can send you the pictures it'd be great because for some reason the pictures arent showing up on this thing.

  17. Very informative

  18. First I would like to say thank you for the awesome thread. Now with that said I noticed that my pecs are something like the second picture where the guy has fat tissue on the lower region. Is there a way to remove the tissue without surgery?

  19. Also I don't have any other symptom besides the fatty tissue.
  20. Great to know


    Best explanation ive ever seen

  21. I really like the picture comparison -- a lot of people might just think that because they have big pecs, they have gyno, so that kind of puts the nail down.

  22. ralox @ 45mg for 6-20wks will do it. low dose of stane too to control the big E

  23. So what's up with the guy in the second pic on the first page? Does he have gyno just by his appearance ?

  24. So after reading through the topic, I have a question about the subject. I have not used any type of prohormones for a long time now,for about a year. Back while I was taking a product I developed symptoms like tender nips, little lumps and mild mild discharge. I stopped taking the product and start arimidex. The discharge stopped, the tenderness went away and the lump under one nipple left but one stayed with really no problem. Months and month and month go by and out of the blue my right nipple has now flared up, its sensitive and there is a small lump. I haven't touched anything except food, protein and p reworkout. No hormones, no nothing! I have read so many half ass articles about rebound this and that, take caber, drink more water, use more drugs and someone told me about black lion research product called prolactrone. People swear by it but I have no clue. Im not getting any swollen bitch tit weird nipple but this **** is disheartening. Anyone have a inside look into this matter? Is this seriously the possibility that you can have this **** flare up after this long? In other words am I doomed

  25. I've been to the doc and they agreed with me in having a gyno of about 2cm.

    I'm about to do plastic surgery, is there any chance I can reduce it other than with surgery?

    Thanks.

  26. As with Maxinator I have had something similar come up as well in my right nipple. I have not done any prohormones and have just used androstene more than a year ago and did a PCT then and things seemed fine. About 4-5 months ago my right nipple was very sensitive and being annoying. So I setup appt with PCP and he sent me to get an Ultrasound and they ended up doing that and a mamogram. They concluded it was most likely gyno. It is about the size of a pea. I have not followed up with my PCP to see next options/steps yet, but really don't want to do surgery if I can avoid.
    I am first wondering why this is coming up now and is it something I can use an AI or SERM and be done with it for good? Or am I risking other issues doing this now and getting my hormones out of whack. Or is my body at 44 telling me something is off and I need to look into?
    They noted that it could be medications based issues, but I am not sure. I am currently on Humira for a type of RA, Crestor for chorlesterol and Melixicam for migranes and I dont think they are supposed to have any sort of issues like this.

    Thoughts or comments?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Cringer View Post
    I've been to the doc and they agreed with me in having a gyno of about 2cm.

    I'm about to do plastic surgery, is there any chance I can reduce it other than with surgery?

    Thanks.
    Using Drugs to treat Gyno

    There is every chance, if you can read and have about 100 bux and the brain capacity to understand the written word. It's a little involved, but the answers are all practically there. You have to understand most doctors are idiots, and care more about milking your insurance or medical coverage than actually treating your gyno. Another thing you have to understand is that a lot of doctors just prescribe **** by the book, having no idea whatsoever how it works and what it does... these are textbook doctors.

    All the info in the link above that I posted is backed by real life experience, and medically sound and verified, if you can read you can fix your own gyno

  28. Thanks so far. I'll have a read into it.

    Will this also work if I have my gyno for several years?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Cringer View Post
    Thanks so far. I'll have a read into it.

    Will this also work if I have my gyno for several years?
    Depends on the individual circumstances and personal body response. I know raloxifene particularly has been used to treat set-in gyno in some medical studies, and the response was individual based, but on the whole it effectively reduced the size and development of the gyno over the course of treatment (2-3 months I believe at 60mg daily) and in some cases eliminated the gyno entirely.

    Will depend entirely on you and your own personal determination, as well as understanding of your own physiology. Maybe this link can help for further knowledge;

    http://www.lifetrainings.com/Your-un...-you-life.html

    ^^True story by the way, speaking from personal and direct experience. I've cured countless ailments with this understanding alone, cancer cases included... so it follows by extension that gyno shouldn't even remotely be an issue
  

  
 

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