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07-03-2012 04:55 AM
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07-04-2012 06:16 AM
Do not take nolva while taking 19-nor's, it will make you more susceptible to prolactin gyno, think its caba u need, i herd also 200mg twice a day of vitamin b6 can lower prolactin levels which can reduce the risk of prolactin gyno from 19nor's.
Originally Posted by Warwarrior
07-12-2012 09:40 PM
I definitely agree with this.
Originally Posted by mik14
11-26-2012 09:27 PM
very nice. thanks for the info. great idea
12-02-2012 12:29 PM
Have a question for anyone who would be willing to help me with it. I'm on 150mg/week of test cyp for HRT, and started an epistane cycle about a week a go, so far I have been running it at 30, was going to go to 40 this week. This past week I noticed a small knot on the top edge of my nipple, but my nipples aren't sore, or lactating. They are puffy, but I'm at around 14% body fat, so it's hard to truly tell. If it was an early symptom of gyno, would the knot or nipples be sore? If you over feel your nipples, can that make a knot? I was taking erase prior to starting the epi, but I stopped due to epi acting like an AI. If this is a gyno symptom would an OTC AI be strong enough(6oxo,formeron,formesurg e), or would I need a RC grade AI? Appreciate anyone who would help me here!
01-25-2013 12:34 AM
Any help would be great. Currently 14 days into a 30mg havoc with 150 furuza cycle and I have started to get puffy nipples. No pain, lumps, or fiberous tissue. Is this the beginning of gyno? Should I stop and start my nolva pct?
Is this something that just happens and reverses itself or do I need to head off any trouble.
Thanks for any help.
01-25-2013 01:01 AM
I would stop the havoc and get on nolva. Havoc gave me gyno and I just had surgery to remove it. Don't think epi won't give you gyno. But this is just from my experiences. No trying to scare you. If you do continue the cycle monitor your nips and I would atleast throw in 20 mg of nolva Ed to make sure it doesn't get worse.
Originally Posted by Aritch
01-25-2013 10:57 PM
Are puffy nipples the beginning of gyno? No itching or sensitivity to touch.
01-25-2013 11:03 PM
kinda. but theres a lot of reason why nipples could be puffy. water retention is the biggest reason. fatty nips is another. id look for the itchyness as my first sign. once its sensitive to tough, then you know theres somethin up
Originally Posted by Aritch
01-25-2013 11:30 PM
Another question, can you start nolva during a cycle? Say run nolva at 20 for a few days then down to 10 without adverse effects?
I am just unsure of what starting nolva during a cycle tapering off then starting a pct will do.
I think my puffiness is probably not due to estrogen or progestin but probably water retention. I shot up 8 lbs in a week and was extremely thirsty till my weight stabilized. Additionally I have kinda had fatty nips since I can remember. I've always wanted more tight nips even at 7% bf when I was 20.
This is my first cycle and I am probably paranoid but I would rather not deal with gyno.
02-03-2013 01:05 AM
Deff experiencing some gyno in my right nipple. Sensitive, some mild pain to touch, palpable lump, and some discharge when squeezed. Just curious if I should go to an endocrinologist or my regular practitioner first with my symptoms? And what exactly should I expect at this visit? Any help appreciated, got a little anxiety about approaching my doc with this.
03-05-2013 12:25 PM
thanks u have completely put my mind to rest about my perceived very slight gyno (puffy nipples) i now am almost certain that i am imagining it to be more than it is as i would most likely know straight away if i had gyno instead of studying it in the mirror for ages and not being certain. I now feel alot more relaxed knowing that its very likely i can get rid of my puffy nipples with some tamoxifen or an ai.
03-07-2013 05:25 PM
I can't start threads because I don't have enough posts. but topical SERMs and AIs look very promising. I've seen studies with 4-hydroxytamoxifen ( on of the active metabolites of tamoxifen) and with letro and anastrozole.
Much higher concentrations of the drugs can be achieved in breast tissue compared to oral ingestion. This will allow for a much greater reduction in estrogenic effects in these tissues and allow the avoidance of systemic side effects.
I know I've only got 18 posts here and so you guys might not think much of my advice. but I would strongly recommend to anyone using SERMs or AIs for gyno that they try them topically.
I'd post links but I can't because again I don't have enough posts. but you guys can google. I
03-09-2013 02:10 AM
Personal question that you have no obligation to answer mate, but if someone is put on HRT is it always intended to be a permanent thing? Are u on HRT because of naturally occurring low test or whatever it is that you have or is a result of previous steroid/prohormone use (if u have any?). Im not familiar with hrt or treatments or low test etc, but could it do further damage to you by taking extra, much higher doses of other steroids for bodybuilding by reducing any chance of you're natty hormone levels returning to normal? I've never thought about it but it just seems like giving someone test shots for low test would obviously cure the side effects of low test but would basically be giving up on any attempt at restoring natty test levels to normal because im guessing it would shut u down further than u are?
Originally Posted by Goose8
I guess if it is intended to be permanent it would be like a free ticket to get on other steroids without worrying about shutdown and stuff lol. Is it also mega easy for you to source your'e AI's n stuff by getting prescriptions?
Do you not need to run any kind of pct after you get off EPI or whatever? cause youre already shut down?
Or is the level of test they give you just enough to help you're symptoms but is low enough that it doesn't shut u down further?
03-15-2013 03:17 PM
03-28-2013 08:51 PM
Hey Bro, I've been stressing over this for quite awhile, can you identify these pictures for me and tell me if I have this problem? I weigh 175 and i'm 5'8. I can't wear the shirts that I want to wear thanks to this. My nipples get hard too much. Sounds pretty weird and all but yeah... If theres an email you can give me so I can send you the pictures it'd be great because for some reason the pictures arent showing up on this thing.
04-19-2013 10:33 PM
04-20-2013 03:42 AM
First I would like to say thank you for the awesome thread. Now with that said I noticed that my pecs are something like the second picture where the guy has fat tissue on the lower region. Is there a way to remove the tissue without surgery?
04-20-2013 03:44 AM
Also I don't have any other symptom besides the fatty tissue.
07-10-2013 02:50 PM
Great to know
Best explanation ive ever seen
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