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    Best athlete in the world!


    Who do you think is the best athlete in the world? To me, Roger Federer is the best athlete in the world right now. He dominates his sport more then anyone has since Jordan. I feel he is already the best tennis player of all time, and he still has a long way to go. To go along with his ridiculous talent, he is humble, and has a great personality. Any tennis fans here? Please don't say KOBE!

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    Answer LANCE ARMSTRONG

    Federer's has lost 109 times in the past 7 years.


    Lance Armstrong hasn't lost a single time in the past 7 years.
    Best of all his wins were ALL in FRANCE in the face of thousands of Frenchmen




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    He also plays 100 times a year, where Lance plays 1 time a year. Still good answer. I just don't really consider biking to be very athletic. Its just strictly endurance where in Tennis you have to have so many skills and athleticism. I'll have to check some stats, but Federer has absolutely dominated the last 4 or 5 years.
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    Ruling out which sport is more difficult, I'd have to agree with lance as far as dominating his sport. Regardless of how many times he's competed, he's defeated the BEST in his sport each time all at once, 7 years in a row.. That's what I call domination. Ask someone who the best tennis player has been for the last 7 years and you may get many differences of opinions. Ask who the best in lances sport is and 99.9% of the time you are going to hear Lance. Having said that, it's hard to compare sports and say which REQUIRES the best atheletes. I'm pretty sure I could ride a bike, but I know I can't play tennis to save my balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER
    Answer LANCE ARMSTRONG

    Federer's has lost 109 times in the past 7 years.


    Lance Armstrong hasn't lost a single time in the past 7 years.
    Best of all his wins were ALL in FRANCE in the face of thousands of Frenchmen




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    good answer. I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by max-rot98
    good answer. I agree.
    Cycling just isn't athletic. What Lance did is amazing, but he is not really an athlete, it takes endurance only. Maybe Kobiashi is the best athlete, he completely dominates in food eating contests, I just don't consider him to be an athlete.
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    LOL...Lance isn't athletic? Which planet did u get that crack from? No crack on earth would make someone say something that dumb

    However, I do agree that Federer is an awesome athlete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander
    He also plays 100 times a year, where Lance plays 1 time a year. Still good answer. I just don't really consider biking to be very athletic. Its just strictly endurance where in Tennis you have to have so many skills and athleticism. I'll have to check some stats, but Federer has absolutely dominated the last 4 or 5 years.
    But, Federer plays them each one at a time, armstrong plays them all at once, so he only needs one race
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    It's Fedor Emelianenko IMHO. He participates in one of the toughest (if not the toughest) sport in the world, is one of the most dominant athletes around at the moment. A couple years ago I would have said Alexander Karelin. I believe he is one of the greatest athletes of the last century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    Ruling out which sport is more difficult, I'd have to agree with lance as far as dominating his sport. Regardless of how many times he's competed, he's defeated the BEST in his sport each time all at once, 7 years in a row.. That's what I call domination. Ask someone who the best tennis player has been for the last 7 years and you may get many differences of opinions. Ask who the best in lances sport is and 99.9% of the time you are going to hear Lance. Having said that, it's hard to compare sports and say which REQUIRES the best atheletes. I'm pretty sure I could ride a bike, but I know I can't play tennis to save my balls.
    Its not really about difficult, I understand that Lance's sport is extremely difficult, it just does'nt take much athleticism. If you follow tennis at all you will know that Federer is CLEARLY the best tennis player of the last 7 years. Nobody comes even remotely close. Especially the last 4 or 5 years he is pretty much unstoppable. In tennis its just impossible to never get beaten, they compete so often. If Lance had a race every other week he would surely lose eventually. Federer's singles record last year was I think 80-5. Can you imagine if an NBA team went 77-5 or 78-4, people would be freaking out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    LOL...Lance isn't athletic? Which planet did u get that crack from? No crack on earth would make someone say something that dumb

    However, I do agree that Federer is an awesome athlete.
    Please don't come at me like that. You obviously know nothing about athletics, if you think Lance is one of the best athletes. Please tell me what about riding a bicycle is athletic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fbxdan
    It's Fedor Emelianenko IMHO. He participates in one of the toughest (if not the toughest) sport in the world, is one of the most dominant athletes around at the moment. A couple years ago I would have said Alexander Karelin. I believe he is one of the greatest athletes of the last century.
    I agree with you, to me its either Fedor or Federer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander
    Cycling just isn't athletic. What Lance did is amazing, but he is not really an athlete, it takes endurance only. Maybe Kobiashi is the best athlete, he completely dominates in food eating contests, I just don't consider him to be an athlete.
    I disagree with this. Cycling takes strength, endurance, coordination, determination, etc. just like any other sport. Personally, I think tennis is kinda gay, but I can recognize that atheletic skill is required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander
    Cycling just isn't athletic. What Lance did is amazing, but he is not really an athlete, it takes endurance only. Maybe Kobiashi is the best athlete, he completely dominates in food eating contests, I just don't consider him to be an athlete.

    LOL Ok so it isn't athletic and doesn't require skills like tennis. Let's put you on a bike with 4 sq inches in contact with the road going 30 + miles an hour over rain soaked coble stones in a pack of 75 riders and see how fast you go down when you are 'accidently' bumped and knocked into repeatedly.

    BTW I have played competitive tennis and raced road bikes and biking is 100% tougher and DOES require an immense amount of skill to ride in a 'straight line' while going through a hair pin turn at the bottlm of a hill going 40+ miles an hour with other riders literally inches from your elbows, knees and bike.

    On a side note to me bodybuilding is 200% tougher than than bike racing or triathlons because you have to watch what you eat basically almost 24/7. Force feeding to gain and then depriving yourself to cut up. With bike racing or triathlons the workout may be FAR more grueling and longer than a bodybuilding workout but once you do your workout you can eat ALMOST anything you want the other 16 hours of the day.


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    Just to be clear: Webster defines athlete as :: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina .

    I believe cycling requires these attributes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    Just to be clear: Webster defines athlete as :: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina .

    I believe cycling requires these attributes.
    I only see him having to use 1 of the 3, stamina. I mean it takes agility and strength to walk, just not much of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander
    I only see him having to use 1 of the 3, stamina. I mean it takes agility and strength to walk, just not much of it.
    Um..... just to ride a bike as a kid takes all 3. The general consesus among sports writers and the media is that he is AT LEAST in the top 3 athletes in the world and you're saying he's not even an athlete? All along arguing that a tennis player is the best athlete?
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    Crowler,
    The skills and athleticism Lance uses in cycling are a dime a dozen, its his heart and endurance that are unsurpassed. The skill and athleticism Federer uses in Tennis will be found nowhere else. I can't believe you guys think Lance is super athletic, maybe he is, but he does'nt show it by riding a bike for long distances.
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    Dime a dozen huh? Here ya go---

    By 1987, when he was sixteen, he was also winning bicycle races. That year, he was invited to the Cooper Institute, in Dallas, which was one of the first centers to recognize the relationship between fitness and aerobic conditioning. Everyone uses oxygen to break down food into the components that provide energy; the more oxygen you are able to use, the more energy you will produce, and the faster you can run, ride, or swim. Armstrong was given a test called the VO2 Max, which is commonly used to assess an athlete's aerobic ability: it measures the maximum amount of oxygen the lungs can consume during exercise. His levels were the highest ever recorded at the clinic. (Currently, they are about eighty-five millilitres per kilogram of body weight; a healthy man might have a VO2 Max of forty.)Chris Carmichael, who became his coach when Armstrong was still a teen-ager, told me that even then Armstrong was among the most remarkable athletes he had ever seen. Not only has his cardiovascular strength always been exceptional; his body seems specially constructed for cycling. His thigh bones are unusually long, for example, which permits him to apply just the right amount of torque to the pedals.

    That's from an article written about him by Michael Shector.

    P.S. - The dude also has only ONE BALL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    Um..... just to ride a bike as a kid takes all 3. The general consesus among sports writers and the media is that he is AT LEAST in the top 3 athletes in the world and you're saying he's not even an athlete? All along arguing that a tennis player is the best athlete?
    Yeah thats what I just said jokingly, that it takes all three just to walk, just not much of it. Who are these sports writers, they know not what they speak. Those sports writers are going by accomplishments, not true athleticism. They have to give him his respect, he has unbelievable accomplishments. The fact remains that cycling does not take much athleticism. Do you think marathon runners are athletic? I really hope not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander
    Yeah thats what I just said jokingly, that it takes all three just to walk, just not much of it. Who are these sports writers, they know not what they speak. Those sports writers are going by accomplishments, not true athleticism. They have to give him his respect, he has unbelievable accomplishments. The fact remains that cycling does not take much athleticism. Do you think marathon runners are athletic? I really hope not.
    No, you're right. The only athletes are ***s with pony tails wearing short shorts holding rackets wacking balls. Please, this is getting ridiculous.
    If he wasn't athletic, he would not have accomplished what he has. Thus Lance=Athlete.
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    youre telling me climbing those hills in france doesn't take strength?

    and going down them and around those sharp turns doesn't require agility?

    to quote you "You obviously know nothing about athletics" or cycling for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    Just to be clear: Webster defines athlete as :: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina .

    I believe cycling requires these attributes.
    I mean I feel I'm walking a fine line saying that a tennis player is the best athlete seeing as it does'nt require a ton of strength(140mph serve is somewhat strength), just more agility then any other sport and lots of stamina. Cycling does not require much strength or agility. Whoever said tennis is kinda gay, I'd really like to hear why. They don't where gay clothes, they don't look or act gay, now I can't say the same for cyclists. BTW have you seen tennis player wives, hottest chicks on earth. Watch the semis of the Aussie Open, all four of the dudes wives are ridiculous.
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    Not gay huh? Behold, I give you exhibit A!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    No, you're right. The only athletes are ***s with pony tails wearing short shorts holding rackets wacking balls. Please, this is getting ridiculus.
    If he wasn't athletic, he would not have accomplished what he has. Thus Lance=Athlete.
    You just said nothing, congrats. They don't wear short shorts, the pony tails are phasing out, and they were/are pretty gay. Holding rackets wacking balls, hopefully your son thought of that kindygarten insult. Have you seen these cyclists, one million times gayer then any tennis player, they where spandex, and little gay looking hats, to go along with there aerodynamic gay-gay shades. They also average about 140 lbs. Cycling is way gayer, but thats beside the point. If you think Lance is a great athlete thats cool, I guess I just can't comprehend riding a bike being that athletic, and I've been riding my whole life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer
    youre telling me climbing those hills in france doesn't take strength?

    and going down them and around those sharp turns doesn't require agility?

    to quote you "You obviously know nothing about athletics" or cycling for that matter.
    I feel there is a good chance most, not all, of the people in this thread saying cycling takes strenght and agility are piss poor athletes themselves. And no, I don't think riding a bike up a hill takes strength, or going around a sharp turn takes agility. Hell no. Just about anyone could ride up those hills and around the turns, its just that everyone would gas before Lance. Now I'd really like to see your average joe try to hit around with Federer.
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    Look, I was joking around in response to your lance is not an athlete argument, which is as ludricrous as saying all tennis players are gay. That was my point. You may have been riding a bike since you were a kid, but not at an elite level, which is different and requires different skills. Alot of guys have been playing tennis since they were kids. By your logic that makes them on par with Federer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander
    I feel there is a good chance most, not all, of the people in this thread saying cycling takes strenght and agility are piss poor athletes themselves. And no, I don't think riding a bike up a hill takes strength, or going around a sharp turn takes agility. Hell no. Just about anyone could ride up those hills and around the turns, its just that everyone would gas before Lance. Now I'd really like to see your average joe try to hit around with Federer.
    So how is the weather in Bizarro world?
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    Please be honest with yourselves. You could rationalize that anything takes SOME amount of athleticism, but cycling is just an endurance sport, period. Oh someone has neg repped me, and that hurts me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    Look, I was joking around in response to your lance is not an athlete argument, which is as ludricrous as saying all tennis players are gay. That was my point. You may have been riding a bike since you were a kid, but not at an elite level, which is different and requires different skills. Alot of guys have been playing tennis since they were kids. By your logic that makes them on par with Federer?
    I don't think Lance is not an athlete, hes just not even remotely close to being one of the top athletes. I did'nt say I rode at an elite level, I'm just saying I have a pretty damn good idea what cycling is about, I do. As well as a pretty good idea of what tennis is about(played throughout HS, won states twice). I was'nt saying I'm on par with Lance at all, I was saying I know what the sport entails. So not really a good comparison.
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    Michael Johnson...
    he worked his ass off, but had amazing talent to go with it. (holds 400 record and 200) the 200 record 19.32 and a 400 of 43.18....i wish i could have seen these races. No other sprinter has done well in both the 400 and 200 like he has...


    i think lance is amazing. he has 0! fast twitch fibers (which helps endurence) but he has worked his butt off like no other, and has, in my mind been blessed. he was not Always that great. but than again no one is when they start something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    So how is the weather in Bizarro world?
    Its not bad, whats it like living in fantasyland where Lance Armstrong is the best athlete, and 5 time marathon runner bogatu modishu is a close second(marathon guy is fictional). The sport is just too one dimensional to have the best athlete come out of it.
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    "I don't think Lance is not an athlete, hes just not even remotely close to being one of the top athletes. I did'nt say I rode at an elite level, I'm just saying I have a pretty damn good idea what cycling is about, I do. As well as a pretty good idea of what tennis is about(played throughout HS, won states twice). I was'nt saying I'm on par with Lance at all, I was saying I know what the sport entails. So not really a good comparison."


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    I feel there is a good chance most, not all, of the people in this thread saying cycling takes strenght and agility are piss poor athletes themselves. And no, I don't think riding a bike up a hill takes strength, or going around a sharp turn takes agility. Hell no. Just about anyone could ride up those hills and around the turns, its just that everyone would gas before Lance. Now I'd really like to see your average joe try to hit around with Federer.
    You did say this b.s. above correct? You're just contradicting yourself over and over. I'm done with this. Besides I'm sure you probably have to polish your high school state champ trophies.
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    tj duckett is the best athlete in the world - if you say otherwise then u soft



    actually I think Julius Peppers might be the best in the world.. I know, hes not even the best at his sport or position but he'd beat Lance Armstrong in basketball. otherwise I'll take Lance as best athlete - he's pretty good at cycling

    lance is the best in his sport, whether he's a true athlete well thats up to you..
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    T.J. Duckett could not hit around Federer, he can't be the best athlete.
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    mariuz pudzianowski (Spelling?) Just to diver attention from lance and federer
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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhatgifted
    mariuz pudzianowski (Spelling?) Just to diver attention from lance and federer
    Yeah he is an absolute freak! Definitely dominating his sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead
    T.J. Duckett could not hit around Federer, he can't be the best athlete.
    hahah Duckett playing tennis
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    Hey 400runner I see you reading this thread. I would have to say if biking takes no skills or athleticism then heck running the 400 has to be even easier and running the 800 pft you can call that one in via cel phone I mean come on all you are doing is running. BWAHAHAHAHA j/k but am trying to make a point.

    Well I guess Alexander knows better than the rest of us AND the Associated Press AND ESPN they too are confused what it mens to be an athlete

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    Heck Federer isn't even the best tennis player ever how the heck can he be the best overall athlete lol


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    YOu do make a good point, Has anyone heard of joe eigo hes CRAZY, check it out not athlete of the year tho sry.

    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER
    Hey 400runner I see you reading this thread. I would have to say if biking takes no skills or athleticism then heck running the 400 has to be even easier and running the 800 pft you can call that one in via cel phone I mean come on all you are doing is running. BWAHAHAHAHA j/k but am trying to make a point.

    Well I guess Alexander knows better than the rest of us AND the Associated Press AND ESPN they too are confused what it mens to be an athlete

    Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year for 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2005
    ESPN's ESPY Award for Best Male Athlete in 2003, 2004, and 2005

    Heck Federer isn't even the best tennis player ever how the heck can he be the best overall athlete lol


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