Speed, Strength, Endurance, and Agility. Wrestlers are very athletic, they possess all of those qualities. I just really don't think cycling requires much of the first 3, just lots of endurance. You've got to draw the line somewhere, do you think Marathon runners are athletic?
but but at that same time, Roger Federer isn't stuffing TJ Duckett on the goalline or beating him in a 40yard sprint. Federer can't bench 185 for 1 but duckett could do that for 40 I'd guess. it's really not comparable - although it's a highly funny comparsion..
by definition that is correct.
Hell yeah bro, that man is unstoppable.
All those guys you listed minus Mcnabb might be better athletes then Federer. Federer has so much on them skillwise, but they're all definitely much stronger, and faster. Bo Jackson IMO probably the most talented athlete ever, but an underachiever. Julius Peppers is an incredible athlete as well. IMO most people are tremendous followers, and see Lance winning ESPY awards for being the best athlete, so they assume he must be the best athlete. To me those awards don't mean much. I mean Eminem wins rapper of the year by the most credible rap magazine(source), do you think that makes him the best rapper in the world? Hell no. Think for yourself. He's so far from being the best rapper, not even close to the top 10. I guarantee most of the people that think Lance is the best athlete also would've thought the world was flat. There are plenty of guys out their that might be better athletes then Federer, I just think its funny that you guys picked a guy who is pretty much strictly endurance to be the best athlete. Sorry to post this all on your quote Deoudes it is not directed at you.but but at that same time, Roger Federer isn't stuffing TJ Duckett on the goalline or beating him in a 40yard sprint. Federer can't bench 185 for 1 but duckett could do that for 40 I'd guess. it's really not comparable - although it's a highly funny comparsion..
When we talk about the 'best athlete' in the NFL - I'm saying it's more impressive for Julius Peppers (6-6 290lbs guy) to run 40yards in 4.42seconds than Michael Vick (6-1 205lbs guy) to run it in 4.31. A lot of people straight up disagree with me here - and that's fine.
If speed on a track or record on a tennis court is the only measuring stick for being a good athlete than a lot of big names are off the list. I'm taking Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson, Reggie Bush and Donovan McNabb over Roger Federer.. call me crazy
By definition:
An athlete is a person possessing above average physical skills (strength, agility, and endurance) and thus seen suitable for physical activities, in particular, contests.
Oh, thanks for filling me in, great joke too. No **** its a joke, a joke that was intended to mock me, when I never said anything to imply anything close to that. Glad your banging your head on the wall, must be a real pain in the ass to deal with someone with an opinion of their own, who makes sense, and will call you on your BS attempts to insult. I mean its not really a bid deal, I just thought I'd call you on it, it was an attempted cheap shot that did'nt make sense because I never said you'd have to be able to hit around with Federer in order to be the best athlete. You may not have intended to imply, but you implied. Now that I've had time to seriously think about it, Federer probably isn't the best athlete, but he is WAY higher up on the list then Lance. Just face it riding a bike is pretty cake, does'nt take a ton of talent, just a ton of endurance. Nobody's answered my Marathon runner question, hmmmm?
Hey genius, that joke wasn't even directed at you. You're entitled to your opinion, noone ever questioned that. You on the other hand has repeatedly argued with anyone even suggesting that lance is indeed an athlete, which is flat out stupid. It's a sport, he's an athlete, get over it. Or maybe the general population is stupid and you am smart. The way you're pimpin federer so hard, I hope that bitch has yo money. Either way, this is pointless and I'm done with it. Peace.
Dude, seriously golf is a sport it does'nt mean that they're athletic. Plus I never said he was'nt an athlete, I just said he's not close to being one of the top athletes. That is not flat out stupid, its logical. And it is quite possible that the gen pop is stupid and that I am smart. And your right I do sweat Federer, probably never seen anyone as skilled as he is.
I guess you did'nt understand what I was saying either. It was obviously a joke, one in which he was implying that I said you'd have to be able to hit around with Federer in order to be the best athlete, which I never said or implied. Trying to make me look stupid(leaving myself wide open with that). Just calling him on some BS.haha don't worry.. I knew that anyway
it's all good
I did'nt say he was'nt an athlete, I said he was'nt REALLY an athlete. I know, its getting bad. I did contradict myself a bit their. I do think he is an athlete, but not that much of one. To me endurance sports are not very athletic for the most part. I've been saying basically the same thing throughout the thread, that he is an athlete, but not a top athlete. I do feel that I am bad at debating, and get way too aggressive, which rightfully leads to people getting pissed at me. I have a "I know I'm right" vibe about me that I will have to work on. Peace.
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Neg rep me and tell me to eat doo-doo all you want. Just have a good reason for it. Lance is a fierce warrior, just not an extremely athletic one. If the thread were who's the greatest sportsman or something then maybe he should win. He can't jump high, run fast, lift explosively, etc compared to the top athletes out their. To add to that I don't see how he's very skilled either. I hold firm to my belief that most people that think Lance is the best athlete, are not good athletes themselves. Personally, I am fast, strong, skilled, have excellent balance, and its a slap in the face to say someone that is riding a bike, that does'nt take much of any of those is the best athlete in the world. Now jump off the bandwagon and take my points away joker. Its really unbelievable to me that not a single sole has sided with me on this, I guess thats what I get for posting on a bodybuilding site. Please answer this: Do you think bodybuilding or marathon running is extremely athletic?
I may be stubborn, but not bright, nah. You think cause he can ride a bike 50mph that makes him fast, negro please. Speed is measured in a 40 or 100 yard dash, not going down a hill on a ten speed. You think Lance could run a 40 fast, extremely doubtful. Yeah I've ridden up many steep hills, sure it takes a little strength, but mainly endurance. Cyclists weigh 140 pounds, you really think they have any type of strength? Balance you're right about. It takes a decent amount of balance to take those corners, but IMO a lot of other sports take far more balance. For skill, you did'nt say anything. I mean I understand it takes some type of skill to ride, but seriously not much. Do you really think it takes as much skill to ride a bike as it does to return a 140mph serve with crazy spin on it. I just don't see how. I'm not trying to stir up ****, just trying to speak the truth. Cycling is a sport people with less skill take up. They don't have the skill for B-ball, Football, Tennis, Soccer so they ride a bike cause almost anyone can do that decently. And for AFOX what do you mean when you start ripping other sports is when you cross the line? So every sport is considered to be equal, thats just loser talk. Of course some sports are easier then others, some take more of this, some take more of that. I understand damn well that cycling is very difficult and takes a lot of heart, just not a ton of athleticism. Do you think a marathon runner has similar athleticism to a basketball player? What I'm saying is really not ridiculous at all, its just not the mainstream thought I guess.
I'm sorry, I'm not aware of this guy.
You're exactly right. I know Lance is dominant and a badass, just not that athletic. Yeah Karelin was a freak of nature, I can't believe he lost to Rulon. I can't imagine him having as good stand-up as Fedor, but it probably would'nt matter. He'd be able to get Fedor down and control him. Like you said, we will never know. I'd love to see Rulon come back to Pride, and have Fedor redeem his countryman. Thank you for your post.
No need to be sorry Fox. Because you sound so sure of yourself and call it a joke, I take it you speak from experience. So what sort of triathlons have you completed Sprint, Olympic, 1/2, full ??? Or is it competitive bike racing you have done so you can compare the two??? What sort of bike racing track, road, crit???
Oh my god
Just admit he lost. He would beat Rulon 999 times out of 1000, but he did lose. Anyways you're probably right about him being able to develop good stand-up, guy had so many talents. I read that he was an amazing Volleyball and Tennis player, thats hard to do at 270 pounds. I need to get some footage of him. I've only seen short clips of him, which were very impressive.
I dont know if Alexander the Great was the greatest athlete of all time, but I've played against and with Top Offensive linemen and Defensive Tackles that were 290 pounds, and very few glide on the balls of their feet as they walk and look like featured extras off the movie Underworld Evolution . Guy definetly got my attention and respect when I saw him.
Troy Polamalu Safety for the Steelers. He dominates the field.
I agree, there are exceptions, but for the most part it would be ridiculous to call baseball players as athletic as football players.
Tough to argue with that, I certainly wouldn't.
I was offered several D1 football scholarships outta high school for football but.....I choose baseball over football. I mean im good @ baseball. I'm looking at getting drafted this spring but.....I must say a good Baseball player is more athletic that a good football player.
This is a hard subject to argue, as its all in your opinion of what athletic is, and how much emphasis you put on each category. To me, athleticism is speed, strength, endurance, and agility, but there should certainly be other criteria like reflexes, intelligence, and lots of other stuff that I'm leaving out that makes an athlete. Baseball players are very skilled, but with the exception of a handfull I don't see them being that athletic.
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