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  1. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Are you talking about Epi-V? or Epistane? Have you been doing Deadlifts?
    EPI-v....I did DB deadlifts 4 sets of 10 with 65's. Real light just to hit them quick. This was Monday so it can't be that.

    Drying out makes sense bc I have dropped 3-4 lbs in less then a week and I forgot Epi is a cutter and pulls out water.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball

    EPI-v....I did DB deadlifts 4 sets of 10 with 65's. Real light just to hit them quick. This was Monday so it can't be that.

    Drying out makes sense bc I have dropped 3-4 lbs in less then a week and I forgot Epi is a cutter and pulls out water.
    That would be my guess with Epi-V. I can't say I had any joint problems on cycle though. What support supplements are you taking? Try some omega fatty acids or some super cissus...lube them joints up.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    That would be my guess with Epi-V. I can't say I had any joint problems on cycle though. What support supplements are you taking? Try some omega fatty acids or some super cissus...lube them joints up.
    I am and have been on a high amount of fish oil, D3, multivitamin, and PCT black every night. I have not had any other feelings of drying out besides in this location. Knees are sometimes achy but not bad at all.

    I will have to look into super cissus. Interested what Doc recommends. Thanks guys

  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball

    I am and have been on a high amount of fish oil, D3, multivitamin, and PCT black every night. I have not had any other feelings of drying out besides in this location. Knees are sometimes achy but not bad at all.

    I will have to look into super cissus. Interested what Doc recommends. Thanks guys
    Seems like you have a good support base. I'm interested to see what Doc says as well!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443

  5. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    That would be my guess with Epi-V. I can't say I had any joint problems on cycle though. What support supplements are you taking? Try some omega fatty acids or some super cissus...lube them joints up.
    Agreed... Omega 3-6-9's, MSM, Chondroitin, Glucosamine, & Super Cissus. All incredible for joint aid, assist, and ease!!!

    Unfortunately it is the name of the game here... to get one positive effect, you risk getting a negative or having to take multiple preventative measures to prevent the negative all in order to get the positive, that and with everyone being similar, but different, it is a constant experiment to find what works best for you!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Agreed... Omega 3-6-9's, MSM, Chondroitin, Glucosamine, & Super Cissus. All incredible for joint aid, assist, and ease!!!

    Unfortunately it is the name of the game here... to get one positive effect, you risk getting a negative or having to take multiple preventative measures to prevent the negative all in order to get the positive, that and with everyone being similar, but different, it is a constant experiment to find what works best for you!
    Thanks. I will buy some MSM/Chondroiton/Glucosamine. I took it while playing ball but have not taken it in 2-3 years. I will get back on it. Also will add super cissus.

    Yes this negative is alot less severe and not something I am extremely worried about. More of a nuisance/slight pain then anything.

    Thanks Doc

  7. I'm just glad I could help you man, never a bother, always a pleasure! I wish they had this kind of stuff around (Internet.. Google.. Forums) when I was in high school and college! I mean the information out there is vast and so easy to access compared to when I was younger, our younger generations are extremely lucky and they don't even realize just how lucky!!!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc
    I'm just glad I could help you man, never a bother, always a pleasure! I wish they had this kind of stuff around (Internet.. Google.. Forums) when I was in high school and college! I mean the information out there is vast and so easy to access compared to when I was younger, our younger generations are extremely lucky and they don't even realize just how lucky!!!
    Not only do they not realize how lucky they are, but they are damn ungrateful as well...as the bell rings to bring in a new wave of "wonderful" students to teach...I mean babysit.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443

  9. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Not only do they not realize how lucky they are, but they are damn ungrateful as well...as the bell rings to bring in a new wave of "wonderful" students to teach...I mean babysit.
    I don't think you are referring to me but maybe you are?

    Funny because I am a teacher also. Very true and sad how some students are nowadays

  10. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    Not only do they not realize how lucky they are, but they are damn ungrateful as well...as the bell rings to bring in a new wave of "wonderful" students to teach...I mean babysit.
    I feel your pain and I swear I think all teachers are severely, severely underpaid, to put up with what they do! I mean you have to put up with their behavior, then how it disrupts the class, then get the class back on track and do an already hard enough job of teaching these numbskulls that are not willing to open a book and read it, or study or just understand that you need a base of knowledge in which to add to, kind of like a person who trains upper body but not legs, no base and sooner or later it will crumble or can grow no further/higher! Oh wait, then ya gotta deal with the parents of these kids... "My child is an Angel! Why aren't you teaching my child? Your tests/questions are too hard!" All boiling down to what Kleen and a whole bunch of us others have been screaming about on this forum for a while now... "The Pussification of America"
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball View Post
    anybody know why my lower back is super tight/hurting while on EPI...taking 5 pills a day and its right above my butt in the middle
    You're experiencing back pumps, taurine will help combat them if you pick some up.
    I hope everybody thinks i'm crazy, because you cannot be a sane person and go through the type of pain i am willing to put myself through to be where i want to be, Once I completely win the war between my mind and body, my reign will begin. ~Me

  12. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball View Post
    I don't think you are referring to me but maybe you are?

    Funny because I am a teacher also. Very true and sad how some students are nowadays
    Noooo Matt, I am not referring to you, I honestly do not know you well enough to ever make that kind of judgement, I'm just piping in my own little Beatch Rant about society as a whole really!!!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I feel your pain and I swear I think all teachers are severely, severely underpaid, to put up with what they do! I mean you have to put up with their behavior, then how it disrupts the class, then get the class back on track and do an already hard enough job of teaching these numbskulls that are not willing to open a book and read it, or study or just understand that you need a base of knowledge in which to add to, kind of like a person who trains upper body but not legs, no base and sooner or later it will crumble or can grow no further/higher! Oh wait, then ya gotta deal with the parents of these kids... "My child is an Angel! Why aren't you teaching my child? Your tests/questions are too hard!" All boiling down to what Kleen and a whole bunch of us others have been screaming about on this forum for a while now... "The Pussification of America"
    Totally agreed. you nailed it on the head brother!!!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by thetinyguy View Post
    You're experiencing back pumps, taurine will help combat them if you pick some up.
    I thought about that as I have heard of that before. Does seem to come on stronger after taking Epi pills.

    Doc where do back pumps usually occur?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by thetinyguy View Post
    You're experiencing back pumps, taurine will help combat them if you pick some up.
    I know what back pumps are and I never experienced any back pumps with EPI-V, but if it is "Back Pumps" as Tiny is suggesting, he is 100% right, Taurine is your friend (5-10g/day) depending on severity!

    I decipher the difference between back pumps and LBP (low back pain) as back pumps only happen while in the gym and may last for like an hour or so after, but minus that are not a constant thing. While LBP is constant, oh it may be worse while lifting (aggravated), but will always have at least a slight presence!

    Ya know, I'm not 100% sure where Morry (fellow member of the forum) got it from, but when I was experiencing back pumps it just so happened he was too and we split either a kilo or 2 kilo's of pure taurine powder, some bulk place he knew about and it was only like $20-30 a piece, so it is definitely cheap enough to buy and just have on hand, because there are tons of hormones and prohormones out there that will cause back pumps, so it is worth a try to see if it helps!

    Good call Tiny!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I know what back pumps are and I never experienced any back pumps with EPI-V, but if it is "Back Pumps" as Tiny is suggesting, he is 100% right, Taurine is your friend (5-10g/day) depending on severity!

    I decipher the difference between back pumps and LBP (low back pain) as back pumps only happen while in the gym and may last for like an hour or so after, but minus that are not a constant thing. While LBP is constant, oh it may be worse while lifting (aggravated), but will always have at least a slight presence!

    Ya know, I'm not 100% sure where Morry (fellow member of the forum) got it from, but when I was experiencing back pumps it just so happened he was too and we split either a kilo or 2 kilo's of pure taurine powder, some bulk place he knew about and it was only like $20-30 a piece, so it is definitely cheap enough to buy and just have on hand, because there are tons of hormones and prohormones out there that will cause back pumps, so it is worth a try to see if it helps!

    Good call Tiny!



    The Doc. has spoken!
    I hope everybody thinks i'm crazy, because you cannot be a sane person and go through the type of pain i am willing to put myself through to be where i want to be, Once I completely win the war between my mind and body, my reign will begin. ~Me

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    I know what back pumps are and I never experienced any back pumps with EPI-V, but if it is "Back Pumps" as Tiny is suggesting, he is 100% right, Taurine is your friend (5-10g/day) depending on severity!

    I decipher the difference between back pumps and LBP (low back pain) as back pumps only happen while in the gym and may last for like an hour or so after, but minus that are not a constant thing. While LBP is constant, oh it may be worse while lifting (aggravated), but will always have at least a slight presence!

    Ya know, I'm not 100% sure where Morry (fellow member of the forum) got it from, but when I was experiencing back pumps it just so happened he was too and we split either a kilo or 2 kilo's of pure taurine powder, some bulk place he knew about and it was only like $20-30 a piece, so it is definitely cheap enough to buy and just have on hand, because there are tons of hormones and prohormones out there that will cause back pumps, so it is worth a try to see if it helps!

    Good call Tiny!
    Good explanation. This is not back pumps then. This is a constant low grade pain and gets irritated/barks at me when I use wrong form or bend over a certain way.

    Definitely not a pulled muslce tho....I am 100% it is "drying out". I can handle this tho and I like how it makes me feel and I am cutting up
    Thanks guys

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball View Post
    I thought about that as I have heard of that before. Does seem to come on stronger after taking Epi pills.

    Doc where do back pumps usually occur?
    Since you asked specifically... it is another difference between LBP and Back Pumps... when I have experienced LBP, I can usually pin-point it to the small of my back, but when it is back pumps, it is more global, and just overall achey, hard to explain actually, but I can definitely feel a distinct difference, I wish Morry was here, he could probably explain the difference in just a few words, he is the one that actually made me realize there was a difference and once I made the realization, it was like a breath of fresh air to me!!!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball

    I don't think you are referring to me but maybe you are?

    Funny because I am a teacher also. Very true and sad how some students are nowadays
    No Matt! God No!! I was referring to my wonderful students.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc

    Since you asked specifically... it is another difference between LBP and Back Pumps... when I have experienced LBP, I can usually pin-point it to the small of my back, but when it is back pumps, it is more global, and just overall achey, hard to explain actually, but I can definitely feel a distinct difference, I wish Morry was here, he could probably explain the difference in just a few words, he is the one that actually made me realize there was a difference and once I made the realization, it was like a breath of fresh air to me!!!
    Thank you for spelling this out. I usually have to explain this to at least 1 patient per shift. We look at muscle pain versus true spinal pain, mechanism of injury, what aggravates/relieves the pain, so on. An injured muscle, be it torn or strained/sprained, will usually be a pinpoint pain in a muscle body, whereas the "back pumps" described here involve large amounts of muscle/groups of muscles. Annnd if you managed to herniate/bulge a disc, well you are going to have all kinds of special pain, depending on the what/where/how. Sorry had to chip in my two cents
    Life is cold, short, and brutal
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by sae2110 View Post
    Thank you for spelling this out. I usually have to explain this to at least 1 patient per shift. We look at muscle pain versus true spinal pain, mechanism of injury, what aggravates/relieves the pain, so on. An injured muscle, be it torn or strained/sprained, will usually be a pinpoint pain in a muscle body, whereas the "back pumps" described here involve large amounts of muscle/groups of muscles. Annnd if you managed to herniate/bulge a disc, well you are going to have all kinds of special pain, depending on the what/where/how. Sorry had to chip in my two cents
    I am a Chiropractor, what is your specialty... Orthopedics?
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    No Matt! God No!! I was referring to my wonderful students.
    Haha that is what I figured. What do you teach and where? I am in Houston area.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by TurningGreen View Post
    No Matt! God No!! I was referring to my wonderful students.
    One more rant on this and I'm done, I swear... Quoting Matt here... "Very true and sad how some students are nowadays " It is ultimately the parents fault... 99.9% of the time!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc

    I am a Chiropractor, what is your specialty... Orthopedics?
    ER nurse. In my area, there are problems with access to affordable healthcare and with drug-seeking patients (we are tops in the nation for prescription drug related vehicular deaths!!), so I see a lot of back pain patients who ought to go see someone like you Scott
    Life is cold, short, and brutal
    Training log -
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/207211-sae2110s-training-log.html

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball

    Haha that is what I figured. What do you teach and where? I am in Houston area.
    I'm am currently a high school visual arts teacher in North Carolina (right outside of Raleigh). I'll be applying to a near by fire department in the next couple of weeks. I have honestly just had enough of the students and the politics which allow for their actions. I figure working for the FD will be exciting and I can can utilize all the hard work I put in at the gym. Also I will make more money in my first year of working for the FD than I will entering my 6th year of teaching as we are on a wage freeze and I'm still making first year teacher pay...what a reputable position lol!!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/252210-greens-climb-top.html#post4548443
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