CK/Anabolic Diet mega thread
- 08-22-2008, 02:27 PM
- 08-22-2008, 03:49 PM
08-22-2008, 03:57 PM
08-22-2008, 04:04 PM
eh, botch. thanks for the answer on that question. i'm only on day 2 of this thing. gonna do my adapting at the 10 day level. WHOO! everything is in place. i took care of training first. set up diet next. now supplementation is set. it's on. might even log all this.
08-22-2008, 05:17 PM
I'm about to go to the grocery store and then go do a depletion workout. I need food ideas! Here's what I've got planned ( I know I should have planned out more)
-2 loaf White bread
- 2-3 box sugary cereals!
-1 tub gatorade powder
- big jug soda, juice etc
- 10-12 cups white rice
- 2 # white pasta
I'll eat all of this within the carb period. Additions appreciated!
08-22-2008, 06:43 PM
200 carbs gatorade powder, 200g carbs white rice, and the rest would be in assorted amounts of white/sweet potato mash, brown rice, mixed veggies/corn.
but man, you're all about them simple carbs. i'll likely just use my simples after depletion on fridays. that's where the 200g carbs gatorade comes in. and then two meals following will have about 3 cups white rice in each. the next day'll be more complex carbs.
my training is a three day split, a slightly altered version of "westside for skinny bastards" (the difference being that friday is not just an upper body repetition workout. it's a full body (threw in 3x40 weighted lunges and quad/ham curl superset of 2x15). and the reps are upped a few on some exercises).
this sound ok to y'all? i hope that this works out. it should. from reading up on smarter peoples' outlooks on this stuff, this seems to be a good protocol, diet/training-wise. there is one thing i am REALLY unsure of, though. and that is CARDIO. i planned to walk three days a week for an hour briskly. what do you all think of that? or should i indeed do a bit of running? i know the goal is to be glycogen-depleted. but just how fast will the occur with running? see, i don't quite know how fast it will occur if i lift AND run. is it necessary?
08-22-2008, 06:46 PM
08-22-2008, 06:47 PM
08-22-2008, 06:52 PM
08-22-2008, 06:54 PM
08-22-2008, 06:55 PM
08-22-2008, 07:02 PM
Cardio is something that could be debated forever. I personally don't do it on this diet and like to save my glycogen stores for lifting. I've definately been an avid cardio goer in the past and on this diet I have run into problems by doing HIIT cardio 3x per week. It would leave a burning sensation in my legs just walking for the rest of the week. And my lowerbody workouts would suffer from it. But if you're a fan of cardio then more power to you. If I were to do cardio I would go with the brisk walk 3x per week on this diet rather than running which will surely be tapping into your glycogen stores.
08-22-2008, 07:06 PM
08-22-2008, 07:07 PM
08-22-2008, 07:07 PM
08-22-2008, 07:10 PM
08-22-2008, 07:40 PM
For ME, i need to keep protein high.. My strength continues to climb, and i have been steady dropping BF.
At first i had to play around with the ratios of Pro/fat, i tried keeping fats at 60-70% but strength was suffering, and weight loss was pretty stagnant.
When protein got upped, total cals stayed the same, then fat started coming off, while strength slowly but surely climbed. I have been taking it nice and slow though.
Normally at this point, on a carb based "calorie restricted" diet, i feel like TOTAL ****.. I drag ass in the gym, strength goes in the toilet, and i feel like hell all day. Right now, i feel GREAT.
Like botch said, it is very individual. Play around with your macros, food selection, etc.
08-22-2008, 07:52 PM
Hey bro I was wondering when you were going to make an appearance around here!
Man, all this pizza talk is making me hungry. Luckily there is a pizza joint less than a block from my apartment. Damnit, why do they have to make it so easy for me to cheat?!?!
08-22-2008, 08:29 PM
So let's take a vote. Who thinks I should try and keep my cals the same during carb up and who thinks I should just scarf? I'm trying to cut fyi
08-22-2008, 08:53 PM
I wouldn't say just "scarf" but either do a protocol similar to the "duchane" one, or slam the carbs heavy, paying attention to the fats.
I had been doing the duchane way, but the last couple of months, i just go VERY heavy on the carbs, and keep fat low.
08-22-2008, 09:01 PM
I'm doing CKD with IF, question is, I limit my carbs to 20-30 grams a day, do they have to be from "good sources" fruits/vegetables?
I only eat meat and eggs as I hate vegetables, so can I add some crackers or some junk as long as it doesn't exceed 20-30 grams a day?
08-22-2008, 09:03 PM
08-22-2008, 09:07 PM
08-22-2008, 09:10 PM
i'm going for 900g carbs, as that was the amount suggested through "the equation." i'll adjust from there after a few weeks if i need to.
08-22-2008, 09:43 PM
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