Yeah on Oct 1. We should have at least 10 people starting an 8 week gains competition. Everyone is gonna use stacks of products that they support, or have wanted to try. The main goal is for everyone to motivate each other to go as hard as they can, through friendly competition, encouragement, and comradery. Scoring is still semi up in the air, but I think with just a couple impartial judges and votes maybe from thread subscribers, we can pick some winners. I just think it would add to the excitement if some companies "flew their flag" on a competitor. I believe Ageforce is going to sponsor a competitor. Truly this is for fun, but speaking for myself someone who takes fitness very seriously, I don't compete in bodybuilding or powerlifting but still yearn to be competetive in something I enjoy so much. I hope this gives you a little better idea of what were trying to do ITT. There will be other competitions too, like teams, cutting, etc. or anything someone wants to do and can find somebody to square off with. It's kinda like a lifting arena.