Halodrol Cycle

**DreamWeaver** · 01-25-2006, 04:24 PM

Got my Halodrol will be starting it this weekend.

I got 3 bottles of Pro Liver and I plan on taking 9 caps a day starting tomorrow right through my PCT. I have plenty of fish and flax oil on hand as well.

My PCT is simply NHA with 200 grams of DHEA a day.

**delta314** · 01-25-2006, 04:26 PM

Wouldn't Nolvadex XT be a good choice for PCT? It's what Gaspari recomends.

Jameson · 01-25-2006, 04:41 PM

I would politely suggest to both of you that you do a little more research on PCT protocols before starting a cycle. You will find a lot of conflicting information (not to mention some very bitter arguments), but it is best that you know what you are getting into.

Gaspari's *Novedex XT* is NOT the same thing as Nolva (tamoxifen) which is a SERM. Novedex XT is ATD and you may want to think twice before running an ATD only PCT. But it will depend on what you are using and how long. In any case, it's important that you have at least a basic understanding of these things, confusing as they may be, so that you don't get into any trouble you might have been able to avoid (search for rebound gyno for an example).

**DreamWeaver** · 01-25-2006, 04:56 PM

Well I allready had the NHA stack and I have read logs where it worked very well for others. I have done one heck of a lot of reading and this seems to me the most sensible way to go. I am of course open to suggestion.

Jameson · 01-25-2006, 05:09 PM

I'll be interested to hear how it goes. I'll be doing Halodrol in the spring time too. I'm using Nolva right now for PCT. Last time I went with ATD and had no problems, but after reading through all the debates here and at BB.com with Dr.D, PA, Big Cat and the rest of them, I decided that I would stick with the Nolva this time. How are you dosing the Halodrol?

**DreamWeaver** · 01-25-2006, 05:15 PM

I read the debate, I don't know what way to go really, but people have had good success with ATD it seems so...

I am just going to take 1 tab early in the morning run it for 30 days. Apparently that's all you need. There are some pretty good logs. Most people are reporting very little sides.

**delta314** · 01-27-2006, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameson

I would politely suggest to both of you that you do a little more research on PCT protocols before starting a cycle. You will find a lot of conflicting information (not to mention some very bitter arguments), but it is best that you know what you are getting into.

Gaspari's *Novedex XT* is NOT the same thing as Nolva (tamoxifen) which is a SERM. Novedex XT is ATD and you may want to think twice before running an ATD only PCT. But it will depend on what you are using and how long. In any case, it's important that you have at least a basic understanding of these things, confusing as they may be, so that you don't get into any trouble you might have been able to avoid (search for rebound gyno for an example).

H-50 does not aromatize, and has anti-estrogenic/anti-progestenic effects. Why would you need a SERM for it?

**DreamWeaver** · 01-27-2006, 06:12 PM

Yes that what I was thinking too, from what I've read I believe my PCT is pretty solid. The only conern I have is my liver and I ordered another 3 bottles of Liver Pro to add to my first 3. I'm open to suggestion like I said but I did do my homework to the best of my ability.

**swole210** · 01-27-2006, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delta314

Wouldn't Nolvadex XT be a good choice for PCT? It's what Gaspari recomends.

Novadex is ATD! ATD is one component of NHA.

**DreamWeaver** · 01-27-2006, 06:18 PM

Yes I was aware of that.

**delta314** · 01-27-2006, 06:18 PM

I would get a blood test before and after the cycle. I'm planning on doing a Halodrol cycle around April or May. I'm reading as many logs as I can to learn as much as possible before hand.

**swole210** · 01-27-2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameson

I would politely suggest to both of you that you do a little more research on PCT protocols before starting a cycle. You will find a lot of conflicting information (not to mention some very bitter arguments), but it is best that you know what you are getting into.

Gaspari's *Novedex XT* is NOT the same thing as Nolva (tamoxifen) which is a SERM. Novedex XT is ATD and you may want to think twice before running an ATD only PCT. But it will depend on what you are using and how long. In any case, it's important that you have at least a basic understanding of these things, confusing as they may be, so that you don't get into any trouble you might have been able to avoid (search for rebound gyno for an example).

Indeed Nolva is a very good Pct product. I have never used it myself, but from the literature, and the plethora of people who have used it, it is a wise choice. Serms and Atd I beleive have their places in a good PCT. Dream weaver will not be running an ATD ONLY cycle, as the NHA stack also incorporates ActivaTe. I am not sure if it also incorporates Lean Extreme, but adding this product to a Pct protocol would also be a wise decision. I also read the debate, and actually asked Big Cat a question, to which he came out and wished death on Dr.D! As such, the thread was locked , which I wish it hadn't so we could hear all the sides of this argument. I was confused by this thread as well, but you cannot deny the many, many succesful Pct's using Atd along with other ancilliaries that have been run by many people on this board, including myself. So to say that Atd is not a wise choice, is not a wise choice of words! As with everything in life, there are going to be conflicting points of views, and conflicting arguments and beliefs. There are different paths to get to get to a certain goal, so there could be more than one right way in my opinion. Ahyhow, I am getting a little of topic here, but to make a long story short, Dreamweaver, I beleive the Pct protocol you have is pretty solid for you. H-50 did not seem to shut me down that bad, so you should be back up and running soon afterwards. Keep it simple, or you will find yourself very confused, and with no pct protocol.

**swole210** · 01-27-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by delta314

I would get a blood test before and after the cycle. I'm planning on doing a Halodrol cycle around April or May. I'm reading as many logs as I can to learn as much as possible before hand.

Allways a wise decision!

**DreamWeaver** · 01-27-2006, 06:37 PM

Yes it does include the lean extreme. It's all the complications with PCT that made me decide on something less suppresive, I did a lot of reading and if I were going to do something a little harsher I would probably have gone with Dr. D's PCT suggestions invloving SERM and decreasing dosages.

Thanks for your input.

**DreamWeaver** · 01-27-2006, 06:39 PM

Yah I'm working away from home or maybe I would.