- 02-05-2006, 10:04 AM
Originally Posted by Pax
Halodrol-50 : active ingredient revealedGive a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
- 02-06-2006, 11:55 AM
lol.. soon as I saw your post... I remembered reading the thread where the blood work was posted. Has there been any real world bloodwork posted by members of the board who actually took the stuff?
- 02-07-2006, 12:54 PM
Good workout last night, strength was up on squats and bench, there is some definite size gain going on. I will weigh in again on Saturday and I expect to see some small weight loss.
The strength gains are not overwhelming but consistent, which in itself is significant. No sides to report, and the libido remain slightly elevated if anything. Sleep is good, I feel good.
02-09-2006, 03:05 PM
Last nights workout went well, I have good energy and stamina, I’m starting to feel like a bodybuilder again. I am definitely harder and feel very good. There has been some signs of aggressiveness (a good thing under control). Libido is just above normal, it seems to be getting closer to normal as time goes on. There doesn’t seem to be any other side effects, been a pretty smooth ride so far.
02-11-2006, 01:06 PM
Very interesting thing happened, I weighed in expectiing to be around 257 cuz I really worked hard this week and I was 261.25. Ok what is happening here I should be down about 256-7 maybe lower. I am definitely leaner so I guess I'm putting on mass on a calorie deficit. I knew I could gain muscle while cutting but I was expecting it to be like losing very little weight I did not expect gains in weight.
My strength is up considerably seeing that I am on a calorie deficit, I am starting to feel big and strong again, I've never felt this way while dieting. I really kicked the crap out of myself this week so I'm tired and sore but I feel tight and am seeing size gains. So far this product has really delivered, no and with no side effects yet. My libido seems normal too slightly elevated and again considering I'm dieting it's pretty significant. Two more weeks and I don't want it to end, I may change my mind in the next couple weeks but so far a big thumbs up.
I haven't felt this good for a long time, I'm grateful it's just what I was looking for.
02-11-2006, 01:33 PM
Thats awsome to hear DW!! I hope those gains keep coming, and I suspect they will, and that they will get even better. H-50 gave me really slow steady gains, but like around week 3, it just gave it to me, and I made a big jump in gains! And yeah, the no sides is a HUGE plus! Good luck with the rest of the cycle bro!Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
02-11-2006, 03:50 PM
I have another box for later I will take 4-8 weeks off after my PCT. I ordered Novedex XT, Lean Extreme and DHEA for my next pct, along with some Powerfull and Cissus I might work that in as well. I also ordered some Orastan-E to stack with it.
02-11-2006, 04:01 PM
I got three boxes and I'm wondering if I should go with 2 a day instead of 1. I weight between 215-225 when bulking. Any suggestions?
02-11-2006, 05:50 PM
1 a day seems to work pretty good, I'd just try one and see how it goes. Why do more than you need.
02-11-2006, 06:04 PM
It's that old way of thinking....more is better. (Even though I know it isn't always true)
02-11-2006, 09:11 PM
Well you are considerably heavier than DW or myself! JJordan is a little heavier than you are, and he ran it at 1 1/2 a day, and he loved it. I am thinking of either runningit at a higher dose for 4 weeks , or at the 1 pill a day for 6 weeks next itme I do it. So I would say start at 1 1/2 a day, and asses that for 2 weeks or so, and go from there. At 1 pill a day, I felt nothing but good side effects!Originally Posted by delta314
02-12-2006, 03:18 PM
Are you using the old or new box of halo, I read most of the posts but could not tell. I'm assuming the new one since you said you got it in late January. I just started mine today and I am still questioning weather they are the same compound. I am also cutting, so I hope to have the same results as yourself. I may be thowing some orestan in at week 2 and continue it for 4 weeks, but I will wait to see if this is needed. Good luck.
02-13-2006, 09:27 AM
Good luck to you as well you'll like it I"m sure.
Swole and everybody reading this post for some reason I often right 1 hundred when I mean 2 hundred. I am 261.25, this is really important to note cuz a low dosage is working for a really big guy.
I went back and edited all he posts to correct my weight. I never thought I'd be looking this good at 260 something. I still have a long way to go but if this keeps up I'll be looking pretty fit a around 250 which is huge for me.
02-13-2006, 10:04 AM
Dreamweaver.......good to know that you're a big guy too. My weight fluctuates anywhere from low to mid 230's. I hadn't seen many logs from bigger guys.....most of the ones I'd seen were from guys that were under 200lbs. I was wondering if the 50mg dosage would be enough. I even considered using 1 and a half (75mg) per day. But since I've been on it.....I am really liking the effects I'm getting from just 50mg ED.
02-13-2006, 10:41 AM
I'm new to this Site and i'm 20 and a bodybuilder, today i started the Halodrol cycle, and like dream weaver said i'm feelin a buzz like feeling, just wanted to know if it does wear off or just continues( its not a bad thing) but just wondering? and what would be the best diet for this cycle??
02-13-2006, 12:17 PM
It's funny, some days it's stronger than others, just when you think it's gone away, the next day it's back again. It's not dibilitating and is fairly mild, (feels pretty good really).
Yah bulldog this is pretty strong stuff, I would stick with 50mg yes. It didn't take me long to figure is out, a little pill that has this kind of effect has to be pretty strong ingredients.
Oh and I'm using the new box, somone was asking.
02-13-2006, 03:21 PM
.....WOOPS!! LOL! Damn DW, that is even MORE impressive!! Damn, ok I take that back about delta being bigger than both you and I..LOL!! So there you have it folks. A VERY big guy making awesome gains on the minim dosage. So F*** it I guess I take back my statemnet about starting out with 1 1/2 dose/day if you are very big. That is good to know, though! Thanks DW! Keep up the great workOriginally Posted by DreamWeaver
02-13-2006, 03:27 PM
That is also a big plus to know DW. There is a lot of concern with people doubting the "new" batches. I guess BK was telling the truth then, when he said it is the same exact ingredient as the "old" batch, and that he does not know where all this talk about TMG being in it and stuff. I wish I got that little"buzz" feeling you were talking about! Come to think of it, the first 2 times I took it, I felt what I thought was hypoglycemia kicking in( since I have gone hypo with things like SD before)and maybe it was that buzz thing going on! I might have gottena little paranoid mistaking it for hypo...interesting....Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
02-13-2006, 04:33 PM
One other thing to note the only cycle experience I have is the T1 pro we were doing a couple years ago so I think that I am going to get more out of a lower dose of any anabolic. Make no mistake though Halodrol is strong and I would always recommend people start with the recommended dosage, plus it's easier on the pocketbook that way.
thanks for the rep power and points.
02-13-2006, 05:49 PM
Thanks a lot for the reply. Its good to know you are using the new batch, puts my mind at ease. What do you guys think about running megazol (orastan e) at a dose of 50-100 mg starting the beginning of week 3 and continuing 2 weeks after I stop taking the halodrol. Maybe I should just wait for this stuff to kick in and see how far it gets me. Anyway, good luck to all of you guys, and just for the records I am 200lbs, but a good 20% bf. I thinn the 1 dose of halo should do me good. How many days did it take you guys to feel this stuff in the gym? Today was day two so I didnt expect anything. I'm hoping by day 5 I start to see some good stuff happening. Once again thanx for the info and good luck.
02-13-2006, 05:57 PM
Good point on the pocket book thing! Mine is starting to feel light these days...LOL!!!Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
02-13-2006, 06:04 PM
Yeah NJ, the 1 dos eshould do you just fine! This stuff kicks in slow but VERY steady. SO you might not notice it right off the bat, since it is gradual and you will go along gettting used to the steady gains. But around week 2 when your poundages are up considerably, and you start feeling rock hard and pumped all the time, then there will be no denying the gains! For me, I think it was week three(I just so happened to eat a lot at that point as well)when I was hit with a super upper cut by the gains. They came on really strong at that point. But as yo should know, everyone is different, and will respond differently to things, so it might act quicker or it might act slower for you. Just make sure you are eating a lot of CLEAN food, lifting HARD, and you will make good gains. GOOD LUCK with your gains, and keep us posted! As for the Orastan e, I might do it wiht my next Halo cycle, but if you are fairly new to anablics, then you really don't need it. But the Orastan is not methylated, so that is a plus.Originally Posted by NJLovehandles
02-13-2006, 06:21 PM
I posted in one of the other Halodrol threads my progress so far, but I'd like to add a little something to this thread too. It seems this thread gets more traffic from ppl interested in Halodrol. To the original poster, if you think I'm hijacking and want me to delete my comment just say so and I will have no problem doing so.
I've been reading that the Halodrol starts off slow and whatnot, but I am now on day 8 and I have gained 5lbs.
With the way my routine is setup, I work 1 muscle group a day. I started my Halodrol on a chest day and today was the 2nd day I worked my chest while being on Halodrol, and I put 10lbs on my bench and added an additional 2 reps from what I would normally do.
To me it seems like this has NOT taken off slow. But, if this truly IS slow then I cannot wait until i hit mid 2nd week and into 3rd week.
Also, I still have not experienced any side effects whatsoever, except for some bad gas which I can't say is related to the Halodrol.
Edit - Just like to add that I am stacking my Halodrol with Orastan E as well.
02-13-2006, 09:21 PM
What is your anabolic experience? what have yo used in the past if anything. If youhave not tried anything before, or have done little, then you might be "fresher" and get immediate gains. Also like I stated before, everyone will react differently. Also, maybe adding in the Ortan is synergistic with the Halo, and giving you quicker gains. DW, you got anything to add? Sorry I answered this before you!Originally Posted by jjm
02-13-2006, 10:43 PM
This is my first cycle of any pro-hormone/steroid. I did my research and the fact that Halodrol doesn't aromatise into estrogen and has little to no side effects stood out in my head, and I thought that this would be good for me to learn on.Originally Posted by swole210
I am very happy with the gains I have seen so far, as my goal for the whole entire cycle was to gain 5lbs, and I have already done that.
I'm really looking forward to around the end of my cycle to see what kind of gains the Halodrol will give me then.
02-14-2006, 09:57 AM
You start feeling something about 4 or 5 days in, it's not overwhelming at first, week 2 it's stronger. I would run it alone for the first cycle and save the stacking for the next cycle, that's what I'm doing anyhow.
I had a good night last night bench is up about 20 lbs, squat around 40. I have to say I am happy I'm going hard core with all compound movements. I read a lot of logs where the people are doing a lot of isolation and it's sometimes hard to get a feel for how much they are really progressing. I looked at my arm today (did a little flex) I can't remember if I've ever seen that much of a peak b4.
Oh and swole, I can see how you might have thought that about the buzz, when I have nothing to focus on I do feel a little disconnected. If it were not for the feeling of good energy I might think that's what it was.
02-14-2006, 10:44 AM
Do ya'll think its ok To take a NO2 supplement(blitz cycle) with Halodrol, cuz i still got about 2 weeks worth. 2nd day on Halodrol , going pretty good. still just a lil buzz feeling.
02-14-2006, 11:49 AM
I'd like to see what DreamWeaver's input is on this. My personal opinion.........I'd stop the NO product. I was taking a NO product before I started the H-50 cycle. I'm getting really awesome pumps from the Halodrol. I'm thinking the NO on top of that may be a little much, even to the point that you may get painful pumps.Originally Posted by WR04
It may not matter so much in the first week. My results have been very gradual but steady. After the first week is over is when things really seem to start happening. So my advice would be that if you still wanna use the Blitz Cycle.....I wouldn't go much past the first week of your H-50 cycle on it. You won't need it after then anyway.
02-14-2006, 12:14 PM
Bulldog good assessment, the pumps are already pretty strong I think the NO product might make things a little uncomfortable. You want to know where your results are coming from also. I see people doing all these crazy stacks and sometimes wonder 'how do they know what works?'. I know a great deal of the time it's people with a lot of anabolic experience and they know what there doing. When your starting out though you need to take it a step at a time. I will find out how something works for my body and then maybe expand.
By the way Jim your input is most welcome, not to worry about participating your experience into this thread.
02-14-2006, 02:34 PM
Save it for after the H-50! You don't need it right now. That way you have somethign to help you maintain or keep making gains afterwards!Originally Posted by WR04
02-14-2006, 07:51 PM
Is anyone else takin the orastan-E w/the cycle, and is it really necessary? i have the Novex for mid cycle but just wanted to know about the orastan-E.
02-15-2006, 10:41 AM
Like I said I will be using NHA and DHEA for PCT but another thing I'm thinking about now is bridging, I will not start my second cycle (maximus stack) untill later may (I'm going to wait the 90 days). I can just run my PCT and wait for a couple months and start my next cycle. I have ordered some PowerFull and Cissus I could do a cycle of this after my PCT. I could run NHA for an extra 4 weeks. I guess I will need to do some more reading. Any opinions here would be welcome. I have to make another order, turns out that Novedex only has 60 pills per bottle and the maximus stack recommends 2-3 a day for 2 weeks then 4 a day for 2 weeks which means 2 bottles, then why do they tell you, you only need one. I will either buy more NHA or more Powerfull and Cissus. I haven't made up my mind yet.
I have switched all my evening cardio sessions to interval training, 3 minutes low intensity 3 minutes high for 30 minutes, I like this cardio a lot better the time goes by quick and it kicks the crap out of you. I thought my lungs were going to explode, much more fun.
WR04 like I said, I would run it alone for the first cycle, save the Orastan for another cycle. You want to see how one reacts to you b4 adding the other. Just my opinion I'm no cycle expert.
02-15-2006, 01:31 PM
This question goes out to everyone. I originally bought 1 bottle of Novedex XT and 1 bottle of Anabolic Xtreme Rebound XT. I was going to try and sell the Rebound so I could get another bottle of Novedex XT, but do you think I would be ok using my 1 bottle of Rebound XT and my 1 bottle of Novedex XT instead of using 2 bottles of Novedex?Originally Posted by DreamWeaver
02-15-2006, 09:09 PM
^ Anyone?Originally Posted by jjm
Anyway, today was my 10th day on Halodrol/Orastan and I stepped on the scale and I weighed 177. So I've gained 7lbs in 10 days.
I added 10lbs and 2 reps to my military press, and throughout the rest of my shoulder workout I noticed I had a lot more stamina than I usually would. I was bangin out more reps and it felt easier than usual.
I can't wait until my upcoming back and leg days...
02-16-2006, 12:43 AM
I thought DHEA causes estrogen?? which would be a bad choice for pct... right?
just questioning.. i've just been reading a lot and don't know that much...
*btw..subscribes.. nice log.
02-16-2006, 12:44 AM
Not quite sure how DHEA would cause estrogen but... I don't think he was speaking of that being his sole component in PCT anyways.Originally Posted by shiby1510
02-16-2006, 10:36 AM
DHEA is good when your older and in this case I think it is a good choice. NHA is the key component of my PCT, I don't really think there will be much to recover from the boys are still big and brassy, my libido is slightly elevated where I would normally be at least partially shut down on something suppressive.
Workout was very good last night some strength increase was evident. I hear people talking about pumps, but because I'm not really doing any isolation I can't really say pumps are that out of the ordinary but I will say that I'm experiencing a lot of muscle hardness and it stays with me for long periods. My pumps used to be really kind of soft where I'd look more bloated.
What I'm really impressed with is my ability to melt fat and still put on muscle, I've experienced some of this in isolated situations but nothing like what I'm experiencing right now. I believe cycling this with a long slow cut would really show a metamorphosous in body composition. I am not on any schedule anymore (don't plan on competing) what I plan to do is to bridge the best I can to the next cycle and keep going with the slow cut. I think that I will be able to attain a better body composition than I have ever had. I am picturing 230 at 12%. Seems very doable.
Maintenance has always been a problem for me so I'm am devising a plan where I will be basically maintaining this style of eating ....forever. It's a pretty contreversial diet and I will divulge my results when I measure my success, so far the prognosis is very good. I will know more when I'm down another 20 lbs. Stay tuned this spring I may have some really good info.
Like I said earlier looking for some input on bridging, I feel that Activate, Cissus and Powerfull are good bridging products.
02-16-2006, 12:28 PM
DHEA via DR. D's protocol works wonders, esp. for Libido when you run ATD. Do a search, and if Dr. D suggests, its worth a try...
02-16-2006, 02:09 PM
Yes I remember reading that, he basically says that you have to take a lot of DHEA get supressed and that DHEA is a good Testostorone precuersor and will bounce you back faster. Sounds good to me. There are also some posts of good libido recovery while taking DHEA with ATD.
02-18-2006, 06:08 PM
Dynamite workout last night considering my training partner couldn't join me and I had no spotter. The weight really felt light and my reps and weight were up, but I bet they would have been up a little more with a spotter. I really feel as though I hammered it out.
The waist is definitely smaller this week and I weighed in a 259.5. I would normally be about 255 (probably lower) by now and there is a lot of visual evidence of gain. I estimate 6 or 7 lean lbs have been added. The gains are lean and dry. There is abolutely no negative sides the libido is in check and the boys are holding there own. I'm going to run the full 30 days and then Use NHA for 30 days, with the DHEA. I will then do a 30 day PowerFull, Cissus, camph, bridge, take a month off of the supps and then I will be ready for my Maximus Stack.
My goal is 230-235 12-14% bf. Nice and slow...that's how I'm gonna do it... nice and slow.
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