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[Celorza]

Good morning. And I'm calling bull****. I believe you added 100 pounds to a powerlifting total in six months. I believe you could've added 25 pounds of allegedly lean mass in 6 months on newbie gains but 25 pounds of lean tissue is quite a bit in that time span, even for a newb. You would have had to have your training really dialed in and if you training had been dialed in enough to add 25 lean pounds, between the big three, that training should have given you much greater strength gains than 100 pounds.

Figure 30 pounds on the squat, 40 on the deadlift and 30 on the bench press... that's pretty weak in six months for a guy packing on a legitimate pound of muscle per week. Maybe you were measuring with a scale or one of those hand held thingings with a deviation of plus or minus like 30 percent?

Also, would you tell a guy on a low carb diet to merely add rice to lunch and dinner if he's having trouble getting chicken breasts and olive oil down?

Lets see, weight gain wasn't 100% lean or of lean tissue completely. Like I said not much change in bf, 3% for me I don't mind , I was way too low actually. Gains have been on muscle mass, glycogen stores and water. Also you fail to look at the whole picture of powerlifting, I am not geared at all I am in a raw division, I haven't used AAS and also, an increase of 100lbs to a total in 6 months , I'd say it's a win.

It would mean that roughly (a bit more actually) 5lbs were increasing in all my lifts on average, when it actually shifter itself heavily on my dead and squat lately...bench is odd for me. However what did you expect? I was using 5/3/1 with periodization assistance schemes...do you have any idea how much you are to increase the 1RM and how often on 5/3/1?

[hvactech]

Why should I? Fridge

cause you'll have to trade your extra small shirts in for mediums and clothes get expensive!

[Celorza]

cause you'll have to trade your extra small shirts in for mediums and clothes get expensive!

I mean , why should I get big or too big lol

But good point though!

[vidapreta]

I mean , why should I get big or too big lol

So you can be a Bouncer at the Club..

Or even Mr.Olympia..

[blueblood]

I'm kinda new here, just spent the last 45 min reading this thread..... Made me skip breakfast...... DAMN IT AM!

[TexasGuy]

Lets see, weight gain wasn't 100% lean or of lean tissue completely. Like I said not much change in bf, 3% for me I don't mind , I was way too low actually. Gains have been on muscle mass, glycogen stores and water. Also you fail to look at the whole picture of powerlifting, I am not geared at all I am in a raw division, I haven't used AAS and also, an increase of 100lbs to a total in 6 months , I'd say it's a win.

It would mean that roughly (a bit more actually) 5lbs were increasing in all my lifts on average, when it actually shifter itself heavily on my dead and squat lately...bench is odd for me. However what did you expect? I was using 5/3/1 with periodization assistance schemes...do you have any idea how much you are to increase the 1RM and how often on 5/3/1?

So now we are talking about maybe ten pounds of muscle in a six month period, which is pretty weak. You should be reading the bulk forum, not giving advice in it. And you are making leangains look like ****, ftr.

Congrats adding 100 natty pounds to yout total. It would be expected in a six month period and you clearly did what needed to be done but it sure as **** isn't brag worthy, chestcrack.

[Rodja]

So now we are talking about maybe ten pounds of muscle in a six month period, which is pretty weak. You should be reading the bulk forum, not giving advice in it. And you are making leangains look like ****, ftr.

Congrats adding 100 natty pounds to yout total. It would be expected in a six month period and you clearly did what needed to be done but it sure as **** isn't brag worthy, chestcrack.

Any points that you may have made along the way have been severely degraded by your childish bantering. I already knew that logical arguments weren't your forte, but, for someone that surely try to say you weren't going to get involved in a pissing contest, you sure as hell have been going against your own words. Didn't you say you were done with this thread about 5 pages ago?

[Celorza]

Any points that you may have made along the way have been severely degraded by your childish bantering. I already knew that logical arguments weren't your forte, but, for someone that surely try to say you weren't going to get involved in a pissing contest, you sure as hell have been going against your own words. Didn't you say you were done with this thread about 5 pages ago?

Not to mention that he fails to regard the fact that even more advanced and experienced lifters barely put up 10-15 lbs a year of quality lean muscle mass...Aw well, we tried bro, and I also failed into his category and ended up in a pissing contest ¬¬'.

[LiveToLift]

Not to mention that he fails to regard the fact that even more advanced and experienced lifters barely put up 10-15 lbs a year of quality lean muscle mass...Aw well, we tried bro, and I also failed into his category and ended up in a pissing contest ¬¬'.

This is true but it is not very difficult at all for first year lifters. Do have to remember that.

[TexasGuy]

Any points that you may have made along the way have been severely degraded by your childish bantering. I already knew that logical arguments weren't your forte, but, for someone that surely try to say you weren't going to get involved in a pissing contest, you sure as hell have been going against your own words. Didn't you say you were done with this thread about 5 pages ago?

I still want to know if your leangains were natural or if you use prohormones, test boosting supplements or steroids. Do you use PES products?

Or why it's a good idea for some people to slam ingesting nutrients 5-6 times per day while they ingest nutrients 5-6 times per day but call half of them a fast.

Or how steroids nullify one diet for another when it shouldn't matter according to some when macros are ingested as long as they are.

Or why people incessently compare the nutritional needs of bodybuilding and powerlifting as the same when they clearly know each training style induces completely different physiological responses.

And all the other evidently super logical bull**** that's been largely ignored for the sake of taking the conversation on a twist out of context or making personal attacks or snarky comments while altogether ignoring the content of the discussion.

With a lack of double blind, controlled studies on protein synthesis on bodybuilders it's hilarious to watch people step on an invisible soap box and throw the importance of studies around when there isn't one to support their criticism. There is no logic to ignoring such wide reaching, consistent results the frequent meal, high protein diet plans at the center of bodybuilding provide and always have provided.

The logical thing to do would be to default to the next best evidence for efficacy, empirical evidence. It is absolutely not logical to just act like the fact a specific diet on a specific population is lost in the twighlight zone because a university lab has not studied it explicitly.

And yeah, I did respond to chestcrack in kind. Probably shouldn't have but for the record I didn't deduct his internet points for making whimsical comments in a topic he doesn't know anything about while parading around like some kind of smart ass, worker ant hero. It's a real shame points don't actually indicate knowledge but some kind of web politics. It could be very misleading to a newb here who also happens to be a newb in the gym.

We have results and we have dogma. I will logically take results, all day.

[R3ACTION]

This is true but it is not very difficult at all for first year lifters. Do have to remember that.

I'd have to agree with you on this Dr. Puff.

[LiveToLift]

I'd have to agree with you on this Dr. Puff.

Seriously though, my first 6 months back lifting I went from 142 to 158 and actually lost a percent or 2 of body fat. This was all while diet was not dialed in and training was not to the level it is now. When you are that small for your height you can add weight with out even knowing what the hell you are doing. If I remember right the pic of cel at 124 or whatever had him so depleted that a glass of water would have easily pushed him over 130.

[TexasGuy]

Not to mention that he fails to regard the fact that even more advanced and experienced lifters barely put up 10-15 lbs a year of quality lean muscle mass...Aw well, we tried bro, and I also failed into his category and ended up in a pissing contest ¬¬'.

I was talking to you, not an experienced bodybuilder. You were a 125 pound dude by your own admission and I clearly mentioned newb gains in my reply to you. Not only that, you've not even reached the upper limit of your natural capacity and never will as you don't want to outgrow your training diaper. You are not in the advanced category.

It's become my understanding pissing contests are your forte, as well as using internet points politically. Trivial and pissing in the wind. Cool story though.

[Celorza]

I was talking to you, not an experienced bodybuilder. You were a 125 pound dude by your own admission and I clearly mentioned newb gains in my reply to you.

It's become my understanding pissing contests are your forte, as well as using internet points politically. Trivial and pissing in the wind. Cool story though.

I am not a bodybuilder lol , neither do I wanna be , sorry brah...but being a freak show ain't my thing.

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[Danb2285]

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That's foul dude I'm outta the trio...eat a hot pocket or something DAMN

[bla55]

Can we please keep rambling to a minimum when posting? It gets so annoying to read something that just keeps hitting the same key over and over again and not responding to the topics, just answering questions with questions.

[LiveToLift]

Can we please keep rambling to a minimum when posting? It gets so annoying to read something that just keeps hitting the same key over and over again and not responding to the topics, just answering questions with questions.

Boo!!!! Your no fun.

[R3ACTION]

Can we please keep rambling to a minimum when posting? It gets so annoying to read something that just keeps hitting the same key over and over again and not responding to the topics, just answering questions with questions.

Wait a minute, there was a legitimate question?

[R3ACTION]

That's foul dude I'm outta the trio...eat a hot pocket or something DAMN

Sorry to let you down brother.