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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kmh23 View Post
    @ pistol, I've never heard of osterine. I've been off sauce for about year and half. I do supplement with daa about every other month. And for an amino acid it's pretty impressive. I def notice a better libido and strength.
    Oh. You gotta look it up man. Its good stuff. I'm running a bulking log on it right now, and its going great. Weight and strength are going up every week. It was designed to stop muscle wasting in people with cancer and aids, so its supposed to be better for cutting than bulking. Its similar to anavar in many ways, but its waaayyy cheaper. I was just wondering if anybody knew how well it preserves muscle compared to AAS.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post

    Oh. You gotta look it up man. Its good stuff. I'm running a bulking log on it right now, and its going great. Weight and strength are going up every week. It was designed to stop muscle wasting in people with cancer and aids, so its supposed to be better for cutting than bulking. Its similar to anavar in many ways, but its waaayyy cheaper. I was just wondering if anybody knew how well it preserves muscle compared to AAS.
    Well the IC deal just passed but for a natural supp, look into Versa-1 from USPlabs. I've never taken Osterine but presumably Versa-1 is probably safer than Osterine. Logs speak for themselves, I can get you some links to logs to check out. Would be very valuable in PCT
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  3. Is osterine a peptide? I do remember is brefiely being talked about on pro m. But I never looked into it. I never messed with peps. Knew that I was no where near advanced enough. Plus the cost. I mean I love this **** its just so expensive. If I wa gonna cross the line again it would be just plain old test/Anavar and aromasin.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by kmh23
    Is osterine a peptide? I do remember is brefiely being talked about on pro m. But I never looked into it. I never messed with peps. Knew that I was no where near advanced enough. Plus the cost. I mean I love this **** its just so expensive. If I wa gonna cross the line again it would be just plain old test/Anavar and aromasin.
    Nah. Its a SARM. No side effects except natural test suppression. Won't shut you down, but can lower your test production. I've been running it for 4 weeks with triazole for the last 2, and I feel great. I'm at a high dosage too, so I can swear by the lack of side effects. Its a new drug tho, so nobody knows what will happen with chronic use for a decade or anything.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    Well the IC deal just passed but for a natural supp, look into Versa-1 from USPlabs. I've never taken Osterine but presumably Versa-1 is probably safer than Osterine. Logs speak for themselves, I can get you some links to logs to check out. Would be very valuable in PCT
    Cool. If u wanna send me some links, cool, if not... I'll find em anyways. Haha. I'm quite the researcher
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  6. What's the current body fat of the op? If you are cutting 18 weeks out, what is the overall goal with your initial cut. Recomp or straight cut at this point?
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post
    What's the current body fat of the op? If you are cutting 18 weeks out, what is the overall goal with your initial cut. Recomp or straight cut at this point?
    I would say body fat is still in the upper teens. My back and legs are starting to show some signs of lower body fat but my midsection isn't showing much abs if any at all. I believe I will be straight cutting all the way to the show may even have to sacrifice muscle, but everyone's got to cut sometime right? Haha, I went overboard with the bulking so now if I want to be in shape in time I need to keep a large caloric deficit and cardio high the whole time :/.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by tkc0mand3r

    I would say body fat is still in the upper teens. My back and legs are starting to show some signs of lower body fat but my midsection isn't showing much abs if any at all. I believe I will be straight cutting all the way to the show may even have to sacrifice muscle, but everyone's got to cut sometime right? Haha, I went overboard with the bulking so now if I want to be in shape in time I need to keep a large caloric deficit and cardio high the whole time :/.
    Yea, your body fat estimate sounds about right. When u start seeing ur flexed abs in the right lighting, prolly like 13ish. When u start seeing ur abs even when non flexing, ur prolly below 10. Keep up the good work bro. Get diced!

  9. At least your realistic about the shape your in. That way you aren't left in the end thinking you were just holding water or some ****. Seen so many guys go all the way though preps to end up looking ten pounds over weight on top watery blury from carb loadin while water depleting. Doesn't sound like that's gonna be you. You gonna post progress pics?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kmh23 View Post
    At least your realistic about the shape your in. That way you aren't left in the end thinking you were just holding water or some ****. Seen so many guys go all the way though preps to end up looking ten pounds over weight on top watery blury from carb loadin while water depleting. Doesn't sound like that's gonna be you. You gonna post progress pics?

    Very True!!! All you have is yourself to lie to. I tell people that when they say I am 8% and I have twice the six, hell 8 pak and they have just the top two. Cutting is the hardest part. Keep it up brother once you do you will be addicted to it. I love 5% its amazing to see youself just before stage time. The next 3 weeks is all about showing it all of too.

    Living in Florida I have tons of opportunity to show the abs off. And chicks love it. Hell my wife see em everyday and still loves them when I take my shirt off.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post

    Very True!!! All you have is yourself to lie to. I tell people that when they say I am 8% and I have twice the six, hell 8 pak and they have just the top two. Cutting is the hardest part. Keep it up brother once you do you will be addicted to it. I love 5% its amazing to see youself just before stage time. The next 3 weeks is all about showing it all of too.

    Living in Florida I have tons of opportunity to show the abs off. And chicks love it. Hell my wife see em everyday and still loves them when I take my shirt off.
    Where at in Florida?

  12. I live about 30 min north of Orlando in Mount Dora, FL
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  13. Hahaha, thanks for the encouragement guys! I actually meant to post here today because now that my epistane is done in a couple more days I was wondering if you guys thought I should/could throw some other compounds or supplements in. Money isn't much of an issue right now so there is something I could be taking I'd like to take it, should I keep going with the epistane? Hdrol? Anavar? I don't want to trust tren and have really easy access to prohormones. I am just taking the test/otc fat burner/multi/fish oil. Going to start adding hemavol to my preworkout for extra pumps, sip on bcaas a lot more, stuff like that to keep me on task. Any suggestions of what I can spend my money on haha?

    I will post progress pics eventually yeah. Not comfortable right now to be completely honest but I am trying my hardest right now been hitting the macros plus or minus 5 grams everyday, getting in all my cardio and training as intense as possible. To give you a visual my top 2 abs are starting to show when in abdominal thigh pose and my quads showing good separation. LONG WAY TO GO THOUGH!

  14. Anavar would do you great to drop fat. Being around your BF% hitting 75mg-100mg everyday for 6-8 (side depending) weeks would be amazing. If money isn't an issue this is what you should look at.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  15. Tomorrow will be 18 WEEKS OUT. So here I am updating. The average weigh in was around 210 this week and as low as 208.8 one day. Hitting the weights hard as I can, got in all 5 cardio sessions (4 30 min LISS, 1 20 min HIIT) and been hitting the macros pretty close. A point I would like to make is I have been eyeballing basically all my measurements besides a few things. Tuesday I go back to college and will be using my food scale to precisely weigh everything. This week is about 2 weeks into the diet and am starting to feel hungry for the first time haha. I am going to see if I can get Anavar back at school and probably add that in but I will update if I do. As of now for this week I will be keeping everything the same. The epistane is done so now its just test 600mg/week for aas, then I have 1 OxyECA and 3mg Yohimbine every morning. Keeping cardio the same 4x30minute LISS, 1x20minute HIIT, macros will also stay the same 220p/250c/60f BUT there will be adjustments next Saturday. I am not sure what yet for the macros but I will be decreasing overall calories but adding a refeed day during the week where carbs will be upped. Thanks guys!

  16. I agree w Danger Dave about the var. **** is awesome. But know your source or do a small test to make sure it's legit bc it's faked alot. Would suck to blow 2months worth at 100mg a day.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    Anavar would do you great to drop fat. Being around your BF% hitting 75mg-100mg everyday for 6-8 (side depending) weeks would be amazing. If money isn't an issue this is what you should look at.
    That seems pretty high dosage for what I'm looking for. My muscle mass is solid right now and doesn't seem to be threatened with 600mg test EW, so really just looking for the fat loss properties which I thought could be seen as low as 20-50mg ED

    Quote Originally Posted by kmh23 View Post
    I agree w Danger Dave about the var. **** is awesome. But know your source or do a small test to make sure it's legit bc it's faked alot. Would suck to blow 2months worth at 100mg a day.
    I have a reputable source at school, praying he has this miracle drug you guys speak of haha .

  18. It's not a miracle drug. But it is one of the best when cutting. IMO it works better when already leaner. It's really not worth the money until you pushing 70mg plus a day. That's why it's so expensive. 20mg would be pretty affordable but that's kind of dose a female would take.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by kmh23 View Post
    It's not a miracle drug. But it is one of the best when cutting. IMO it works better when already leaner. It's really not worth the money until you pushing 70mg plus a day. That's why it's so expensive. 20mg would be pretty affordable but that's kind of dose a female would take.
    Agree 100%. Sub 8% bodyfat is who sees amazing results at 50-75mg ed. If bodyfat is more then doseage needs to be around 100mg. Less than 40mg is female doseage and will be a waste of money plus you will be disappointed.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  20. Prop Mast Var = the best my body has ever looked. My size is about the same but prolly not gonna see that look again wo assistance.

  21. Ahhhh I see, understandable. What about 4 weeks of HDrol to kick it up a notch while I'm still getting leaner?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by tkc0mand3r View Post
    Ahhhh I see, understandable. What about 4 weeks of HDrol to kick it up a notch while I'm still getting leaner?
    Run it 6 side depending. I see guys getting best results week 3-5 usually.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  23. Whats your diet like? I know you posted your macros. But specifically what are your most used pro, cho, n fat sources? We spoke about fatburners earlier as well, dont know if I mentioned one I have quite a bit and just started using again... Nicotine patch. Good energy and good fatburner. Actually makes me sleep better which is weird but important when dieting bc me sleep goes to **** as soon as I start cutting calories.

  24. Var + low bodyfat= win

    Use var when your around 12% or lower you will see great results. under 10% really great results, and the lower you get the better it works.
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  25. @02sixxer, I asked the other day bc I just moved here in the summer. I'm around west palm. Weather is crazy. I've been wearing shorts for six months.

  26. My diet is pretty "clean" my protein sources are: whey, chicken, egg whites, Greek yogurt. Carbs: oats, fruits, whole wheat bread, any type of rice and I'm not afraid to throw in a frozen yogurt or skinny cow ice cream if carbs are low. My fats: basically whatever comes from the protein sources and all natural peanut butter if I have any left before bed. I think I will stick with the test, oxyeca, yohimbine and add vanillean until I'm at least seeing abs flexed. Thanks for your help guys had a minor set back yesterday but back on track and back to school tomorrow, will be tunnel vision for awhile!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by kmh23 View Post
    @02sixxer, I asked the other day bc I just moved here in the summer. I'm around west palm. Weather is crazy. I've been wearing shorts for six months.
    I am about 2 hours north on 95 from west palm. I family down there though in west palm bch. Also a lil south of there in Fort Lauderdale. Love FL weather. Short 90% of the time. The only bad thing is rain comes from nowhere in the summer time.
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  28. Hey guys, hope I'm not intruding here, just trying to get some help on my upcoming cut... do you think that an hdrol/ trenazone stack would spare a lot of muscle? And what dosage for h drol? Thanks!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by pistol345 View Post
    Hey guys, hope I'm not intruding here, just trying to get some help on my upcoming cut... do you think that an hdrol/ trenazone stack would spare a lot of muscle? And what dosage for h drol? Thanks!
    I personally never understood ph use. Except maybe sd. What I mean is if ur ****ing with that stuff then natural is out the window. So why do an injectable that is much less of a health risk and more potent. But I'm prolly the wrong one to ask but if u were I would say hop on some test if u wanna cross over

  30. Quote Originally Posted by kmh23

    I personally never understood ph use. Except maybe sd. What I mean is if ur ****ing with that stuff then natural is out the window. So why do an injectable that is much less of a health risk and more potent. But I'm prolly the wrong one to ask but if u were I would say hop on some test if u wanna cross over
    Yea. I've thought about test injections... just that I don't even know anyone that's done it, and idk about a legit source. From what I hear, the board sponsors on elitefitness.com are legit. Would you agree?
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