It's all per person with cardio, I've heard of people staying with the same macros for 10 weeks and only adjusting cardio (ala Dorian Yates)
. I see what your saying with already cutting macros, problem is the scale just isnt really budging like it should be and I am more than comfortable with the amount of food I am eating right now. I will see how this week goes with 2450 calories again and that addition cardio session (as a personal thing I'd rather increase cardio rather than decrease food intake, so your right). The OxyECA I take everyday now taking 2 and the yohimbine only pre-cardio is rotating like that really necessary? I am talking about OxyECA the over the counter fat burner not the ECA your thinking of. So far I'm happy with the way things are going the true test will be when I'm back at school! Thanks again everyone I will update next week with my 18 weeks out update.
Oh okay. And what about the type of cardio? My understanding is that HIIT is not only the quickest way to lose fat, but it spares muscle, and raises cortisol less than other kinds. So why not do HIIT every time? Or am I incorrect?
I don't like HIIT cardio. However, others love it.
Oh. You gotta look it up man. Its good stuff. I'm running a bulking log on it right now, and its going great. Weight and strength are going up every week. It was designed to stop muscle wasting in people with cancer and aids, so its supposed to be better for cutting than bulking. Its similar to anavar in many ways, but its waaayyy cheaper. I was just wondering if anybody knew how well it preserves muscle compared to AAS.
Well the IC deal just passed but for a natural supp, look into Versa-1 from USPlabs. I've never taken Osterine but presumably Versa-1 is probably safer than Osterine. Logs speak for themselves, I can get you some links to logs to check out. Would be very valuable in PCT
Nah. Its a SARM. No side effects except natural test suppression. Won't shut you down, but can lower your test production. I've been running it for 4 weeks with triazole for the last 2, and I feel great. I'm at a high dosage too, so I can swear by the lack of side effects. Its a new drug tho, so nobody knows what will happen with chronic use for a decade or anything.
Cool. If u wanna send me some links, cool, if not... I'll find em anyways. Haha. I'm quite the researcher
I would say body fat is still in the upper teens. My back and legs are starting to show some signs of lower body fat but my midsection isn't showing much abs if any at all. I believe I will be straight cutting all the way to the show may even have to sacrifice muscle, but everyone's got to cut sometime right? Haha, I went overboard with the bulking so now if I want to be in shape in time I need to keep a large caloric deficit and cardio high the whole time :/.
Yea, your body fat estimate sounds about right. When u start seeing ur flexed abs in the right lighting, prolly like 13ish. When u start seeing ur abs even when non flexing, ur prolly below 10. Keep up the good work bro. Get diced!
Where at in Florida?
That seems pretty high dosage for what I'm looking for. My muscle mass is solid right now and doesn't seem to be threatened with 600mg test EW, so really just looking for the fat loss properties which I thought could be seen as low as 20-50mg ED
I have a reputable source at school, praying he has this miracle drug you guys speak of haha
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Agree 100%. Sub 8% bodyfat is who sees amazing results at 50-75mg ed. If bodyfat is more then doseage needs to be around 100mg. Less than 40mg is female doseage and will be a waste of money plus you will be disappointed.
Run it 6 side depending. I see guys getting best results week 3-5 usually.
I am about 2 hours north on 95 from west palm. I family down there though in west palm bch. Also a lil south of there in Fort Lauderdale. Love FL weather. Short 90% of the time. The only bad thing is rain comes from nowhere in the summer time.
I personally never understood ph use. Except maybe sd. What I mean is if ur ****ing with that stuff then natural is out the window. So why do an injectable that is much less of a health risk and more potent. But I'm prolly the wrong one to ask but if u were I would say hop on some test if u wanna cross over
Yea. I've thought about test injections... just that I don't even know anyone that's done it, and idk about a legit source. From what I hear, the board sponsors on elitefitness.com are legit. Would you agree?
Hey man, coming from someone who has used PH's and AAS, I can back up the fact that injections is by far superior in all aspects. PH's are so up and down that one day I'm lethargic, one day I'm mad, but the gym is always a good pump. Test E injections you will not notice a big jump like PH's but I feel like thats for the best. It doesn't hurt, you don't feel sick or any different, yet after a few weeks you will be in the gym lifting heavier and recovering faster. I can't answer your question on dosage or if that cycle is good because I haven't used either of those. I would use Test to maintain if not add some muscle while cutting like I am now and once in lower bodyfat% add a hardening compound or PH like winny or epistane like I will around 8-10 weeks out. Good luck bud
Okay thanks a lot!
Lol I really couldn't say. There r tons out there. I hear about people getting burned all the time but if you put in the time you can find rock solid reliable and quality sources online. Just takes some effort
Haven't used either of those bro but I'm a fan of dpi while cutting. I was on a steel calorie deficit and i got stronger every week...
Aren't you cutting?? Why would you increase your carb levels while cutting?? Your on 500mg test, that will preserve your muscle! I'd be slowly dropping carbs week by week and increasing your good fats to make up the calories. Keep the refeed day, if anything bump it up while your cutting your carbs down week by week. Just my .02c
Not increasing carbs just adding a refeed day 1 time a week. I'm not adding a refeed day to preserve muscle lol I'm adding it because I'm hungry and this will still leave me in a deficit even on the refeed day because my carbs are low. I will decrease carbs/fats more as weeks go by to increase the deficit as needed.
250g of carbs is not low man. I bulk with that much lol.
Really??? That sucksss I need atleast 500+ for bulking. 250 could be keto for some NPC guys. But, the key is too keep carbs as high as possible while still in a deficit. I will keep lowering carbs and/or fat (personal perference) to stay in a large deficit as weeks go by!
Well remember that carbs are your bodies preferred source of fuel so taking in 250g+ daily your bodies going to want to use that source of fuel first before burning bodyfat. But your still a long way out so there's plenty of time for adjustment later
