What are the metabolites of TRN and TST?
I don't think anyone (who's talking) even knows (definitively) what TST and TRN are, let alone their metabolites.
But what is actually in these products? Are we sure they are legal? What is the "trade name"?
I would be interested in running these but want to make sure they are not on the Steriod Act of 2004
The silence on this thread is disturbing, isn't it?
All I know is that I handle any AAS well. Do not ever have gyno problems, hair loss problems, prostatic hypertrophy problems, and no acne problems. I do get agression.
After 7 days on TST, my body broke out like I have never in all my life seen. It literally looked like I had the chicken pox. Small bumps EVERYWHERE on my back, sides, arms, etc. Yes, it was acne. It still has not completely gone away after a little over a week.
I am VERY curious to know what exactly TST is..... and why it had such a profound effect on me..
One has to wonder why, since most if not all of these products will be discontinued, no one who knows is willing to give up the active. It's not like it's going to be a money maker, I think there was one run only of TST with no others planned. So what's the big deal and why will no one (manufacturers) give the active? I think I've seen copycats of TRN already, so the active is apparently out. I know people want to protect their profit potential for as long as possible, but I think these two are at the point where someone should let us know just what the hell is in them. At this point more information probably wouldn't hurt sales. Hell, might help sales if people knew what the hell it was.
bump I'll keep trying
TST/TRN from my understanding is a derivative of Tren, but not methylated that's as far as I know.
Sh1t I just want confirmation it is not a scheduled drug. Is that so hard to ask?
where is yeahright at? he's got the know how on this stuff... also, could someone, say, sue one of these companies for selling "steroids". just wondering?
It is.Originally Posted by dmilhouse
The Anabolic Steroid Control Act now states, in part...
"(A) The term 'anabolic steroid' means any drug or hormonal substance, chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone (other than estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and dehydroepiandrosterone), and includes... “
If I read this TRN/TST is toeing the line of the gray area and of course since supp companies aren't as big as Big Tobacco they don't have the Lobbist dollars to through around and thus I think they (supp companies) they're folding under pressure of the FDA.
So I don't think it is, but yes it could be if they don't stop selling it per the FDA. They could sue yes, but you would be safe as long as they are not found Illegal.
but at least it is not called out specifically like M1T of 1-AD, etc???
Well you could run it and get tested and see
But more than likely, no one will say anything so their ass is covered, and rightfully so. If your in doubt, then don't use it.
M-trn is a progestin so therefore it is excluded from the ban substances list as of right now,as for tst most people are up in the air as to what is in it.
LOL, my ears were burning. What's the question I'm supposed to be able to answer?Originally Posted by 400runner
As to someone filing suit against a company for selling "steroids", that depends.
One wouldn't likely have a private cause of action to enforce a controlled substance law (however, there might be some obscure state statute somewhere I'm unaware of). There are some weird circumstance where private citizens can enforce laws but I don't think any are applicable here.
Nonetheless, filing a private tort suit would be easy. If one suffered measurable harm due to the ingestion of one of these substances, then a suit against the manufacturer, distributer and retail agent for distribution of an inherantly dangerous product would be pretty easy to make.....especially if one could show the jury that the manufacturer was deliberately flouting the law by distributing a product that was (1) a molecule or two away from an already illegal substance; (2) untested for safety or efficacy; and (3) sold without reasonable safety warnings to the end user. My hunch is that it would be easy for a grieving parent to convince a jury that the evil company killed little Johnny by selling him a dietary supplement that was really just a disguised evil steroid.
All I want to know is if M-TRN (TST) are all ready on the bill from 2004?