TST and TRN Metabolites

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  1. You got your Oratropin?
    Awesome!

    That would be good if you are looking to lean out - just make sure you get enough good carbs.


  2. No I was calling couldnt get anyone Fri, If they got it Ill take it RIGHT NOW!!!!!! I talked to j*** wed, thur . I guess Ill try again Mon. I hope its in Daddys Ready!!!! And if you talk to them let Them know hold one for Hollywood . I will deff call mon. Sometimes I can get online but most of the time it reads Error on Page.
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  3. The warehouse is open from like 10 to 5pm (Central). Try during then.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by dirtysouthmuscl
    No I was calling couldnt get anyone Fri, If they got it Ill take it RIGHT NOW!!!!!! I talked to j*** wed, thur . I guess Ill try again Mon. I hope its in Daddys Ready!!!! And if you talk to them let Them know hold one for Hollywood . I will deff call mon. Sometimes I can get online but most of the time it reads Error on Page.
    Your posts give me a headache.

  5. Then dont read them!!!!

  6. Quote Originally Posted by dirtysouthmuscl
    Then dont read them!!!!
    You know I was joking with you, right?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by yeahright
    I believe that is the case: That GL and ALRI reached some sort of arrangement whereby GL was let into the secret of how to produce authentic TRN (they indicated this when they first announced the product).
    Wasent there some mention that the "REAL / Original" TRN as NOT a libedo killer? IF thats the case, then something must be off, because for the week I took TRN, IT TOTALLY Killed my libedo- as in loosing hard-ons durring sex...

    So, if caused that effect in me (and I realize other results may vary) and the Methoxy-TRN doesn't kill your sex drive, something HAS to be different ...right??

  8. Man the KS M-TRN has me so jacked. As for Pepe!! His up 24/7 cant beat him down. LOL. So there must be something diff. Im 33 and I tell you im 3weeks in feeling like a beast!!!!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by dirtysouthmuscl
    Man the KS M-TRN has me so jacked. As for Pepe!! His up 24/7 cant beat him down. LOL. So there must be something diff. Im 33 and I tell you im 3weeks in feeling like a beast!!!!
    Out of curiosity, what dosage are you running it at??

    1 cap per day (3mg) or 2 per day (6 mg) and if you are running it at 2 per day, do you have any sides such as a blood pressure raise?

  10. No thank God my bp is good. After 17hd i just got my BP normal. But Im taking 2/3mg ad , and 6mg/ad of M-TST(BS). I take The M-TST in the morn w/breakfast and about an hr later then I take the M-TRN . I started to yawn alot when I took them at the same time. My next pill I take about 1hr b4 I workout.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by dirtysouthmuscl
    No thank God my bp is good. After 17hd i just got my BP normal. But Im taking 2/3mg ad , and 6mg/ad of M-TST(BS). I take The M-TST in the morn w/breakfast and about an hr later then I take the M-TRN . I started to yawn alot when I took them at the same time. My next pill I take about 1hr b4 I workout.
    I got the yawns from TRN as well on my TRN/Zol cycle. I am surprised you are able to run TRN at 6mg as thats when sides really set in for me and other board members. So you are on taking 2 caps per day (6mg) of Trenadrol by Kilo Sports?

  12. Yes , I was nervous about the yawns b/c I heard that was from lack of oxygen to the brain. But as soon as I put that hr in between Im fine. But there is a thread on here by author that say trn by Kilo is not real. Its s***. No one knows what it really is.

  13. Somewhere in Building the perfect beast ALRI talks about an upcoming product from HMgear called Primotren(they never released it). He said it is a deriative of 1-test. I wonder if this is really what M-TRN is ?

  14. I just did a quick search on HMGear and they were bought out by another company that is selling an herbal product that is supposed to increase free test while lowering estrogen and cortisol...hmmm, sounds a little familiar.

    Anyway, when people are saying that they got the yawns from TRN...is that accompanied by a lot of lethargy too?

  15. People do report lethargy and libidio loss. But some report increase in libidio. Need somebody who has taken both 1-test and M-trn to compare
    the two.

    ALRI's old add for (M-trn) said
    Due to Methoxy-TRN™ possessing a progestin structure etc

    I don't know if 1-test had a progestin structure?

    PA talking about 1ad
    In explaining what it does or how it works, some misconception has found its way into the reasoning. Again Patrick Arnold, who first likened its action to that of the steroid trenbolone (19-Nor-androsta-4,9,11-trien-3-one)

  16. Quote Originally Posted by dirtysouthmuscl
    Yes , I was nervous about the yawns b/c I heard that was from lack of oxygen to the brain. But as soon as I put that hr in between Im fine. But there is a thread on here by author that say trn by Kilo is not real. Its s***. No one knows what it really is.
    I think Author's post was misleading. It implied that all of the companies distributing the new designers are creating them in-house. In reality, I think most of the companies (maybe ALL) are importing the raws from China. So, it really comes down to how good their source is. Considering that you are getting the yawns from Trenadrol, I would assume that it is actually the same compound as Methoxy-TRN as I have never heard of this side from any other AAS. As far as the dosing goes, it may not actually be 3mg but who knows.

  17. I personally got some lethargy and libido loss from Mega-TRN BUT it took a few weeks to set in. Initially, there was more energy and libido.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by MattHines
    I personally got some lethargy and libido loss from Mega-TRN BUT it took a few weeks to set in. Initially, there was more energy and libido.
    Did you pyramid up the doseage or did you take the same amount all the way through?

    (I'm very interested in this product, but I'm saving it later)

  19. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas
    Did you pyramid up the doseage or did you take the same amount all the way through?

    (I'm very interested in this product, but I'm saving it later)
    Pyramid...started at 2mg for a couple weeks then 4mg for 2 weeks then 6mg on the last week. The sides hit hard on the last week. 4mg was the dose for me...it gave me excellent results and practically no sides. 6mg really set in the libido loss, lethargy and created a noticeable BP raise. I will probably run TRN again as it proudces good results with minimal sides if taken at the right dose. Next time I will run it at 4mg the whole time and probably stack it with TST, ZOL or something of the like.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by MattHines
    Pyramid...started at 2mg for a couple weeks then 4mg for 2 weeks then 6mg on the last week. The sides hit hard on the last week. 4mg was the dose for me...it gave me excellent results and practically no sides. 6mg really set in the libido loss, lethargy and created a noticeable BP raise. I will probably run TRN again as it proudces good results with minimal sides if taken at the right dose. Next time I will run it at 4mg the whole time and probably stack it with TST, ZOL or something of the like.
    Thanks. Your experiencs seem to be quite similar to what many others have reported. It seems that the 6mg mark really kicks in the sides. Did you pre-load any supps or use them while on and do you have your b4 and after stats?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas
    Thanks. Your experiencs seem to be quite similar to what many others have reported. It seems that the 6mg mark really kicks in the sides. Did you pre-load any supps or use them while on and do you have your b4 and after stats?
    I started a thread during PCT. To sum it up, I started at 185 pounds but had a lot of bodyfat and ended at the same weight, but wayyyy leaner. I did a cutter cycle of TRN/Zol for a total of 8 weeks and the two compounds were bridged.

  22. Thanks, I'll be sure to check that out.

  23. Ok ,after a discussion last night with a family member, I found out that not only do I/he have access to a mass spectromiter, but turns out he owns it, (paid for by grant money), and doesnt cost anything to run something through.
    Now, it's at a research facility on metabolic desieses, in another state then me, so mailing a sample could take a little while, plus, you have to make the substance volitile- and you kinda have to know a few things about what you are looking for to run the comparrisions.
    Im not all that familure with what is needed. I mean, I have actually used the machine before, and got a demo with the entire process last year.
    I guess, what Im asking, is what sort of information would I need to to give on TST that would help? Has anyone done these type of things before? Actually, Im not even sure as to the type of results that I'll get from this test. I know the output is in graph form, and the comparrision is to a database, so if this is a "new" substance, and not in a database, would any of the information gathered from this bennifit anyone?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas
    Thanks. Your experiencs seem to be quite similar to what many others have reported. It seems that the 6mg mark really kicks in the sides. Did you pre-load any supps or use them while on and do you have your b4 and after stats?

    6mg was the dose that did it to me too. I was already on cycle so had been taken hawthorne berry taurine milkthistle all the regular . My sides stopped a few days after stopping the trn

  25. Floss - Klaus would be the best one to ask about testing. I'm not good enough with analytics to tell you.

    Dr. D may be able to help too.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by xtraflossy
    Ok ,after a discussion last night with a family member, I found out that not only do I/he have access to a mass spectromiter, but turns out he owns it, (paid for by grant money), and doesnt cost anything to run something through.
    Now, it's at a research facility on metabolic desieses, in another state then me, so mailing a sample could take a little while, plus, you have to make the substance volitile- and you kinda have to know a few things about what you are looking for to run the comparrisions.
    Im not all that familure with what is needed. I mean, I have actually used the machine before, and got a demo with the entire process last year.
    I guess, what Im asking, is what sort of information would I need to to give on TST that would help? Has anyone done these type of things before? Actually, Im not even sure as to the type of results that I'll get from this test. I know the output is in graph form, and the comparrision is to a database, so if this is a "new" substance, and not in a database, would any of the information gathered from this bennifit anyone?

    I have no idea what the answers are to your questions but I'm bumping this because someone will.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by yeahright
    I have no idea what the answers are to your questions but I'm bumping this because someone will.
    Bumpity Bump! I'm starting my Trn/Tst/Trans 4AD tomorrow. It'd be nice to have some sort of idea of what I'm putting in my body.

  28. I doubt you'd have an answer by tomorrow even if he were to get instructions.

    Organic chem labs were stupidly long (he's doing some stuff that we did in class - only we "knew" the compound).

  29. Quote Originally Posted by jmh80
    I doubt you'd have an answer by tomorrow even if he were to get instructions.

    Organic chem labs were stupidly long (he's doing some stuff that we did in class - only we "knew" the compound).
    Yeah- I knew we wouldn't have an answer by tomorrow- It'd just be nice to know. I'm gonna ingest whatever it is......and get freakin great gains. Later-

    Bye the way Jmh how's your weight doing? Where are you at? Anymore crazy work schedules? Those were jacked up especially on.

  30. No more crazy sh*t. I just get beat on by the elders....

    I haven't weighted myself in a few days - will do tomorrow morning. But, early this week I was still at 170 lbs.

    The Powerfull/V-12 Turbo/Rebound Reloaded/DHEA-bAET-7-OH-7 oxo transdermal/nettle root/Retain stack is really starting to kick in!
    (AKA the Kitchin Sink - because I make too much money and don't spend it on anything but food, bills, and supps)

    Had a great leg workout just now (except for knee pain during lunges - I had to stop).

    The only issue is "the squirts" initially with the V-12 turbo. I think I'm going to see if Xceed may help (by taking it pre-WO and V-12 post-WO).

    Thanks for asking Sea223. Good to see folks still read my logs.
  

  
 

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