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We have a pretty nice gym at my work it's got dumbbells up to 100s with adjustable benches, a flat bench, two power racks, a cable machine, preacher curl(not machine) and cables too. As you can imagine I do a lot of compound movements, the only thing I don't really like about it is there is no real good place for calves but I make due with elevating my feet on something and holding 90s or 100s.

No smith machine but I don't really like using them anyway if I can avoid it, I'd rather do the movements you can do on them compound or in a power rack.

Thanks man, yeah I miss the desert the gym there was great. Wish you were here still, miss the good ol' days.

Oh yeah also I found someone for now who is gonna work out with me they did shoulders with me yesterday and it was great. Did some sick dropsetting on bb shoulder press felt awesome. Pumps are crazy :) Hopefully workout partner sticks around.
Nice im in a desert country is why i ask.... it rhymes with Afghanistan lol. Sick gym where im at. Way better than 09
 
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Day 19/20 - Wed/Thurs

SD: 30mg/30mg
Workout: Back and bis/Shoulders
PRs: None
Weight: 189
Notes: Weight is holding up at 189 fasted in morning, about 192 before bed. Feeling very confident I'll be able to hit 195-200 by the end of this cycle even if the gains slow down(which I'm assuming they will). I'm all out bulking till I hit at least 210 though no matter what happens on this cycle, and it's going well so far! Back pumps were still horrible on Wed, but pulled 365 at least, I should've went for 385 but jumped the gun and tried 405 and failed. Probably could've gotten 385 if I would have went for that first but wasted all my energy trying to pull 405. People have been commenting on how big I am now a lot, no accusations of use though. Don't think I'm going to bump test up to 750 after SD, was thinking about it before but will probably stay at 500. Maybe if I decide to extend the cycle out to 16 weeks later though... who knows.
 
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Nice im in a desert country is why i ask.... it rhymes with Afghanistan lol. Sick gym where im at. Way better than 09
Ah I'm in the UK right now, I didn't go to the "real" desert lol I was in UAE when I went a couple years back. More like a vacation than a deployment, still hot enough to consider it a part of hell though.
 
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It's saturday, gonna be doing 250mg test e in left delt(lateral) today. Leg day is moving to monday from now on by request of my new workout partner. I'm also debating switching back to five days a week and hitting arms seperate from everything else again. My left shoulder has been acting up(have always had issues with it) so I'll be watching that. I've been doing heavy lateral raises trying to get some more size on the side delts, not sure if this is the culprit for the shoulder pain or pressing movements. It's hard to tell because I have no pain in the gym only later, most noticeable when I'm trying to sleep.
 
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Probably a bad idea but not sure so thought I'd bring it up. I've always had problems with my left shoulder, and some other less bothersome knee and elbow issues(just wear wraps or brace and those are good). I was wondering if it would be a good idea, or if it would even help, if I ran a low dose of deca. Like maybe 200-300mg a week. I can get some for a pretty reasonable price and run it through the end of the cycle from when I get it. My worry about it would be the sides since I've heard you should have caber and prami on hand when running deca, but not sure if it's even a worry at all with a low dose like that. Thoughts?
 
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Hitting legs today, weight is at 191 :)

Also I've been eating like crap and not meeting my macro goals(calories good, but P/C/F not where I want them) so I've decided to make a meal plan. Going to try to put one together today while I'm at work. My wife and I talked about it and we both think it would be easier to shop and get everything right if I had a meal plan. I'm going to go for 6 meals a day at about 700 calories a meal.
 
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Late but in...this is some good stuff!
 
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Day 24 - Monday

SD: 30mg
Workout: Legs
PRs: None
Weight: 191
Notes: Gettin' bigger! Hit 365 on squats today with knee wraps, did 315 for 4 without wraps. Close to my previous PR of 385, I feel confident I'll be squattin' 405 for a new PR soon! Also put together a meal plan today :) as follows:

Meal 1 - 690cal, 33p/70c/32f

4 whole eggs
2 packets quaker oatmeal


Meal 2 - 700cal, 56p/22c/43f

16oz whole milk with 2 scoops protein, 2tbsp olive oil


Meal 3 - 660cal, 56p/82c/8f

2 4oz chicken breast
2 cups white rice


Meal 4 - 830cal, 34p/144c/16f

Starkist Albacore Lunch to Go
1 cup sweet potatoes
1 Granny Smith Apple
1 Clif Bar

Meal 5 - 640cal, 50p/82c/14f

2 4oz Tilapia Fillets
2 cups white rice

Meal 6 - 440cal, 32p/50c/12f

1 can roadhouse chili

TOTAL: 3960cal, 261p/452c/125f

I'm on a swing shift so I'll be eating meal 1 and 2 before work, 3-5 at work, and 6 when I get off. I think I did pretty well for my first ever meal plan. This fits the macros I want to have though and I think I can easily stomach eating this every day, also it should be easy to tweak if I ever want to change something up.

EDIT: Will be shopping sometime this week after which point meal plan will begin.
 
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Day 25 - Tuesday

Test E: 250mg
SD: 30mg
Workout: Chest
PRs: BB Flat Bench - 275x1
Weight: 191
Notes: Holy crap! Hadn't maxed since January because I haven't had a spotter, I'm pretty shocked that I was able to get 275, that's 30lbs over my old max. I did 255 at first and was like "hm, that was really easy" so moved up. Not mixing in arms on chest and back anymore I'll be doing 5 days a week now, the four day routine was just a trial and I decided I like having my separate arms day more than having an extra day off. Also left shoulder has been pretty bad, woke up the other night with a constant pain had to take some ibuprofen so I could sleep without waking up 50 times. I've been putting icy hot on it and trying not to use it during work and day to day stuff. I'm also going to reduce ROM on BB shoulder presses and pec flys(those are the only exercises that actually hurt at all) and I'll be going lighter on some exercises(for instance went light on everything but flat bench for chest).
 
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Also libido has been through the roof for the past couple weeks, like I feel like I'm a high schooler again. I get uncontrollable boners from hell on a daily basis, I'm attacking the wife on the regular with a vengeance lol.
 
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Also libido has been through the roof for the past couple weeks, like I feel like I'm a high schooler again. I get uncontrollable boners from hell on a daily basis, I'm attacking the wife on the regular with a vengeance lol.
Try some tren ace next time, **** makes me horny as hell, wanting sex all the time. It's like shooting Viagra straight into your veins. It's ****ing awesome.
 
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Holy Chirst... I leave this site for a year and this is what I come back to? No offense -- I'm sure you're a great guy -- but you have absolutely no business messing with this **** (SD/Test). You're so far off from your genetic potential it's ridiculous. People SHOULD NOT sit back and not comment on someone with this physique stacking such serious anabolics.

The fact that you've already done a cycle and your body is where it's at tells me that you have A LOT to learn about both lifting and nutrition. You can take all the drugs in the world, but you are never going to get where you want to be until you have mastered your nutrition.

You are running such huge health risks by doing this why? Because you're too lazy to learn how to get anywhere near your actual potential without drugs.

I have nothing against cycles -- in the PROPER circumstances, i.e. when someone has hit their limit. See my side pic? That's natty and it's leaps and bounds from where you will be at the end of your cycle. You have a long ways to go my friend.
 
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Holy Chirst... I leave this site for a year and this is what I come back to? No offense -- I'm sure you're a greta guy -- but you have absolutely no business messing with this **** (SD/Test). You're so far off from your genetic potential it's ridiculous. People SHOULD NOT sit back and not comment on someone with this physique stacking such serious anabolics.

The fact that you've already done a cycle and your body is where it's at tells me that you have A LOT to learn about both lifting and nutrition. You can take all the drugs in the world, but you are never going to get where you want to be until you have mastered your nutrition.

You are running such huge health risks by doing this why? Because you're too lazy to learn how to get anywhere near your actual potential without drugs.

I have nothing against cycles -- in the PROPER circumstances, i.e. when someone has hit their limit. See my side pic? That's natty and it's leaps and bounds from where you will be at the end of your cycle. You have a long ways to go my friend.
BOO! quit h8tin' brah. yes, you have great abs but your personality leaves something to be desired.
 
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BOO! quit h8tin' brah. yes, you have great abs but your personality leaves something to be desired.
Steroids are what you use when you have met your maximum natural potential. Would you feed a gallon of Everclear to someone who has never been drunk and wants a little buzz?
 
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Holy Chirst... I leave this site for a year and this is what I come back to? No offense -- I'm sure you're a great guy -- but you have absolutely no business messing with this **** (SD/Test). You're so far off from your genetic potential it's ridiculous. People SHOULD NOT sit back and not comment on someone with this physique stacking such serious anabolics.

The fact that you've already done a cycle and your body is where it's at tells me that you have A LOT to learn about both lifting and nutrition. You can take all the drugs in the world, but you are never going to get where you want to be until you have mastered your nutrition.

You are running such huge health risks by doing this why? Because you're too lazy to learn how to get anywhere near your actual potential without drugs.

I have nothing against cycles -- in the PROPER circumstances, i.e. when someone has hit their limit. See my side pic? That's natty and it's leaps and bounds from where you will be at the end of your cycle. You have a long ways to go my friend.
You know, that's the great thing about being an individual in this crazy world of ours. We get to make our own decisions, live our own lives, reap the benefits of good choices and learn from the bad ones. You have your views and opinions and that's just fine by the rest of the world, you're entitled to them. But just because they are right for you, doesn't mean they are right for everybody. Because believe it or not, everybody else may not agree with you. Now the OP has obviously done his research and got the "go ahead" from members of this community who probably have a lot more experience and knowledge about such things than even you. WE are here to offer a fellow brother our support because we all know the kind of dedication this way of life takes, support is a necessity. So you can lend positive encouragement if it's within you to do so, or you can go preach your elitism elsewhere. But I'm sure the positive encouragement would be more appreciated.
 
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Holy Chirst... I leave this site for a year and this is what I come back to? No offense -- I'm sure you're a great guy -- but you have absolutely no business messing with this **** (SD/Test). You're so far off from your genetic potential it's ridiculous. People SHOULD NOT sit back and not comment on someone with this physique stacking such serious anabolics.

The fact that you've already done a cycle and your body is where it's at tells me that you have A LOT to learn about both lifting and nutrition. You can take all the drugs in the world, but you are never going to get where you want to be until you have mastered your nutrition.

You are running such huge health risks by doing this why? Because you're too lazy to learn how to get anywhere near your actual potential without drugs.

I have nothing against cycles -- in the PROPER circumstances, i.e. when someone has hit their limit. See my side pic? That's natty and it's leaps and bounds from where you will be at the end of your cycle. You have a long ways to go my friend.
actually. im thinking about this cycle to
 
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Steroids are what you use when you have met your maximum natural potential. Would you feed a gallon of Everclear to someone who has never been drunk and wants a little buzz?
Your heart may be in the right place, but your perspective is way off. This is not a heavy cycle by any means. Personally, if I was in the OP's situation I'd run more test, but he's being conservative.

As for the booze comparison, I wouldn't serve an elephant a gallon of everclear. 4 weeks of SD is way easier on the liver than 8 weeks of winny, or 2 weeks of ibuprofen.



Congrats on your abs btw (not being sarcastic)
 
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You know, that's the great thing about being an individual in this crazy world of ours. We get to make our own decisions, live our own lives, reap the benefits of good choices and learn from the bad ones. You have your views and opinions and that's just fine by the rest of the world, you're entitled to them. But just because they are right for you, doesn't mean they are right for everybody. Because believe it or not, everybody else may not agree with you. Now the OP has obviously done his research and got the "go ahead" from members of this community who probably have a lot more experience and knowledge about such things than even you. WE are here to offer a fellow brother our support because we all know the kind of dedication this way of life takes, support is a necessity. So you can lend positive encouragement if it's within you to do so, or you can go preach your elitism elsewhere. But I'm sure the positive encouragement would be more appreciated.
Fair enough. And yes, I support individual choices of course. I'm not preaching elistism by any means though. In the time since my side pic, I have cycled. I have no issues with it.

The fact is that the original poster is NOT at a place physically or nutritionally where this is appropriate. All the risks aside, the results he'll get will not be even remotely worth it because he clearly does not understand proper lifting or nutrition principles. That's more than evident from the pictures.

We should be encouraging knowledge on this board. That's why I've always come back here, because it has a tradition of being better than all those other terrible forums. The last thing I want to see is people preaching "Yeah bra, get some test cyp and you'll go from 155 lbs to jacked in no time!!!" like so many other boards.
 
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Fair enough. And yes, I support individual choices of course. I'm not preaching elistism by any means though. In the time since my side pic, I have cycled. I have no issues with it.

The fact is that the original poster is NOT at a place physically or nutritionally where this is appropriate. All the risks aside, the results he'll get will not be even remotely worth it because he clearly does not understand proper lifting or nutrition principles. That's more than evident from the pictures.

We should be encouraging knowledge on this board. That's why I've always come back here, because it has a tradition of being better than all those other terrible forums. The last thing I want to see is people preaching "Yeah bra, get some test cyp and you'll go from 155 lbs to jacked in no time!!!" like so many other boards.
Isn't it up to him to decide what's "worth it"? He's already decided that at this point in his life he wants to increase his improvement potential. And he's smart enough to know that when entering the unknown, you surrounded yourself with people who DO know and CAN give you the knowledge you need to succeed. And I'm not calling it elitism because I don't think you condone the use of AAS, but because you're taking a position of opinion that states you know what's better for someone you don't even know than they do for themselves. And the only person that can truly determine that is him. Now I've seen a lot of people get bashed for wanting to get on the juice when they obviously weren't ready for it, sometimes people are genuine in their concern for the poster's well-being and other times people take the elitist stand point and want to come across as high and mighty because they know so much more and are so much more experienced and the poster is just an idiot. Maybe you're coming from a place of concern or maybe from a place of arrogance. I'm thinking it's more the former. So stick around and help a brotha out. There may be others who could learn from your experience and knowledge...as you stated, that's what these boards are for.
 
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I will have to catch up on this all later,but looks good from last bit I have read,keep it up!I am running a similar cycle and loving it so far!
 
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Isn't it up to him to decide what's "worth it"? He's already decided that at this point in his life he wants to increase his improvement potential. And he's smart enough to know that when entering the unknown, you surrounded yourself with people who DO know and CAN give you the knowledge you need to succeed. And I'm not calling it elitism because I don't think you condone the use of AAS, but because you're taking a position of opinion that states you know what's better for someone you don't even know than they do for themselves. And the only person that can truly determine that is him. Now I've seen a lot of people get bashed for wanting to get on the juice when they obviously weren't ready for it, sometimes people are genuine in their concern for the poster's well-being and other times people take the elitist stand point and want to come across as high and mighty because they know so much more and are so much more experienced and the poster is just an idiot. Maybe you're coming from a place of concern or maybe from a place of arrogance. I'm thinking it's more the former. So stick around and help a brotha out. There may be others who could learn from your experience and knowledge...as you stated, that's what these boards are for.
We may not agree on this issue man, but I gotta say, I really appreciate you stating your opinion in such a civil way. I will definitely be around to support wherever I can and get help on my journey as well!
 
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We may not agree on this issue man, but I gotta say, I really appreciate you stating your opinion in such a civil way. I will definitely be around to support wherever I can and get help on my journey as well!
Right on...I have no problem with disagreeing, it's actually a big part of my job lol. And I'm glad to see you'll stick around because when I was talking about others being able to learn from your knowledge, yeah, I was mostly speaking of myself. ;-)

Now...about those abs.
 
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Right on...I have no problem with disagreeing, it's actually a big part of my job lol. And I'm glad to see you'll stick around because when I was talking about others being able to learn from your knowledge, yeah, I was mostly speaking of myself. ;-)

Now...about those abs.
I have a very bad habit of arguing... I'm an attorney. *ducks for cover*

My abs aren't so hot these days. Work and stress got to me, but I'm back in the swing of things so I'll be back to update my progress. Going to keep pushing this thing until I'm another Alberto Nunez.
 
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I have a very bad habit of arguing... I'm an attorney. *ducks for cover*

My abs aren't so hot these days. Work and stress got to me, but I'm back in the swing of things so I'll be back to update my progress. Going to keep pushing this thing until I'm another Alberto Nunez.
I'm definitely in on that thread if you're going to log it. Sometimes life happens and things aren't as ideal as we'd like them to be. The hard part is realizing that we can do something about it, and then DOING something about it. I've slowly worked up to that point but am full-blown motivated now thanks to this community. I'm 35 and am determined to make the most of my youthful years while I have them.
 
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Owlicks, I feel comfortable saying that your goals are not shared by the majority of the steroid using community. I highly doubt that SP is trying to compete.
 
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Wow, thread derail a little?
Anyways SP don't let that stuff get to you. I know a tiny bit of what you've been through and where you started, keep it up.
 
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Don't let this negativity get you down, keep smashing these weights brother.
 
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Haters gonna hate, I'm gonna keep pushing. About 4 years ago I was a scrawny 120lbs and I built about 50lbs naturally and I got to a point where after researching I felt comfortable doing a cycle, that's my choice I'm a grown man. Thanks to the people who backed me up. Anyway Wednesday was my birthday and I had a great back workout!

Day 26 - Wednesday

SD: 30mg
Workout: Back
PRs: Deadlift - 425x1
Weight: 191
Notes: Pulled 425 pretty easily, form wasn't 100% but wasn't horrible either. Pretty typical of a first time DL max I think. Killed back it's really sore still now.
 
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Day 27 - Thursday

SD: 30mg
Workout: Arms
PRs: None
Weight: Not recorded
Notes: Best arm workout I have had in a LONG time. Tried out an FST-7 style workout for the first time with bis and tris(did 2 exercises for bis, 2 for tris each 4 sets then did cable curls for 7 sets of 8-12 and pushdowns for 7 sets of 8-12) it was the best pump I think I've ever had. Very awesome definitely going to try it out on my other workouts. FST-7 may become a permanent part of my routine :)
 

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Interested and subbed! May not post often but will definitely keep reading!
Happy belated birthday btw!
 
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Day 27 - Thursday

SD: 30mg
Workout: Arms
PRs: None
Weight: Not recorded
Notes: Best arm workout I have had in a LONG time. Tried out an FST-7 style workout for the first time with bis and tris(did 2 exercises for bis, 2 for tris each 4 sets then did cable curls for 7 sets of 8-12 and pushdowns for 7 sets of 8-12) it was the best pump I think I've ever had. Very awesome definitely going to try it out on my other workouts. FST-7 may become a permanent part of my routine :)
Yeah man FST is awesome, forces so much blood into the muscle. During your rest periods of your 7 sets try flexing for a rest then stretch for a rest. It's painful but awesome :)
 
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Yeah man FST is awesome, forces so much blood into the muscle. During your rest periods of your 7 sets try flexing for a rest then stretch for a rest. It's painful but awesome :)
Will definitely try this.


Day 29 - Saturday

Test E: 250mg
SD: 30mg
Workout: Shoulders
PRs: Seated BB Sh Press - 185x1
BB Shrugs - 315x4​
Weight: Not recorded
Notes: Great workout, my shoulder does seem to be a little better than a week ago but I'm fairly certain it's an impingement. Only exercises it actually ever hurts on are pec flys and lateral raises, and only if I go heavy. So on those exercises I'll probably start going very light for high reps. Did machine shoulder presses for FST-7 today which was awesome, best shoulder pumps I've ever had felt like boulders lol. I actually wanted to do machine laterals for FST because I need bigger side delts but where I can do DB laterals light with no pain, I can't do machine laterals at all it hurts no matter what so thought it better to avoid them. Also today is the last day of SD.
 
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PROGRESS! Taken in better lighting than earlier pics as well:

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Stomach is definitely looking soft, planning on increasing cardio to hopefully prevent too much fat gain. Also before I was planning on just keeping my arimidex handy in case I had any estro sides but I've decided I'm going to dose it Mon, Wed, Fri at .5 for prevention instead now that the SD isn't going to be drying me out anymore.

Weight is still at 191, hoping to see steady gains through the last 2 months, of course not expecting as much as during the SD.

Also was forced to switch shifts at work so now lost my workout partner that I only had for one week, but at least I set a bench PR during that week! I may have another person I can workout with on this shift but he hasn't been going to the gym lately so we'll see if I can get him off his lazy a$$.
 
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Day 31 - Monday

SD: 30mg
Workout: Legs
PRs: None
Weight: 191
Notes: Keeping things fairly moderate for a little bit, left shoulder is killing me I may go to the dr and get it looked at since this has been an on and off problem for pretty much as long as I've lifted. I can't imagine them telling me to do anything other than take a week or two off the gym and take Xmg of ibuprofen though. I'm guessing it's because of the quick strength gains on cycle but it does always seem to get worse when I'm on.

It's tuesday today, pinned 250 in left glute, hardest spot such a pain. Off day tuesday now, but will be working out friday to make up for it.
 
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super, wheres drizzil ?
He's going to school right now, last time I talked to him he said he's not sure if he's ever gonna run a cycle again. He's still hittin' the gym though, all leaned up.
 
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This week hasn't been going very well, I've been out of the gym because of appointments and getting work done on my car, not anticipated. Try to hit everything I missed light on the weekend at least, it's probably good for my shoulder to have this longer rest though and then get back at it so I'm not gonna sweat it. Monday I have an annual dr appointment so I'll bring up my shoulder so I can find out how serious this is, but I think I'm gonna be alright it seems a little better now than last weekend.
 
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This week hasn't been going very well, I've been out of the gym because of appointments and getting work done on my car, not anticipated. Try to hit everything I missed light on the weekend at least, it's probably good for my shoulder to have this longer rest though and then get back at it so I'm not gonna sweat it. Monday I have an annual dr appointment so I'll bring up my shoulder so I can find out how serious this is, but I think I'm gonna be alright it seems a little better now than last weekend.
youll b good bro. prolly just been going too animal at the gym.
 

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I feel your pain on the shoulder probs bro. You'll get through it and be better for it. I'm pullin for you holmes.
 
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Get it looked into. Couldn't hurt any and its free. You never know if one of the ligaments be damaged or something else going on with supraspinatus, infraspintas, teres minor, subscapularis etc.

Just seen and heard of a lot of issues people didn't know they had. Minor issues being something more.

Hoping for the best though
 
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Pinned left glute today, getting better at it but still hard to pin using only my left hand. Tried reaching around my back with right hand but couldn't reach. Also I don't know if I'm tensing up or what but it takes a lot of pressure to break skin with the needle whenever I do glutes(1" 25g).
 

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Pinned left glute today, getting better at it but still hard to pin using only my left hand. Tried reaching around my back with right hand but couldn't reach. Also I don't know if I'm tensing up or what but it takes a lot of pressure to break skin with the needle whenever I do glutes(1" 25g).
quality muscle is pretty hard to penetrate, i have the same issue pinning my quads.
those buns of steel doe! no homo lol
 
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You aren't running an AI during your cycle?
Originally I wasnt going to unless I got estro sides but after I finished SD I decided better safe than sorry and im running Adex .5 MWF through the duration.
 
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I'm running, almost, the exact same cycle except using TEST-C at a 400mg per week. Am curious have you found itself easily agitated or angered more than normal? I sure have.
 
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I'm running, almost, the exact same cycle except using TEST-C at a 400mg per week. Am curious have you found itself easily agitated or angered more than normal? I sure have.
Not really, maybe a little in week 3 and 4 of the SD but I've also had some stress with a few personal things lately so its hard to say.
 

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Originally I wasnt going to unless I got estro sides but after I finished SD I decided better safe than sorry and im running Adex .5 MWF through the duration.
So you started your AI at week 5? I am also planning on running my first cycle and I'm doing Superdrol 1-4 and Test E 1-12. I'm going to run Aromasin 10mg EOD throughout my whole cycle 1-12. Good luck on the rest of your cycle.
 
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So you started your AI at week 5? I am also planning on running my first cycle and I'm doing Superdrol 1-4 and Test E 1-12. I'm going to run Aromasin 10mg EOD throughout my whole cycle 1-12. Good luck on the rest of your cycle.
There's no point in running an AI if you are running SD, the SD will dry you out.

Good luck on your cycle too bro :)
 

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