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I thought he said no letters were sent out to you or anyone from bb.com. So were letters with "promise" notes sent? Promise what? No to say anything about Craze they disagree with, strike that, they deem is untrue.they are not trying to sue me, at least not at this moment. they just dont want me saying things untrue and inaccurate about their product and they want me to sign a promise note. and i dont have any problem with that!!
I haven't either, at least not something recently that comes to mind. The odd thing is that people on both sides are very aggressive about it (and I don't mean people with real vested interests, I mean average users) for some reason. It's either (pro-craze) stop talking negatively about any experiences or wondering about the product or (anti-craze) quit acting as if you've had positive experiences with the product because it made me loopy.Very true. The comparisons with other supplements, such as caffeine, to demonstrate they too have varying effects on individuals are not valid. I've not come across any other supplement that has had such a strong adverse reaction on such a large proportion of users.
I think it's the best pre workout since the Orange stuff and hot stuff back in late 80s or early 90s. Haha, we were buying GHB off the shelf to help getter better sleep and GH production at night back then. Fun times. That being said, Craze made me tweak like a cracked out moron and I had no clue about it until wife started asking me what the heck was wrong with me. Haha, I had no clue and then when she pointed it out, I asked a few others who said yep I was acting strange and twitching. Be okay I guess if I didn't have to be in front if people all the time to do my job. Fact is, we are probably better off taking the stuff back in the late 80s than the God knows what analog loop hole stuff.I haven't either, at least not something recently that comes to mind. The odd thing is that people on both sides are very aggressive about it (and I don't mean people with real vested interests, I mean average users) for some reason. It's either (pro-craze) stop talking negatively about any experiences or wondering about the product or (anti-craze) quit acting as if you've had positive experiences with the product because it made me loopy.
However to deny that at best the product seems to be; "you better try it and see how it effects you because user results are all over the map" just strikes me as odd and I'm not sure why big fans of the product choose to go this route.
You remember that stuff from back in the day tooI think it's the best pre workout since the Orange stuff and hot stuff back in late 80s or early 90s. Haha, we were buying GHB off the shelf to help getter better sleep and GH production at night back then. Fun times. That being said, Craze made me tweak like a cracked out moron and I had no clue about it until wife started asking me what the heck was wrong with me. Haha, I had no clue and then when she pointed it out, I asked a few others who said yep I was acting strange and twitching. Be okay I guess if I didn't have to be in front if people all the time to do my job. Fact is, we are probably better off taking the stuff back in the late 80s than the God knows what analog loop hole stuff.
but neuron is a smart rabble rousing jerkBut pa didn't test this himself, for the good of the community. Pa tested a sample sent to him by a rabble rousing jerk who has spouted off less and accusations regularly at any company he doesn't like for whatever reason.
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letter from DS attorneys. saying dont say anything untrue or derogatory or inaccurate about the product. now i thought i pretty much have been doing that up until this point but i will try harder from now on cuz i dont want to upset anyoneI thought he said no letters were sent out to you or anyone from bb.com. So were letters with "promise" notes sent? Promise what? No to say anything about Craze they disagree with, strike that, they deem is untrue.
What the hell was that about? Who is Mattcough cough when someone brings up matts "integrity" i think of this
That is from previous debacles involving the people running DS.What the hell was that about? Who is Matt
Same here.....I felt I had taken an ecstacy tablet...seriously...I was sat there smiling and grinding my jaw until the come down and boy was the come down bad! 24 hours of non-stop anxiety!! The intensity of positive or the negative experience could explain why individuals have such polar views on it.I think it's the best pre workout since the Orange stuff and hot stuff back in late 80s or early 90s. Haha, we were buying GHB off the shelf to help getter better sleep and GH production at night back then. Fun times. That being said, Craze made me tweak like a cracked out moron and I had no clue about it until wife started asking me what the heck was wrong with me. Haha, I had no clue and then when she pointed it out, I asked a few others who said yep I was acting strange and twitching. Be okay I guess if I didn't have to be in front if people all the time to do my job. Fact is, we are probably better off taking the stuff back in the late 80s than the God knows what analog loop hole stuff.
CoolDitto. He's been a straight shooter for as long as ive known him.
Yeah, since 2004. Been a long time. What you can sell today is a lot different than back then. Definitely a different world.Cool
wow sandusky i cant believe u got internet accessSo much DS hate makes me sad
Why can't everyone be happy, and people forgot old scandals, and craze be made with benign ingredients, and phs don't hurt your organs...
...that's the world I someday want to live in...
Same here.....I felt I had taken an ecstacy tablet...seriously...I was sat there smiling and grinding my jaw until the come down and boy was the come down bad! 24 hours of non-stop anxiety!! The intensity of positive or the negative experience could explain why individuals have such polar views on it.
Yeah, since 2004. Been a long time. What you can sell today is a lot different than back then. Definitely a different world.
Hahahai wanna know the peeps u dealed with who were not straight shooters.
In this industry? List is too long.i wanna know the peeps u dealed with who were not straight shooters.
I still have a couple of bottles of some of those thingsYeah, since 2004. Been a long time. What you can sell today is a lot different than back then. Definitely a different world.
Lolol I live an hour away from penn state and I'm right around the age of the victims...thinking of claims myself as a victim...maybe get in on this billion dollar law suit haha I'd gladly give you a donation to epharm haha when I see you at Arnold again I'll bring you a sample of craze to try for those long work dayswow sandusky i cant believe u got internet access
It was a joke, sir...I meant no harm by it.wow sandusky i cant believe u got internet access
can you post results of all the lots then? should be readily available at your disposal
I do have all the lots I believe. want to confirm what I am taking
I am sure someone else want to see all the lots results
See above.The lot number listed on the label of the bottle that i received from Neuron was not this lot number. It was 1110274
You got to be kidding me.I think it's the best pre workout since the Orange stuff and hot stuff back in late 80s or early 90s. Haha, we were buying GHB off the shelf to help getter better sleep and GH production at night back then. Fun times. That being said, Craze made me tweak like a cracked out moron and I had no clue about it until wife started asking me what the heck was wrong with me. Haha, I had no clue and then when she pointed it out, I asked a few others who said yep I was acting strange and twitching. Be okay I guess if I didn't have to be in front if people all the time to do my job. Fact is, we are probably better off taking the stuff back in the late 80s than the God knows what analog loop hole stuff.
Yeah, I used to like the stuff with Ephedra back in the day. Nice mellow warm intense feeling.You got to be kidding me.
I have a bottle of the original run of Craze and it does nothing like that to me.
I add Ephedrine to all my pre-workouts these days...
can't wait to try for sure. Good news though, although I honestly could care less if they toss some meth/adderall in there though.They just came out with a pink lemonade that tastes a lot better
Are you calling me a lier? You seriously calling me a lier. Lame.Wow that post takes ignorant to a whole new level.
My friend is allergic to Banana's, I didn't believe him though so I force fed him 5 Banana's.
He said they tasted great, then his face started to mutate and he died.
Look, We are all different, how do you know this guy you speak of didn't have mental health issues or some other crazy brain condition which reacted funny with Craze, that is ofcourse if you aren't completely making this up which it sounds like you are.
I've used Craze, 3 scoops being my max dosage.
I absolutely love the stuff, I've hit personal bests with it and it gave me insane, insane confidence.
I've also given some to 2 of my gym friends, and another guy at work.
The 2 gym friends loved it and asked me to buy some for them, the guy at work is a bit of a fat waster and I wanted him to go all hyperactive in work, I gave him 2 scoops and he said he didn't feel a thing.
Everyone is different. To be as absolute as you have is completely retarded.
What's a lier?Are you calling me a lier? You seriously calling me a lier. Lame.
I'm saying your friend was crazy without the craze.My x friend was on it and went crazy or would snap. I trust PA?after I saw what my x friend went threw I wouldn't recommend it to my clients.
His point is that you're x friend's reaction to craze is not typical.Are you calling me a lier? You seriously calling me a lier. Lame.
People react differently to powerful stimulants...and different ones have different effects. For instance, craze usually puts me in a good mood...but it does tend to cause some anxiety at times. 1,3 tends to make me feel angry/aggressive. His friend may not be crazy, but craze put him in a more agitated state.What's a lier?
I'm saying your friend was crazy without the craze.
Ya get me? :33:
You obviously don't work for a living.....If u need stimulants to get a workout in then your weak minded. Preworkouts that contain a bunch of stimulants is for lames
or old guys who work long days.If u need stimulants to get a workout in then your weak minded. Preworkouts that contain a bunch of stimulants is for lames
I'm a welder. Use your head more than having stimulants get u up to work out, I convince and push myself to go out and do what I want to do. I do take supplements to help me perform better but not no crack mix to get me startedYou obviously don't work for a living.....
I can understand a older person eventho a product loaded with stimulants wouldn't be the healthiest thing to take but for us young guys is wack. I remember I was addicted to preworkouts loaded with stims to the point if I didn't have any I wouldn't work out or feel I wouldn't be strong enough to perform without it. I realized what it was doing to me wasent healthy so I vowed to never take a stimulant again to push me to go to the gym and I feel my best ever I'm more mentally strong and now I know it's just me doing it not the help of crack juiceor old guys who work long days.
My shortest days are 10+ hours and I have on more than one occasion had 36+ hour days that I would go to the gym after. You do that too?I'm a welder. Use your head more than having stimulants get u up to work out, I convince and push myself to go out and do what I want to do. I do take supplements to help me perform better but not no crack mix to get me started
I believe so, brotha. I'll go get the sample cups and then we'll test the urine for N-benzyl-2-phenylethylamine.Has this turned into pissing contest?
I wouldn't know about overtime as I don't receive it. My point was that not everyone's situations are the same and there are days, at least for me, that a little caffeine really helps me to have a good workout after long days.I work 12 hour shifts 6 days a week gotta love that overtime money
I don't use craze nor was I seeking your blessing. I was simply pointing out that you should not judge others based on your personal beliefs. We are not all the same as you and not all of us have had problems with stims.K ill give u permission to take craze before work outs without judging u