Rather than start a new thread, since I'm gonna keep this going at least until pct is done, I'll ask it here. What is the normal protocol for trying to get rid of existing gyro? I don't think its a major case, you can look for yourself at my chest in those 2 pics. but for years I've had severe pain if i get any kind of contact with my nipples, i.e. catching a football against my chest or something. its like a real quick jolt of sharp pain. other than that i don't think its very noticeable visually, maybe a little puffy at times. I did a test/deca cycle about ten years ago, followed up with nolva, but before then i had used a lot of PHs with no real pct. before flaming me just keep in mind it was over a decade ago and i didn't know the deal, hind sight is 20/20. But Mag10, M1T, and a couple of the original andros, all used without any kind of pct. Just trying to give you guys an idea on what might be the cause, if you're gonna comment jus tot say how dumb that was, please keep it to yourself. I asked this on here because the guys on this thread are knowledgeable and I'd like to get your input. would surgery be the only cure or possibly Arimidex or something?