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I do full doses of both following the instructions on the bottle.
Might be overkill, but works well for me.
Might be overkill, but works well for me.
Good deal man!
This would be your best bet, 1 version oral with 1 version TD. As we offer both Ep1c Unleashed and Str3ngth/DermaStr3ngth in both formats, you could do either way.Anyone who has stacked TD Epic with DermaStrength?
Is it too much topical to aplicate? (Like full dose 2 pump each)
Maybe easier to use oral Epic with DStrength?
Already been said (1 TD + 1 oral),Anyone who has stacked TD Epic with DermaStrength?
Is it too much topical to aplicate? (Like full dose 2 pump each)
Maybe easier to use oral Epic with DStrength?
I'm thinking PCT here.
How should you do it;
DStrength+ArA+Cardarine for 4 weeks and switch to Epic Unleashed when coming off Cardarine.
Or just stack em all right from the start
My thought exactly so this will be the way to go .Already been said (1 TD + 1 oral),
BUT...
I will throw in that I personally like Laxo in transdermal form. So if it was me I'd go Ep1C Unleashed oral and DERMAStr3ngth for the TD. All the best man. Let us know how it goes!
(-)epi is anti inflammatory as well just to give u a heads up.Anyone see a problem with the green tea interfering with ARA? Have read that green tea's can be anti inflammatory. Im currently stacking folli and x gels but want to switch over to epic unleashed as the reviews warrant the gamble. But don't want it to interfere with my ARA
I was going to switch to epic unleashed but only if it didn't mess up my ara run(-)epi is anti inflammatory as well just to give u a heads up.
It is generally thought that dosing (-)epi, or green tea for that matter with ArA won't have too much of an effect.
I personally like to optimize what I can, so I'd advise dosing 2 hours or so apart just to play it safe if u can. If not, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
btw, green tea should help with the absorption of the (-)epi in Folli (so u might wanna combine those).
Once you switch to Ep1C unleashed I wouldn't worry about absorption since the new delivery mechanism in Ep1C should enhance bioavailability by up to 6x more than standard (-)epi.
It may help a little bit to combine green tea with Follidrone. However, it is the phytoFUSE(TM) technology in EPIC Unleashed that is responsible for the enhanced absorption. It is not enough to just take green tea and -epi together, the delivery system is key.(-)epi is anti inflammatory as well just to give u a heads up.
It is generally thought that dosing (-)epi, or green tea for that matter with ArA won't have too much of an effect.
I personally like to optimize what I can, so I'd advise dosing 2 hours or so apart just to play it safe if u can. If not, I wouldn't worry about it too much.
btw, green tea should help with the absorption of the (-)epi in Folli (so u might wanna combine those).
Once you switch to Ep1C unleashed I wouldn't worry about absorption since the new delivery mechanism in Ep1C should enhance bioavailability by up to 6x more than standard (-)epi.
Good call GNO.It may help a little bit to combine green tea with Follidrone. However, it is the phytoFUSE(TM) technology in EPIC Unleashed that is responsible for the enhanced absorption. It is not enough to just take green tea and -epi together, the delivery system is key.
If you are concerned with ArA and EP1C conflicting, I suggest the following...
Dose ARA pre-workout as usual and apply 1 pump EP1C TD post workout (after showering) or 3-4 hours after ARA dose and a 2nd pump 4-6 hours away.
Perfectly fine. They stack quite well actually, and ep1c can help maintain muscle mass & help with energy loss if on a cut. I'd try to find a thermogenic (non stim) + a stim for a killer combo with ep1c.Is ep1c unleashed ok to take with a fat burner? If it is any recommendations? Thanks
Sounds good katch22.Thanks for the reply!! I have used alphamine before and had quite good results so will use that again :£
I've been using it with shift. Loving it. mr.cooper69Is ep1c unleashed ok to take with a fat burner? If it is any recommendations? Thanks
Unleashed, norco, lipomorph = recomp/fat loss central. Alphamine would work great as well (I just had more appetite suppression with norco) I ran this stack with a regular Epi product and loved it. It will only be better with unleashed.Is ep1c unleashed ok to take with a fat burner? If it is any recommendations? Thanks
EP1C Unleashed is perfectly fine to start the first day of PCT. It'll be a nice addition to help you with endurance and maintaining strength. One of my favorites for sure.Im gonne use Unleashed after my epi / tr3st cycle, is it oke to start with it @ the first day of pct? So together with nolva and sup3r pct?
Im doing nolva 20/20/10/10 and sup3r pct 4/4/3/3/2/1 and I wanne do Unleashed 4 or 8 weeks 2 caps ed besides that. And for how long can I continue Unleashed? 8 weeks max or?
Anytime man.Thnx for the fast reply!
So you can run it indefinitely? Even better!! My wallet is probably not gonne like but as long as I will no prob
If you go to our site you can subscribe to receive one bottle a month at a 35% discount using my code cam35 or you can pick up one to try and use cam30 for 30% off a single bottleThnx for the fast reply!
So you can run it indefinitely? Even better!! My wallet is probably not gonne like but as long as I will no prob
We almost need a way to bookmark individual posts with as many deals come out on the forum.If you go to our site you can subscribe to receive one bottle a month at a 35% discount using my code cam35 or you can pick up one to try and use cam30 for 30% off a single bottle
Personally I have been on it since it came out in May and I've loved it so much I haven't wanted to stop.. I plan on taking it at least through the fall
That would be a great idea I think for Admin to look into.. I usually just screen shot posts on my phone that I want to be able to find againWe almost need a way to bookmark individual posts with as many deals come out on the forum.
Yes and Yes. EP1C and DermaStr3ngth stack VERY well together.I have dermastrength and td epi, im going to run phat. Can i use both trandsermals? Also, i workout late afternoon, so can i do my pumps split after morning shower and post workout?
I would leave it on as long as you can, but I'd say at least 3 hours minimum. Longer is likely always better.How long after i apply until i can shower
8 hours would be optimal.I would leave it on as long as you can, but I'd say about 3 hours and you should be good to clean up. That is more than ample time.
Also, a few tips:
- Use latex gloves to apply (makes sure you don't waste any on your hands).
- After a shower is BEST because your pores are open (hot shower is best)
- Be sure to scrub the part of your body you wish to apply the TD to (this gets rid of any dead skin, etc for better absorbtion)
- I forgot to mention that the neck is also a good place to use TDs...side of your abdomen might suffice as well.
- Leave your shirt or clothing off of the area of application for a bit so it can dry up a tad an not rub off on the clothes (don't want to waste any)
Please let me know if you have any more questions or need any help. We're here to help you get those #gainz
No issues with that.I am kinda addicted to pwo shakes before workout, is it to much to keep drinking this and take 2 caps Unleashed besides that as pwo? Im starting pct today. Nolva, Sup3r PCT and Unleashed.
EP1C EU & Dermastr3ngth sounds nice! You do not necessarily need anything else, but no issues with using a pre-wo or intra with that stack.Im going to run epi unleashed dermastrength. Is there some thing else worth running? Looking at cannibal ferox also as a preworkout. I take intra md and just plain creatine now.
Tbh, I don't feel like 30 min is enough wait time before you go sweating like crazy.Hello,
I just bought 2 bottles of Epic Unleashed TD versions and I'm wondering about how I should apply it...
Everyday, I always take a hot morning shower upon waking, followed by a fasted morning run (consistent 6-7minute miles for 20-30mins depending on my day... intense so I will sweat a lot), then I will take a very short shower (literally like 30 seconds or less) to rinse off the sweat... I am planning to apply Epic after my hot morning shower upon waking, wait 30minutes then I'll go for my run. I'm just worried about the quick cold shower afterwards may hamper the TD effects of Epic... so my concern is, will it or am I fine?
When running I feel like he's going to have his clothing rubbing some of that off. Then there is the cold shower/rinse (even though short) taking place 1hr after application.As far as what I've read I believe that 30 minutes is plenty of time before sweating, and also that sweating helps absorption by opening the pores..
I'm not sure how the running would effect it, that is just what I've read as it pertains to lifting so it could be completely different. I agree about the cold shower. Maybe he could just wipe off with a clean wet towel instead and avoid the area of application? Or just apply after the second shower. The TD version won't have as much of an effect pre workout as the oral I wouldn't think, so there may be no real reason for him to apply it before his run.When running I feel like he's going to have his clothing rubbing some of that off. Then there is the cold shower/rinse (even though short) taking place 1hr after application.
You are correct. The TD will keep a slow and steady blood plasma level of (-)epi vs a big spike and fairly quick drop off with the oral version. So time of application is not as relevant as is keeping it on as long as possible before washing off.I'm not sure how the running would effect it, that is just what I've read as it pertains to lifting so it could be completely different. I agree about the cold shower. Maybe he could just wipe off with a clean wet towel instead and avoid the area of application? Or just apply after the second shower. The TD version won't have as much of an effect pre workout as the oral I wouldn't think, so there may be no real reason for him to apply it before his run.
Happy to hear you are enjoying it!I have been using it for over a month, damn the pumps are sick. I follow the dosing as per instructions, 2 pre and 1 normal day. On the pre, damn. Really a solid product by Olympus labs.
This combo is unreal man. Best workouts of my life.I just ordered Conquered unleashed stim free direct from Olympus labs site. I cant wait to stack it with epic unleashed, if as a standalone product the pump is that good, imagine with conquered unleashed............... Damn i cant wait
Thanks for the support, but did you use GNO30 to save 30%?:spam:I just ordered Conquered unleashed stim free direct from Olympus labs site. I cant wait to stack it with epic unleashed, if as a standalone product the pump is that good, imagine with conquered unleashed............... Damn i cant wait