My blood pressure

[Jolly]

I got 129/80 average after 3 measurements. Should I be worried if im about to start me first ever PH cycle? Both of my parents are taking g high blood pressure medicine. My dad had a stroke 12 years ago.

 

[hamdysayed]

I got 129/80 average after 3 measurements. Should I be worried if im about to start me first ever PH cycle? Both of my parents are taking g high blood pressure medicine. My dad had a stroke 12 years ago.

what u gonna run and whats ur stats

 

[Jolly]

what u gonna run and whats ur stats

1-andro 330mg
4-andr0 330mg
ar1micare pro
sup3r pct
novadex

creatine
multi
fish oil
vit D
flexatril
glucosamine

Gonna be an 8 weeks cycle. I'm 25 yrs old, 5'7" tall, and I weigh 135 lbs.

 

[DTA]

What's your diet like?

 

[PeteRyde]

Also blood pressure varies throughout the day even if you're not doing anything. The pressure cycle tends to be person specific. You should work out if that is your daily high, middle or low reading so you can compare it during your cycle.

 

[Jolly]

What's your diet like?

I work 4 days out of the week so I always eat out on those days. Here is my typical schedule:
12:00 PM - Work
2:00 PM - Break (I always eat at McDonalds for 15 minutes during break. I used to eat a small cheeseburger with small fries and cup of water. Lately I've been eating just McChicken sandwich with no mayo.)
4:00 PM - Lunch (I would eat either at Chipotle, Panda Express, Rubio's, Subway, and The Habit since they are walking distance from my work place)
7:00 PM Break ( I tend to drink a generic energy drink that is equivalent to Monster. I've been trying to stop so lately I just drink a small black coffee at McDonalds)
9:00 PM I go home and make myself dinner. Sometimes I eat ground beef, chicken, or ground turkey with pasta, rice, yams, or sweet potatoes. I do season them with garlic salt, sea salt, or other flavored seasonings.)

On days when I don't work I try to not eat out (sometimes I do). I would eat oatmeal, almonds, eggs, yams, fish, chicken, ground beef, ground turkey, greek yogurt, milk, cereal, peanut butter, protein powder, pasta, homemade burgers, and rice. I do snack on some junks here and there when my sister brings them home like chips, cookies, etc. I don't do cardio, but I do plan on doing light cardio once a week some time in the near future. My sleep can average anywhere between 6-8 hours depending on the day.

EDIT: I check myfitnesspal and I notice my daily sodium ranges anywhere between 2000mg to 3500mg. Some cases 4000mg but that's once every 1 or 2 weeks.

 

[Jolly]

Also blood pressure varies throughout the day even if you're not doing anything. The pressure cycle tends to be person specific. You should work out if that is your daily high, middle or low reading so you can compare it during your cycle.

You brought up a really good point. I will measure my BP 3 times daily until I start cycle so I have a good baseline of where it should normally be at during different times of the day.

 

[hamdysayed]

I work 4 days out of the week so I always eat out on those days. Here is my typical schedule:
12:00 PM - Work
2:00 PM - Break (I always eat at McDonalds for 15 minutes during break. I used to eat a small cheeseburger with small fries and cup of water. Lately I've been eating just McChicken sandwich with no mayo.)
4:00 PM - Lunch (I would eat either at Chipotle, Panda Express, Rubio's, Subway, and The Habit since they are walking distance from my work place)
7:00 PM Break ( I tend to drink a generic energy drink that is equivalent to Monster. I've been trying to stop so lately I just drink a small black coffee at McDonalds)
9:00 PM I go home and make myself dinner. Sometimes I eat ground beef, chicken, or ground turkey with pasta, rice, yams, or sweet potatoes. I do season them with garlic salt, sea salt, or other flavored seasonings.)

On days when I don't work I try to not eat out (sometimes I do). I would eat oatmeal, almonds, eggs, yams, fish, chicken, ground beef, ground turkey, greek yogurt, milk, cereal, peanut butter, protein powder, pasta, homemade burgers, and rice. I do snack on some junks here and there when my sister brings them home like chips, cookies, etc. I don't do cardio, but I do plan on doing light cardio once a week some time in the near future. My sleep can average anywhere between 6-8 hours depending on the day.

EDIT: I check myfitnesspal and I notice my daily sodium ranges anywhere between 2000mg to 3500mg. Some cases 4000mg but that's once every 1 or 2 weeks.

u have to limit ur salt big time , and most likely cut off mcdonalds,just watch ur diet and bp shouldnt be an issue

 

[vujade]

you can also take support supps to help lower pressure...

Celery Seed Extract
Hawthorne Berry
CO Q10
Agmatine
Potassium Nitrate

 

[uprightrows]

I've had to deal with numerous BP issues when cycling. Your reading of 130/80 isn't great but it isn't atrocious either. That being said, you really need to control your sodium intake. Eating two fast food/carry out meals a day when you are working probably puts you way above your sodium requirements especially if you are adding salt to your prepared meals. If you are concerned about BP when cycling start doing steady state cardio (or even better HIIT if you can handle it) for a few weeks before hand (keep your heart rate elevated for 15-25 mins), and limit the sodium, this should improve your BP immensely. If it is still an issue given your family history, talk to your doc and if he feels its appropriate have him get you a script for a beta-blocker while you're on cycle, you will have to taper up and taper off (if you want to go off) with this, and only resort to this if dietary and life style changes don't work. Also kind of random, but stop using sea salt, use iodized table salt if you need seasoning, iodine will help a lot with thyroid function and sea salt has virtually none.

 

[vujade]

For Salt, I actually like to use Morton's lite salt. which is 50% sodium chloride and 50% potassium chloride.

It cuts down on the amount of sodium intake, plus give you extra potassium, which is something a lot
bodybuilders don't get enough of because of their hi-protein diets.

 

[DTA]

If you get your diet in check you will probably be fine. Stay away from McDonald's for a while

 

[gagandugan]

Those numbers aren't horrible, but I'd make sure that the diet is in check. Avoid sodium. Also, take this from someone who used to weigh 130 @ 5-6 1/2 (170cm) long time ago: just start eating right, do full body workouts focusing on big compound exercises, get enough protein in your diet, start using creatine, multivitamin and fish oil - and you don't need any other supplements. No prohormones, no support, nothing at all. You should be able to get from 130 to 160 like I did without too much trouble. Then see if the time is right to start using DHEA based compounds.

 

[Dma378]

Just speaking on the diet, you need to ask yourself what kind of commitment you want to make to this lifestyle. I say before you start using anything you need to figure out how to feed yourself like a bodybuilder before you start hopping on a cycle. Just because you feel like you need to eat whatever because your build is small is going about it wrong. Learn how to grocery shop, prepare your meals and feed yourself properly. You don't even have that down. Cycling isn't the answer.

Not being a dik, just my honest opinion.

 

[Jolly]

Just speaking on the diet, you need to ask yourself what kind of commitment you want to make to this lifestyle. I say before you start using anything you need to figure out how to feed yourself like a bodybuilder before you start hopping on a cycle. Just because you feel like you need to eat whatever because your build is small is going about it wrong. Learn how to grocery shop, prepare your meals and feed yourself properly. You don't even have that down. Cycling isn't the answer.

Not being a dik, just my honest opinion.

Nah you no dik my man! You right I need to make a change big time in my diet. Maybe I'm not ready for PH just yet. I decided to put my anabolic game plan on hold until I fix my sh!tty diet. Thousand thanks my man!

u have to limit ur salt big time , and most likely cut off mcdonalds,just watch ur diet and bp shouldnt be an issue

You right. Im gonna start tracking my salt from now on.

you can also take support supps to help lower pressure...

Celery Seed Extract
Hawthorne Berry
CO Q10
Agmatine
Potassium Nitrate

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll def look into those products!

I've had to deal with numerous BP issues when cycling. Your reading of 130/80 isn't great but it isn't atrocious either. That being said, you really need to control your sodium intake. Eating two fast food/carry out meals a day when you are working probably puts you way above your sodium requirements especially if you are adding salt to your prepared meals. If you are concerned about BP when cycling start doing steady state cardio (or even better HIIT if you can handle it) for a few weeks before hand (keep your heart rate elevated for 15-25 mins), and limit the sodium, this should improve your BP immensely. If it is still an issue given your family history, talk to your doc and if he feels its appropriate have him get you a script for a beta-blocker while you're on cycle, you will have to taper up and taper off (if you want to go off) with this, and only resort to this if dietary and life style changes don't work. Also kind of random, but stop using sea salt, use iodized table salt if you need seasoning, iodine will help a lot with thyroid function and sea salt has virtually none.

You right my man! I'll try a low sodium diet for a month and see if my average bp decreases.

For Salt, I actually like to use Morton's lite salt. which is 50% sodium chloride and 50% potassium chloride.

It cuts down on the amount of sodium intake, plus give you extra potassium, which is something a lot
bodybuilders don't get enough of because of their hi-protein diets.

Thanks I threw away my sea salt. Will look into the iodized one.

If you get your diet in check you will probably be fine. Stay away from McDonald's for a while

No more McDonalds for me. Thanks!

Those numbers aren't horrible, but I'd make sure that the diet is in check. Avoid sodium. Also, take this from someone who used to weigh 130 @ 5-6 1/2 (170cm) long time ago: just start eating right, do full body workouts focusing on big compound exercises, get enough protein in your diet, start using creatine, multivitamin and fish oil - and you don't need any other supplements. No prohormones, no support, nothing at all. You should be able to get from 130 to 160 like I did without too much trouble. Then see if the time is right to start using DHEA based compounds.

Hmm...you got a good point. I decided to post pone my first ever PH cycle to another time. I'll def need to get my diet in check first. Thanks !

 

[hamdysayed]

wise move , just keep learning

 

[Dma378]

You'll be thankful later that you have the basics figured out first before starting a cycle of any kind.

And even the best indulge in a little fast food every now and then, but if it's the biggest part of your diet, you've got to make the change.

Not only will your BP likely improve, but I bet you feel better overall too. Making that cycle much more enjoyable when it does come.

 

[ericos_bob]

As stated above take the necesarry on cycle support and drop the salt and stimulants and you should be fine. I don't buy into blood pressure readings too much unless they're consistently high at rest. Is 130/80 your resting blood pressure as in first thing in the morning before getting up? My blood pressure ranges from 110/70 up to 190 in the one day. Obviously high intensity training cause the spike to 190. This is still in the normal range during intense exercise although I could see some sod on a prohormone cycle freaking out taking their BP reading after a workout. I noticed you mentioned your parents are on BP meds. My brother inlaw's parents are also on meds and he was concerned he had high BP. Took his BP on a regular basis and always returned a high reading. He was pretty worried. Turns out he got nervous when taking readings and his BP is fine.

 

[fueledpassion]

Can I just recommend you ordering an ACE-II inhibitor like Enalapril or Lisinipril from an Indian pharmacy? You could take that with garlic extract and nattokinase and have a really healthy heart stack while on the cycle.

Trimetazidine would be a finishing touch on keeping the heart healthy. All of these are just as easily accessed as research chems.

 

[Best]

I ran almost the same first cycle when I was 135. Your fine my BP is close to yours as well. Limit your sodium from now on and you will be fine I ended my cycle at 154 eat healthy and like a machine

 

[yates84]

Can I just recommend you ordering an ACE-II inhibitor like Enalapril or Lisinipril from an Indian pharmacy? You could take that with garlic extract and nattokinase and have a really healthy heart stack while on the cycle.

Trimetazidine would be a finishing touch on keeping the heart healthy. All of these are just as easily accessed as research chems.

I never cycle without lisinopril on hand, works wonders for me. I also run cialis on cycle for bp control, 20mg ED works great.

 

[uprightrows]

Can I just recommend you ordering an ACE-II inhibitor like Enalapril or Lisinipril from an Indian pharmacy? You could take that with garlic extract and nattokinase and have a really healthy heart stack while on the cycle.

Trimetazidine would be a finishing touch on keeping the heart healthy. All of these are just as easily accessed as research chems.

Lisinopril is very effective at lowering BP, I used to take it all the time. Unfortunately it can really mess with your free T levels.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9877521

It's not a deal huge on cycle if you're getting exogenous test. However based on bloods I've had while using ACE inhibitors, it has lowered my free T on cycles where my total was >3000 and my free wasn't where it should be, also my SHBG was elevated beyond what it normally is for that cycle (but I wasn't using mast so there's that). That's why I use beta blockers now, they come with there own set of issues, but don't effect hormone levels. Good call on the nattokinase though

 

[fueledpassion]

Lisinopril is very effective at lowering BP, I used to take it all the time. Unfortunately it can really mess with your free T levels.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9877521

It's not a deal huge on cycle if you're getting exogenous test. However based on bloods I've had while using ACE inhibitors, it has lowered my free T on cycles where my total was >3000 and my free wasn't where it should be, also my SHBG was elevated beyond what it normally is for that cycle (but I wasn't using mast so there's that). That's why I use beta blockers now, they come with there own set of issues, but don't effect hormone levels. Good call on the nattokinase though

I did not know this! Thanks!

I also use Calcium channel blockers as well - I find those work even better tbh.

 

[Hyde]

I did not know this! Thanks!

I also use Calcium channel blockers as well - I find those work even better tbh.

Clear PMs please!

 

[fueledpassion]

Cleared

 

[123abcabcabc]

Blood pressure is a silent killer.

 

[criticalbench]

Limiting salt doesn't do much for the average American.

-potassium nitrate
-l-Theanine
-terminalia Arjuna

$30 a month for all that, each with a very unique mechanism of action for cardio protective purposes.

 

[criticalbench]

Limiting salt or increasing fluid intake wouldn't hurt though.