Ever since my test got low, I have been unable to sleep. Has this happened to anyone else? Did it improve when your levels got higher again? I am hoping so...
Phenibut is the only OTC that works for me too. The problem is, you can't take it every day.I don't sleep very well and my test is around 300 when it should be around the 600-900 range. The worse I sleep, the more my test falls too. Snowball effect. Lack of sleep really messes with your hormones. ZMA doesn't help, neither does melatonin or any other sleep-aid I've tried except neurobalance (phenibut).
Ask you MD for a script for trazadone. Its an excellent sleep aid and may really boost nocturnal erections. Nocturnal erections maintain the *plumbing* in good working order.Phenibut is the only OTC that works for me too. The problem is, you can't take it every day.
I wonder what it is about low test that affects sleep?
Funny you mention this, I do have a script for low dose trazodone. Only 25mg gives me a great night's sleep. I am just scared to take "head meds" every night due to risk of tolerance and dependency. So I try to rotate it with other things (like Phenibut), but nothing works as well.Ask you MD for a script for trazadone. Its an excellent sleep aid and may really boost nocturnal erections. Nocturnal erections maintain the *plumbing* in good working order.
Ativan is addicting, and probably not a good idea to mix w/ phenibut.Atavan (lorazepam) works on the gaba receptor, so I wonder if it would have some synergy with phenibut so that you can keep the doses low and avoid tolerance. Then again, might be a bad idea to take both together.
I might ask my doc about trazodone.
Do you have insomnia? Is it sedating?RE: low test
I always sleep better when I take nettle root before bed.
Seems to be a vicious cycle. I don't think I have apnea, never noticed any breathing issues. I've had two saliva tests that indicated high cortisol at night. I suspect this plays a role in insomnia, even though anti-cortisol supplements don't seem to be very effective. High cortisol can even lower testosterone I've heard, but not sure why.Maybe my insomnia is causing low test for me, or maybe low test is causing insomnia.
Take 5mg Cortef 3:30PM see if that helps.This may sound ridiculous to most people, but try to make it a habit of getting into bed around 9-10 PM if you don't already do so. Some doctors say that deep sleep between 10-2AM is crucial for hormones in the body. Ever go to bed at 10 or 11 and wake up 30 minutes later feeling refreshed as if you've slept for hours? Whenever this happens I feel really pumped the next day.
I had years of insomnia, felt like ****, and did not have morning erections. I usually get tired around 4-6PM and then I'm kinda wired towards evening time.
A few years back, I started taking fish oil + liquid Aminos at night before bed. I'd say it took a month or so to condition myself to sleep but when it finally happened it was great. Soon after, I was really horny and I guess my test levels have had to increase. Also, natural sleep w/o meds is the best. I've had prescriptions for Ambien, Trazadone(which gave me the worst headaches), Ativan, and some other stuff but all have their drawbacks.
Yeah, I do this but if I don't take some kind of sedative I'll lay awake until 3-4AM, sometimes all night.This may sound ridiculous to most people, but try to make it a habit of getting into bed around 9-10 PM if you don't already do so. Some doctors say that deep sleep between 10-2AM is crucial for hormones in the body.
Yeah, I do this but if I don't take some kind of sedative I'll lay awake until 3-4AM, sometimes all night.
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I hear you bro, and trying to do it naturally is discouraging because it could take a long while before you get adjusted. I still stay up until around 3-4AM when my schedule gets out of wack.
Here are a few things that I've learned:
1. Stress sucks! Either from work, financials, relationships, or personal things. Even if it is something minor it may linger in your subconcious thus preventing you from relaxing. And they all add up. Knowing whats bugging you (and this could be low test. as well) and solving it in your head is much different than talking to a friend about it. Talk it out, you'll feel better -- Even if its the stupidest thing in the world...you never know. Then, you may realize there's something else bothering you that you weren't aware of,...get the picture?
2. Someone like you probable needs a consistent schedule. Obviously, you are capable of sleeping because you fall asleep around 3-4AM. If you get in the habit of eating at the same time, doing something relaxing at the same time, and literally getting into bed at the same time, you'll have a better chance of sleeping. Especially if you think about the great sleep you're about to have, really!
I'm not a doctor but I do know what worked for me. I had problems sleeping for 7-8 years, saw many doctors, tried pills, and at the end I still wasn't happy. My sleep problem was much more simple than it seemed.
its great when you get sleep like that. Unfortunately most of that stuff doesn't allow you to go through the natural sleep cycle as intended for the body. Ex. If all you do is dream all night you could be pretty exhausted in the morning.Last night I took about 4 grams of it and didn't wake up once..was nice for once, but I question the quality of the sleep. I definately had pretty good dreams though.
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